Jul 30, 2016, 4:21 pm
Last edit by: Slickw
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Sep 24, 2016, 11:28 am
#1471
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 18
Use Marriott 7 night cert @ SPG properties???
Earlier this year I cashed in Marriott points for a Cat 9 seven night travel package.
Any idea if the seven night cert is now redeemable at an SPG property?
Any idea if the seven night cert is now redeemable at an SPG property?
Sep 24, 2016, 11:33 am
#1472
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 18
I have a seven night cert, but only Silver status. My wife has Gold. We are looking at Paris or Rome and would like the free Gold status breakfast for a week. Can I transfer my seven night cert to her account so we get her benefits? Thanks
Sep 24, 2016, 12:03 pm
#1473
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Aug 2002
Programs: UALifetimePremierGold, Marriott LifetimeTitanium
Posts: 71,114
No. The programs are separate until 2018.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Sep 24, 2016, 1:20 pm
#1474
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: ORD
Programs: US Air, UA BA LH AI DELTA MARRIOTT CHOICE SGP
Posts: 9,883
Hi
Has anyone seen any info on whether a Travel Package Cert. from Marriott can be used at a SPG ?
Has anyone seen any info on whether a Travel Package Cert. from Marriott can be used at a SPG ?
Sep 24, 2016, 1:38 pm
#1475
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
The answer is no. Right now the ONLY connection between the programs is that your elite status will be matched and you can transfer points between them. Awards from one program have no meaning with the other program.
Sep 24, 2016, 3:12 pm
#1477
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: MCO, YEG
Posts: 1,182
Sep 25, 2016, 7:01 am
#1478
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,363
Are vacation clubs included as part of the packages? Am eyeing the Kauai vacation club property.
Sep 25, 2016, 7:28 am
#1479
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
Programs: MR LT Titanium, IHG Plat.,UA Premier Silver, & PA/OH Turnpike Million Miler
Posts: 2,320
--Jon
Sep 25, 2016, 11:08 am
#1480
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,934
Keep in mind there was no word of Marriott-SPG linking, or the points transfer ratio, until the day it became suddenly available. So kinda hard to tell what notice they will give for anything else in this expected program merger coming up.
Sep 25, 2016, 11:31 pm
#1481
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: HHonors diamond, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Gold, UA Silver, Marriott Silver
Posts: 280
Possible to cancel hotel portion to get some points back?
If I want to cancel the hotel potion of the travel package but keep the miles then does anyone know how many points you get back on your account?
Sep 26, 2016, 1:36 am
#1482
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: MCO, YEG
Posts: 1,182
You can't cancel the hotel portion to get points back. If you cancel the hotel stay, you just get the certificate back for the hotel stay and still have to use it for another stay before it expires.
Sep 26, 2016, 4:14 am
#1483
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: DCA, EGE, IAD
Programs: MR LTT, BA Gold, AA LTP, UA Silver
Posts: 6,077
Just got off the phone with the MR rep. And it looks like Delta3MM is correct.
What Marriott has done is changed from a set standard 45/50/55K return value for the various Cat. hotels to a variable amount of return value. The amount one gets back from returned hotel cert is based on the number of airline miles transferred with the package.
Basically, a TP with 120K airline miles will result in the following return values based on the hotel award category:
Cat. 1-5 : 10K points
Cat. 6 : 25K points
Cat. 7 : 40K points
If one purchased a TP with 50K airline miles then the following would be the return values:
Cat. 1-5 : 40K points
Cat. 6 : 55K points
Cat. 7 : 75K points.
I didn't ask what all the return values would be, but it looks like the more miles the TP version you order, the less the return value for the hotel cert.
Of course with all of this, there is no change to the initial point cost of a TP award. The only thing that has changed is that points received from returning the hotel cert is now based on the type of TP award ordered.
One more point is that if you ordered a TP award last year (like I did a couple of times) then the old return values still apply to those. These new numbers are applicable to TP awards ordered this year on forward.
What Marriott has done is changed from a set standard 45/50/55K return value for the various Cat. hotels to a variable amount of return value. The amount one gets back from returned hotel cert is based on the number of airline miles transferred with the package.
Basically, a TP with 120K airline miles will result in the following return values based on the hotel award category:
Cat. 1-5 : 10K points
Cat. 6 : 25K points
Cat. 7 : 40K points
If one purchased a TP with 50K airline miles then the following would be the return values:
Cat. 1-5 : 40K points
Cat. 6 : 55K points
Cat. 7 : 75K points.
I didn't ask what all the return values would be, but it looks like the more miles the TP version you order, the less the return value for the hotel cert.
Of course with all of this, there is no change to the initial point cost of a TP award. The only thing that has changed is that points received from returning the hotel cert is now based on the type of TP award ordered.
One more point is that if you ordered a TP award last year (like I did a couple of times) then the old return values still apply to those. These new numbers are applicable to TP awards ordered this year on forward.
I would recommend calling MR to verify with them, and if you do then please post the values here. Thanks!
Sep 26, 2016, 5:18 am
#1484
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
And there is a very good reason for this. 
If someone doesn't want the hotel cert, there is already an award structure for miles transfers. If you want a "travel package" award, there is a different award structure. Trying to make a TP award into just a miles transfer award by returning the hotel cert will result in a cost more closely aligned to the miles transfer award structure.
If someone doesn't want the hotel cert, there is already an award structure for miles transfers. If you want a "travel package" award, there is a different award structure. Trying to make a TP award into just a miles transfer award by returning the hotel cert will result in a cost more closely aligned to the miles transfer award structure.
Sep 26, 2016, 5:54 am
#1485
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: MCO, YEG
Posts: 1,182
Has anyone confirmed this more recently. I contacted MR and they advised me that the certs could not be turned back into points at all. I didn't go anywhere beyond the first level, so they may have just been making it up, but it does match everything else I have read.