Jul 30, 2016, 4:21 pm
Last edit by: Slickw
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
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Aug 19, 2018, 5:54 am
#5731
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 305
As an aside, I've just noticed that the Points price of all my existing reservations where I had yet to attach a certificate or pay points, have increased/decreased to the new rate. I had understood that all existing reservations would stay at the reserved rate...
Aug 19, 2018, 6:00 am
#5732
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,748
Not to rub it in or anything. I managed to find an Old Cat 8 hotel mapping to New Cat 6 that I wanted to stay in, and that was available for the 7 days I wanted.
I upgraded my Old Cat 1-5 to a Cat 8, and booked it 3 days before 8/18.
So now I’m quite pleased. If I had left it unattached I would not have been able to book that hotel which is now a Cat 6 and my cert now being a Cat 5.
So at least for me, this “gamble” worked out OK.
Aug 19, 2018, 6:10 am
#5733
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: CLT
Programs: Marriott Plat, AA Gold
Posts: 1,076
Aug 19, 2018, 6:18 am
#5734
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: LAX
Posts: 2,851
On the bright side, all Cat 6, 8 and Tier one may still have a chance of good will 30k refund or extension of certificate.
If the new conversion is already available why would we not be able to book something till September 18th? Does it really take one month for Marriott to change the certificates for us?
Perhaps it is a planned announcement. Get people upset, then make people"whole" again and then people will stay or become a Marriott loyalist.
Just my 2 cents.
If the new conversion is already available why would we not be able to book something till September 18th? Does it really take one month for Marriott to change the certificates for us?
Perhaps it is a planned announcement. Get people upset, then make people"whole" again and then people will stay or become a Marriott loyalist.
Just my 2 cents.
Aug 19, 2018, 6:27 am
#5735
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Canada
Posts: 347
I've got the same thing going on - reservation was made but no deduction for three reservations in December-January made on Thursday. The website was buggy so it would make the reservation but didn't deduct points and wouldn't let me buy a certificate, but the reservation did say the certificate would automatically be bought 7 days before check in. I have emails indicating the points price of the reservation at the old price. Now that website shows the new price. I didn't have time to call, but now I may have to at some point...
Aug 19, 2018, 6:35 am
#5737
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: CLT
Programs: Marriott Plat, AA Gold
Posts: 1,076
I've got the same thing going on - reservation was made but no deduction for three reservations in December-January made on Thursday. The website was buggy so it would make the reservation but didn't deduct points and wouldn't let me buy a certificate, but the reservation did say the certificate would automatically be bought 7 days before check in. I have emails indicating the points price of the reservation at the old price. Now that website shows the new price. I didn't have time to call, but now I may have to at some point...
Aug 19, 2018, 6:50 am
#5738
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Jakarta
Programs: *wood & marriott plat, Hyatt, Accor
Posts: 410
Those that bought old cat 6 package I believe really lost out, even comparing to the new devalued travel package.
Old Cat 6 travel package Cost 300K points = New cat 1 to 4 + 85K most international airline miles.
Currently new devalued CAT 1 to 4 cost 330k points. But we get 110K airline miles.
So basically, the difference is only 30 points and you get extra 25K airline miles.
If you convert 30k points, we'll get 12.5K miles, which is still 12.5K miles less than the current Cat 5 travel package. So, for the same 330k miles, you get 85K miles + 12.5K miles, for a total of only 97.5K miles. Which is still 12.5K less miles.
So, basically if you bought an old Cat 6 travel package, you actually lost out on 12.5k miles even compared to the new more costly travel package. And I got 3 Cat 6 travel package from points it took me quite a while to collect. Let just hope Marriott gives us a refund of 30k or lets us cancel the purchase.
Old Cat 6 travel package Cost 300K points = New cat 1 to 4 + 85K most international airline miles.
Currently new devalued CAT 1 to 4 cost 330k points. But we get 110K airline miles.
So basically, the difference is only 30 points and you get extra 25K airline miles.
If you convert 30k points, we'll get 12.5K miles, which is still 12.5K miles less than the current Cat 5 travel package. So, for the same 330k miles, you get 85K miles + 12.5K miles, for a total of only 97.5K miles. Which is still 12.5K less miles.
So, basically if you bought an old Cat 6 travel package, you actually lost out on 12.5k miles even compared to the new more costly travel package. And I got 3 Cat 6 travel package from points it took me quite a while to collect. Let just hope Marriott gives us a refund of 30k or lets us cancel the purchase.
Last edited by SC Alum; Aug 19, 2018 at 6:56 am
Aug 19, 2018, 7:06 am
#5739
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 746
I'm pretty sure most people got either 132K (United) or 120K miles on the original purchase.
Aug 19, 2018, 7:13 am
#5740
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,064
Regardless, it's VERY clear how much Marriott values their most loyal travelers and business travelers; they don't.
If this policy holds, we're taking our business elsewhere and informing my husband's corporate travel department about it. His company has over 50,000 employees, many of whom travel for business regularly. They take treatment of their employees by hotel chains very seriously, and they've dropped hotels from their booking list because of lesser issues than this.
sorry, this is just funny. Let us know if the travel department cares about your bet re: leisure travel that didn't pan out 
my guess is pretty good at this point ... they will laugh all day 
With plenty of time time did they announce new hotel rates and mappings and made it clear that you will have to re-book at new values post August 18. This is also true when you gain ... some hotels go down and I will re-book some stays; they are refunding points in these cases. So anyway, thanks for making me laugh this morning.
Aug 19, 2018, 7:15 am
#5741
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Jakarta
Programs: *wood & marriott plat, Hyatt, Accor
Posts: 410
Aug 19, 2018, 7:17 am
#5742
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Tampa, FL
Programs: AAMM & PLT; UA Gold, DL Silver, Marriott LT Titanium Elite, Hilton Diamond, Hertz #1 Gold Club
Posts: 1,591
I have not seen this discussed. What's the impact on the 5 night packages available to MVCI owners?
Aug 19, 2018, 7:22 am
#5743
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
sorry, this is just funny. Let us know if the travel department cares about your bet re: leisure travel that didn't pan out my guess is pretty good at this point ... they will laugh all day With plenty of time time did they announce new hotel rates and mappings and made it clear that you will have to re-book at new values post August 18.
Aug 19, 2018, 7:27 am
#5744
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 746
Fiction doesn’t impress me as much as the truth, and the facts are that Marriott didn’t announce the category mappings for TP certs until this weekend. I don’t call that “plenty of time”, but then again I’m not in the game to be a Marriott defender when it does wrong by its customers In at least parts.
Aug 19, 2018, 7:33 am
#5745
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,064
Fiction doesn’t impress me as much as the truth, and the facts are that Marriott didn’t announce the category mappings for TP certs until this weekend. I don’t call that “plenty of time”, but then again I’m not in the game to be a Marriott defender when it does wrong by its customers In at least parts.
but anyway ... I am sure we will see plenty of whining ... I'll have the cheese ready Booked 2 TPs and have them attached. These will be 100% honored. All the other stuff was 'guessing games' and 'hoping' they would allow for the best of both worlds ... well, they did not. Some you win and some you don't.