Mar 6, 2016, 10:33 pm
Last edit by: stephem
Fare Rules:
Fare basis code AA J PEN-YVR
Fare basis code AA J PEN-YVR
Code:
FLIGHT APPLICATION
BETWEEN CANADA AND AREA 3
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 5100 THROUGH 5249.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 6075 THROUGH 6124.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR BUT NOT ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 7950 THROUGH 7969.
ADVANCE RES/TICKETING UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
STANDBY NOT PERMITTED.
OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED.
NOTE -
TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
RESERVATIONS BOOKED 3 DAYS OR LESS PRIOR TO
DEPARTURE MUST BE TICKETED WITHIN 24 HOURS.
RESERVATIONS BOOKED 24 HOURS OR LESS PRIOR TO
DEPARTURE MUST BE TICKETED WITHIN 3 HOURS.
STOPOVERS
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
TRANSFERS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
PERMITTED COMBINATIONS FOR ONE WAY FARES
ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ADJACENT
LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA
THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
END-ON-END NOTE -
ADD-ONS PERMITTED
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY
RULE IN TARIFF
IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRPC - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRSAAS - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC
IPRSAPN - AREA 1-SOUTH WEST PACIFIC VIA PAC AND N.
AMERICA
OR RULE 7100/8005 IN TARIFF
PAMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC.
CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH
ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN RULE
7100/8005 IN TARIFF
ATMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRPC - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRSAAS - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC
IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
ATL
IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
ATL
IPRSAPN - AREA 1-SOUTH WEST PACIFIC VIA PAC AND N.
AMERICA
OR RULE 7100/8005 IN TARIFF
PAMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC.
SURCHARGES BETWEEN CANADA AND MALAYSIA
IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT.
OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED
TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ INFANTS.
2/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
3/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
4/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR US.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR AY.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR BA.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR IB.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR JL.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR QF.
THERE IS NO CHARGE PER FARE COMPONENT FOR TRANSPACIFIC
SECTORS.
NOTE -
YR FEE MAY APPLY
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
DEPARTURE FROM CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
ARRIVAL IN CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM
HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
AND - ORIGINATING MALAYSIA -
A SURCHARGE OF USD 134.00 PER FARE COMPONENT WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL FOR
TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS.
NOTE -
THIS SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER
CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
THIS SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING ON FREE TICKETS.
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
DEPARTURE FROM CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
ARRIVAL IN CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM
HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
SALES RESTRICTIONS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ARGENTINA.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
PENALTIES UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE -
FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED
RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS BETWEEN CANADA AND AREA 3
ORIGINATING AREA 3 -
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
NOTE -
UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL
ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP
OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE.
FOR J- TYPE FARES
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR
OLDER
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER
OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER.
NOTE -
WHEN TRAVEL INCLUDES BOTH DOMESTIC AND
INTERNATIONAL SERVICE AND DIFFERENT
INFANT FARES APPLY - THE FARE NEED NOT
BE MORE THAN THE SUM OF THE APPLICABLE
FARES FOR THE DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL
PORTIONS.
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
NOTE -
UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL
ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP
OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE.
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE -
DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER
AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS.
AGENT DISCOUNTS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE -
DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER
AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS.
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA. SALE IS RESTRICTED TO
SPECIFIC AGENTS.
FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY AA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD BY TRAVEL
AGENTS.
PASSENGER OCCUPYING TWO SEATS. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - SEAT.
NOTE -
APPLICATION---
FARES APPLY TO A PASSENGER PERMITTED THE
EXCLUSIVE USE OF TWO ADJACENT SEATS.
SENIOR CITIZEN 65 OR OLDER. ID REQUIRED - NO DISCOUNT.
NOTE -
RULE 1810 - SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY
[FARE GONE] J PEN-YVR $1758CDN o/w One World and friends. F option available.
Mar 10, 2016, 10:35 pm
#123
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only PEN-HKG is on Dragonair flight numbers though, HKG-LAX-YVR is AA flight number & J... at least for the flights I've checked - so 1.5x EQM for PEN-HKG (IF it counts at all) and 3x EQM HKG-LAX-YVR...? HKG-LAX-YVR itself is in that case 25k EQM, ignoring the PEN-HKG segment completely.
Mar 10, 2016, 10:49 pm
#124
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wow, i searched for eqm using the search function and only 3 posts came up but not those.
....is flyertalk's search-function distinguishing between "eqm" and "EQM"?
anyway, glad it's been cleared, i'll excuse myself.
that's so damn tempting, now to convince the GF I want to go to Malaysia for Canada Day...
....is flyertalk's search-function distinguishing between "eqm" and "EQM"?
anyway, glad it's been cleared, i'll excuse myself.
that's so damn tempting, now to convince the GF I want to go to Malaysia for Canada Day...
Mar 11, 2016, 9:07 am
#125
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 356
wow, i searched for eqm using the search function and only 3 posts came up but not those.
....is flyertalk's search-function distinguishing between "eqm" and "EQM"?
anyway, glad it's been cleared, i'll excuse myself.
that's so damn tempting, now to convince the GF I want to go to Malaysia for Canada Day...
....is flyertalk's search-function distinguishing between "eqm" and "EQM"?
anyway, glad it's been cleared, i'll excuse myself.
that's so damn tempting, now to convince the GF I want to go to Malaysia for Canada Day...
Mar 11, 2016, 9:55 am
#126
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
Programs: Lots of faux metal
Posts: 6,425
wow, i searched for eqm using the search function and only 3 posts came up but not those.
....is flyertalk's search-function distinguishing between "eqm" and "EQM"?
anyway, glad it's been cleared, i'll excuse myself.
that's so damn tempting, now to convince the GF I want to go to Malaysia for Canada Day...
....is flyertalk's search-function distinguishing between "eqm" and "EQM"?
anyway, glad it's been cleared, i'll excuse myself.
that's so damn tempting, now to convince the GF I want to go to Malaysia for Canada Day...
What better way to celebrate your country than by leaving for a few days?
Or just buy it and surprise her. That used to work for me...before we had kids.
Mar 11, 2016, 10:23 am
#127
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Mar 11, 2016, 1:00 pm
#131
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yyz-lhr-hel-sin Finnair business class
pen-kul-nrt-ord-yyz biz + JAL F on nrt-ord segment.
about 30k miles.
flight from sin-pen stopover for a day in kul, plus hotel and meals, it costs another $1000CAD.
Mar 11, 2016, 1:55 pm
#132
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You're paying 3k CAD for the one-way YYZ-SIN? Meh. I'd use a one-way award, makes much more sense than overpaying for a oneway. And SIN-KUL-PEN for 1k is definitely too much - why not just route an award YYZ-SIN//-KUL and see if you can get from KUL to PEN somehow?
Mar 11, 2016, 2:04 pm
#133
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I get the impression if you're willing to LCC it, short flights w/in Asia like SIN-PEN shouldn't cost you more than US$100-200 tops, plus maybe a few transfers... definitely nowhere near C$1K.
Mar 11, 2016, 2:15 pm
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I mean I look at it this way:
1) 2x one-ways are generally more expensive than a RT
2) this ow is particularly cheap at < 1/2 of a RT in J (if you take eg ST's 3500 canada-asia RT's)
3) so paying 3k for the reverse ow to take advantage of this ow deal defeats the purpose as you're paying more in the end for two one-ways than you wouldve paid for just paying for a RT outright.
4) so this deal is worth it if you can find either a cheap oneway the other direction or if not, book an award flight oneway.
1) 2x one-ways are generally more expensive than a RT
2) this ow is particularly cheap at < 1/2 of a RT in J (if you take eg ST's 3500 canada-asia RT's)
3) so paying 3k for the reverse ow to take advantage of this ow deal defeats the purpose as you're paying more in the end for two one-ways than you wouldve paid for just paying for a RT outright.
4) so this deal is worth it if you can find either a cheap oneway the other direction or if not, book an award flight oneway.