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Old Apr 2, 2011, 4:08 pm
  #466  
 
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Originally Posted by golfingboy
You can't, if you try it will balloon the fare up to around 175-250K THB...

I tried one way GRU-BKK and the fare was over 6K Brazilian Real...
Correct, there doesn't seem to be an equal fare published in the reverse direction. This is the fare mentioned I think:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Galileo: Fares/PSH/RU]
Code:
BKK  Bangkok Intl TH [VTBS]
GRU  Sao Paulo Guarulhos Intl SP BR [SBGR]
THU  21 Apr 2011 | OW | Business

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur   AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis | Travel Period
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  --------------------------
TK         BKK     SAO       486   USD                  360  DOWBB

The reverse direction looks like this:
[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Galileo: Fares/PSH/RU]
Code:
GRU  Sao Paulo Guarulhos Intl SP BR [SBGR]
BKK  Bangkok Intl TH [VTBS]
THU  21 Apr 2011 | OW | Business

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur   AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis | Travel Period
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  --------------------------
TK         SAO     BKK      3722   USD                       DSOW
YY         SAO     BKK      3859   USD                       COW
YY         SAO     BKK      4006   USD                       COW
YY         SAO     BKK      4305   USD                       C
TK         SAO     BKK      4980   USD                       CSOW
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 4:24 pm
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Ticket via Expedia, with HIP waived!

813.00 avg/person

10:50 am Depart Bangkok (BKK)
Arrive Istanbul (IST) 5:10 pm Tue 28-Jun
Duration: 10hr 20mn Turkish Airlines 65

10:45 am Depart Istanbul (IST)
Arrive Sao Paulo (GRU) 6:20 pm Fri 1-Jul
Duration: 13hr 35mn Turkish Airlines 15
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 4:42 pm
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If you are a Star Gold and the TK fare books into D, so you can use the Star Alliance upgrade reward to upgrade to First class...

However, 50K miles is a little steep IMO...
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by golfingboy
If you are a Star Gold and the TK fare books into D, so you can use the Star Alliance upgrade reward to upgrade to First class...

However, 50K miles is a little steep IMO...
First Class isn't available on the IST-GRU route. Whilst it is operated by B77W aircraft, it is TK's own aircraft opposed to Jet's.
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 4:55 pm
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Fare rules are pretty minimal. Any guesses on whether this might be changeable / refundable?
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 4:56 pm
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Just the 3 of us! Thanks!
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 5:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Martu
Fare rules are pretty minimal. Any guesses on whether this might be changeable / refundable?
I saw on the fare rule section that the ticket is very flexible and changes and cancellation is permitted. Since the fare rule did not mention any fees regarding this matter, I presume there are no fees for the changes/cancellation.

I am going to redeem some AA miles to do S.America 2 - Australia in C for 50K miles + few other one-ways to do double round the world journey (with Egypt Air fare ex. BKK to JFK RT @ 2500 all-in) All should get me close to 100K level with CO especially with out trips booked already.
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 5:04 pm
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Seems to be fully refundable AND allows a free stopover in Turkey...
so let's see start in Thailand for the Full Moon Party then fly to Istanbul, maybe use it as a gateway to Europe and then fly to South America and visit some friends in Sao Paulo, all for 813 USD and in Business Class, crediting at 200% to bmi for a CPM of 3.62
I'm salivating like crazy over this one...

From: Bangkok, Thailand (BKK-All Airports)
To: Sao Paulo, Brazil (SAO-All Airports)
Fare Basis Code: DOWBB

V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 DOWBB D O 486.00 T31MR - -/12M AT01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-BKK TO-SAO CXR-TK TVL-19JUN11 RULE-BKKD IPRSAA3/29
FARE BASIS-DOWBB SPECIAL FARE DIS-E VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-BR OW-BUSINESS CLASS RESTRICTED
THB 14715 2002 E23MAR11 D-INFINITY FC-DOWBB FN-4V
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 22MAR11/0435 EXPIRES INFINITY

50.RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS
NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
BUSINESS CLASS FARES
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
FROM BKK
TO BRAZIL.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES.
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ROUND-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
OTHER CONDITIONS
PASSENGER EXPENSES NOT PERMITTED
FREE BAGGAGE ALLOWANCE 30 KG.
01.ELIGIBILITY
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
02.DAY/TIME
NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
03.SEASONALITY
NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
04.FLIGHT APPLICATION
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY TK FLIGHT OPERATED BY TK.
05.ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING
NO ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
06.MINIMUM STAY
NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
07.MAXIMUM STAY
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
08.STOPOVERS
2 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN
EACH DIRECTION IN IST.
09.TRANSFERS
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
DIRECTION IN TURKEY.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED
ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
10.COMBINATIONS
SINGLE/DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS NOT
PERMITTED.
ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH TK DOMESTIC
FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. FARES MUST BE
SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA
THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
11.BLACKOUT DATES
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
12.SURCHARGES
NO SURCHARGE REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
13.ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
14.TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS
NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
15.SALES RESTRICTIONS
FOOTNOTE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 01APR11 AND ON/BEFORE
31MAR12.

FARE RULE
TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
UPGRADE TO ANY HIGHER FARE IS PERMITTED.
REBOOKING CHARGE ALSO APPLIES IF ANY
16.PENALTIES
CHANGES

ANY TIME
CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.

CANCELLATIONS

BEFORE DEPARTURE
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR CANCEL/REFUND.

AFTER DEPARTURE
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR CANCEL/REFUND.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
FOR CANCELLATIONS AFTER DEPARTURE THE REFUND GIVEN
WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND
THE APPLICAPLE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY FLOWN.
APPLICABLE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY FLOWN IS THE ONE
THAT SET AT THE SAME RBD WITH THE ORIGINAL FARE
PAID.
IF NO FARE EXISTS FOR THE FLOWN JOURNEY
ON THE SAME RBD WITH THE ORGINALFARE
ANY FARE SET ON A HIGHER RBD WILL BE ACCEPTED.

17.HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS
AREA 3/AREA 2 ARE EXCLUDED FROM THE HIGHER
INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE.
NOTE -
IGNORE THE MILEAGE SURCHARGE.
---
DMC SHALL NOT APPLY.
18.TICKET ENDORSEMENTS
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- NONEND/TK ONLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
19.CHILDREN DISCOUNTS
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-12 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 13 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 8-12 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
FOR TICKETING ON/AFTER 01FEB07
INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE
10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 13 OR OLDER.
20.TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS
NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.
21.AGENT DISCOUNTS
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.
22.ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS
DIS/DISABLED PERSON PSGR - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS SB.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
IN CASE OF DISABLED PASSENGER DISCOUNTS-COPIES
OF THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS SHALL BE ATTACHED TO
THE AUDIT COUPONS.
--------------
IF TRAVEL IS ON ANY TK FLIGHT TURKISH VETERAN ARE
60 PERCENT OF THE FARE
OR - SNN/RESTRICTED SENIOR CITIZEN W/MULTIPLE AGE REQ
PSGR 60 OR OLDER. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 85
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CD.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
IN CASE OF SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNTS - COPIES OF
THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS SHALL BE ATTCHED TO THE
AUDIT COUPONS.
23.MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS
NO PROVISIONS APPLY.
25.FARE BY RULE
NOT APPLICABLE.
26.GROUPS
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
27.TOURS
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
28.VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
29.DEPOSITS
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
31.VOLUNTARY CHANGES
NO VOLUNTARY CHANGES DATA FOUND.
33.VOLUNTARY REFUNDS
NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.
35.NEGOTIATED FARES
NOT APPLICABLE.
IC.INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION
NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 5:04 pm
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Originally Posted by seacarl
were you able to book RT or only 1-way?
Only 1-way, but still a great fare... Now that several airlines allow one-way redemption, I really don't mind these 1-way fares!
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 7:12 pm
  #475  
 
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Great find, this TK fare.
You can even book a stopover of 5 months or so in IST to continue the journey to Brazil later or you could cancel the trip after the BKK-IST flight to get back the money for the BKK-GRU flight no hip rule applies
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 7:13 pm
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GREAT FIND! ^ Please note that TK offers free overnight at istanbul if the transfer-time exeeds 7h. Check Miles&Smiles subforum for more info. Now i just have to figure out how to make best use of this fare since im not based in Bangkok.
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 8:47 pm
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Originally Posted by joorinainen
GREAT FIND! ^ Please note that TK offers free overnight at istanbul if the transfer-time exeeds 7h. Check Miles&Smiles subforum for more info. Now i just have to figure out how to make best use of this fare since im not based in Bangkok.
Anyone knows when this fare is valid for travel for?
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 9:04 pm
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Originally Posted by DFWFairy
Anyone knows when this fare is valid for travel for?
There are plenty of dates far as next january/february.
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 10:53 pm
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Great find +1. Does anyone know if this is upgradable with UA or BD miles?... whoops- just saw this was already answered, thx.
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 11:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Where2next?
Great find +1. Does anyone know if this is upgradable with UA or BD miles?
There is no F on IST-GRU route. There are some random runs with their leased 77W BKK-IST route(don't ask which dates or flight numbers, it's impossible to predict with TK). They are removing these birds from their fleet.
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