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Old Mar 6, 2016, 10:33 pm
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Fare Rules:
Fare basis code AA J PEN-YVR
Code:
FLIGHT APPLICATION	
BETWEEN CANADA AND AREA 3   
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 5100 THROUGH 5249.
  AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 6075 THROUGH 6124.
  AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR BUT NOT ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 7950 THROUGH 7969.

ADVANCE RES/TICKETING	UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
  STANDBY NOT PERMITTED.
  OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED.
         NOTE -
          TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          RESERVATIONS BOOKED 3 DAYS OR LESS PRIOR TO
          DEPARTURE MUST BE TICKETED WITHIN 24 HOURS.
          RESERVATIONS BOOKED 24 HOURS OR LESS PRIOR TO
          DEPARTURE MUST BE TICKETED WITHIN 3 HOURS.

STOPOVERS 
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED   NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.

TRANSFERS	UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
  UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT
    FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

PERMITTED COMBINATIONS	FOR ONE WAY FARES
   ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
  END-ON-END
    END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ADJACENT
    LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA
    THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
     END-ON-END NOTE -
       ADD-ONS PERMITTED
  OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
    -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS.
   PROVIDED -
     COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY
      RULE IN TARIFF
      IPRP    - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
      IPRPC   - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
      IPRSAAS - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC
      IPRSAPN - AREA 1-SOUTH WEST PACIFIC VIA PAC AND N.
                AMERICA
      OR RULE 7100/8005 IN TARIFF
      PAMAAR  - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC.

  CIRCLE TRIPS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH
    ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF
    -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS.
   PROVIDED -
     COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN RULE
      7100/8005 IN TARIFF
      ATMAAR  - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
      OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
      IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
      IPRP    - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
      IPRPC   - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
      IPRSAAS - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATL
      IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATL
      IPRSAPN - AREA 1-SOUTH WEST PACIFIC VIA PAC AND N.
                AMERICA
      OR RULE 7100/8005 IN TARIFF
      PAMAAR  - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC.

SURCHARGES	BETWEEN CANADA AND MALAYSIA
  IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT.
  OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
  OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
  OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
    A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED
    TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM HKG AIRPORT.
         NOTE -
          THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
            1/ INFANTS.
            2/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
            3/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
               DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
            4/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR US.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR AY.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR BA.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR IB.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR JL.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR QF.
    THERE IS NO CHARGE PER FARE COMPONENT FOR TRANSPACIFIC
    SECTORS.
         NOTE -
          YR FEE MAY APPLY
    AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
          COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
          DEPARTURE FROM CANADA.
         NOTE -
          THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
          AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
    AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
          COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
          ARRIVAL IN CANADA.
         NOTE -
          THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
          AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
    AND - A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM
          HKG AIRPORT.
         NOTE -
          THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
            1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
            2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
               DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
            3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
    AND - ORIGINATING MALAYSIA -
      A SURCHARGE OF USD 134.00 PER FARE COMPONENT WILL BE
      ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL FOR
      TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS.
         NOTE -
          THIS SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER
          CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
          THIS SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO PASSENGERS
          TRAVELLING ON FREE TICKETS.
    AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
          COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
          DEPARTURE FROM CANADA.
         NOTE -
          THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
          AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
    AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
          COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
          ARRIVAL IN CANADA.
         NOTE -
          THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
          AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
    AND - A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM
          HKG AIRPORT.
         NOTE -
          THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
            1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
            2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
               DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
            3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.

SALES RESTRICTIONS	UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
  TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ARGENTINA.
  TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.

PENALTIES	UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
         NOTE -
          FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
          CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
          ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED
          RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.

CHILDREN DISCOUNTS	BETWEEN CANADA AND AREA 3
  ORIGINATING AREA 3 -
    ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
          TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
    OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF
           THE FARE.
               TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
    OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
           OF THE FARE.
               TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN
    OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
           THE FARE.
         NOTE -
          UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL
          ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP
          OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE.

FOR J- TYPE FARES
  ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
        TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
    MUST BE ACCOMPANIED IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR
      OLDER
  OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
         THE FARE.
             TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
         MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
           COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER
  OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
         OF THE FARE.
             TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
         MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
           COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER.
         NOTE -
          WHEN TRAVEL INCLUDES BOTH DOMESTIC AND
          INTERNATIONAL SERVICE AND DIFFERENT
          INFANT FARES APPLY - THE FARE NEED NOT
          BE MORE THAN THE SUM OF THE APPLICABLE
          FARES FOR THE DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL
          PORTIONS.
  OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
         FARE.
         NOTE -
          UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL
          ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP
          OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE.

TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS	UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
         NOTE -
          DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
          AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
          THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER
          AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS.

AGENT DISCOUNTS	UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
         NOTE -
          DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
          AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
          THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER
          AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS.

ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS	UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA. SALE IS RESTRICTED TO
  SPECIFIC AGENTS.
  FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY AA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD BY TRAVEL
  AGENTS.
  PASSENGER OCCUPYING TWO SEATS. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100
    PERCENT OF THE FARE.
        TICKET DESIGNATOR - SEAT.
         NOTE -
          APPLICATION---
          FARES APPLY TO A PASSENGER PERMITTED THE
          EXCLUSIVE USE OF TWO ADJACENT SEATS.
  SENIOR CITIZEN 65 OR OLDER. ID REQUIRED - NO DISCOUNT.
         NOTE -
          RULE 1810 - SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
You're paying 3k CAD for the one-way YYZ-SIN? Meh. I'd use a one-way award, makes much more sense than overpaying for a oneway. And SIN-KUL-PEN for 1k is definitely too much - why not just route an award YYZ-SIN//-KUL and see if you can get from KUL to PEN somehow?
Finnair yyz-lhr-hel-sin is around CAD$2100.
F option for pen-yyz is CAD$2900.

cost for hotel and one way from sin-pen and meal is around $1000
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 3:25 pm
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I think he means 2xxx OW on AY yyz-sin. Then OW is about 3k to yyz.

I would also try award to position. But 5k for Rt with one direction in F is not bad.
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 3:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
I mean I look at it this way:

1) 2x one-ways are generally more expensive than a RT
2) this ow is particularly cheap at < 1/2 of a RT in J (if you take eg ST's 3500 canada-asia RT's)
3) so paying 3k for the reverse ow to take advantage of this ow deal defeats the purpose as you're paying more in the end for two one-ways than you wouldve paid for just paying for a RT outright.
4) so this deal is worth it if you can find either a cheap oneway the other direction or if not, book an award flight oneway.
good suggestion, maybe I will look at one way award from yyz to pen
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by grandgourmand
I think he means 2xxx OW on AY yyz-sin. Then OW is about 3k to yyz.

I would also try award to position. But 5k for Rt with one direction in F is not bad.
agreed. that is what I was thinking.
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 3:33 pm
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delete. Repeated post
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 3:45 pm
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You can get SIN-PEN one way for $25-170, various carriers, multiple flights every day.
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 3:54 pm
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one way aeroplan award from yyz-pek-sin, one leg on AC, second leg on SIN, business class 77500 points $277CAD tax.

not bad deal to reposition
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by torontochinese
one way aeroplan award from yyz-pek-sin, one leg on AC, second leg on SIN, business class 77500 points $277CAD tax.

not bad deal to reposition
You can probably do last minute on EVA for same points and 50 bucks.
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by grandgourmand
You can probably do last minute on EVA for same points and 50 bucks.
thank you, I would love to try Eva too.
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 8:45 pm
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Originally Posted by nk15
You can get SIN-PEN one way for $25-170, various carriers, multiple flights every day.
AirAsia I see 4 daily flights SIN-PEN that each only cost 29USD... madness.
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 11:47 pm
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cant find any dates early 2016, dead?
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 11:53 pm
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Originally Posted by surftb15
cant find any dates early 2016, dead?
I see flights available literally every day until January 2017...
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Old Mar 12, 2016, 12:09 am
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
I see flights available literally every day until January 2017...
damn was looking jan 2017 i meant. Boo

edit: found it but only on that god awful JL 787 to YVR. Any other routing?
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Old Mar 12, 2016, 12:59 am
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Sorry for the rookie question but how would one go about playing with this as a return? Google flights only offers 5 options for different stops along the way.
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Old Mar 12, 2016, 8:30 am
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You can maximize the bonus miles through AA and book PEN-HKG-LAX-JFK-YYZ

as EXP this will earn you roughly 50k RDM. 100% base bonus, 50% CoS bonus, 12k bonus for HKG-LAX and 12k bonus for LAX-JFK
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