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COMike78 Aug 10, 2018 2:58 pm


Originally Posted by OssianBlue (Post 30069357)
Why? Ok, you come back and have to wait three weeks for a booking at some point in time in the next year. That doesn't seem particularly problematic. The only real issue would be people who were intending on using them at a Starwood property betwen Aug 18 and September 18 or at a Marriott property that is dropping in price during those dates.

The lack of communications on this topic - but as I think about it, those with TPs are probably a fairly small number of overall Marriott customers. Those who redeemed a certificate in the last 4 months are probably an even smaller subset, so perhaps it will not be a "PR disaster" unless you count 100+ pages on a FT threat covering this topic in the last month as being bad PR. I do look forward to the next 100+ pages in the coming week though!

MasterGeek Aug 10, 2018 2:58 pm


Originally Posted by Counsellor (Post 30069376)
Well, if you represented yourself as being an MVC owner in order to get the 5N, the reason you felt like a thief would be because you were one. Deceit = fraud, and in a case such as this obtaining the certificate through false pretenses is considered theft even though you may have paid the points, because you were not entitled to make the transaction. If you are caught, not only would you lose the certificate but the associate you deceived may be in trouble and may lose his/her job because of it.

I did NOT misrepresent myself as an MVC owner. I merely told the agent I thought they also offered 5-night certificates and if I can get one.

michelin Aug 10, 2018 3:00 pm

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Counsellor Aug 10, 2018 3:18 pm


Originally Posted by dan9124 (Post 30069333)
This may be lost in everyone's theorizing, but is anyone else not seeing the option to attach a 7 night certificate on the Marriott award booking page at the moment? I've searched two different cities and not seeing the option to apply my certificate.

I believe you cannot attach a TP certificate to a reservation on line. You have to call the TP number (or maybe a customer service number would work) because they have to attach the certificate at their end.

COMike78 Aug 10, 2018 3:18 pm


Originally Posted by controller1 (Post 30069374)
Hopefully, you'll consider the following as "truth"

Getting closer! I am still waiting to see Marriott reach out to those of us with outstanding certificates directly either vial email, text, smoke signals or Pony Express! I redeemed my Reward points for a negotiable instrument that will have a restriction (albeit temporary) in my ability to redeem it and the value is still an unknown. Until Marriott communicates with me directly (and no, I do not consider them posting to Insider to have adequately informed me of the pending changes) they are just feeding into this endless cycle of speculation. And you know what, at the end of the day everything in that link is probably 100% "truth" but should I be expected to find that link on my own? Shouldn't Marriott be pushing that out? And even if they did push it out today - come on, does any reasonable person think 1 week is sufficient notice?

RedSun Aug 10, 2018 3:23 pm

From Marriott's side, it is all business as usual. I think Marriott will be happy to work one year to clean up all the legacy TPs and get all hotel brands in order. The hard currency hotels have is the rooms. I do not think Marriott will worry too much about the TPs.

This is much better situation than when Chase giving out 100,000 UR points with the CSR. And the applicants were not capped.

nexusCFX Aug 10, 2018 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by COMike78 (Post 30069438)
Getting closer! I am still waiting to see Marriott reach out to those of us with outstanding certificates directly either vial email, text, smoke signals or Pony Express! I redeemed my Reward points for a negotiable instrument that will have a restriction (albeit temporary) in my ability to redeem it and the value is still an unknown. Until Marriott communicates with me directly (and no, I do not consider them posting to Insider to have adequately informed me of the pending changes) they are just feeding into this endless cycle of speculation. And you know what, at the end of the day everything in that link is probably 100% "truth" but should I be expected to find that link on my own? Shouldn't Marriott be pushing that out? And even if they did push it out today - come on, does any reasonable person think 1 week is sufficient notice?

I don't recall Marriott sending emails to every member detailing the nuances of the new program, along with follow up emails as new pieces of information were made available. Despite that, it would sound quite silly to insist that Marriott has not adequately informed members of changes to the program because the details were posted on one of their websites rather than a direct communication. Members of a rewards program have a degree of responsibility in keeping informed about changes to said program.

Counsellor Aug 10, 2018 3:25 pm


Originally Posted by MasterGeek (Post 30069384)
I did NOT misrepresent myself as an MVC owner. I merely told the agent I thought they also offered 5-night certificates and if I can get one.

Yet you knew, from being rejected in your "many failed attempts in the past," that this offer was valid only for MVC owners. It's a little hard to argue "innocent mistake" under such circumstances.

zozeppelin Aug 10, 2018 3:29 pm

While I am busy selecting seasonings for my crow, I am left to ponder:

1) Why do they continue to feed statements not through official mediums (transition faq website, travel package webpage, email, etc). And who are these people to followup with questions with?
2) This is the most definitive "statement" yet, but again from the unofficial channels, conflicting with previous statements (points refund, attach to maximize, etc)
3) Blackout period can create some headaches for those with reservations during that period that encounter short term planning changes / travel issues that would otherwise require small and simple adjustments.

What a clownshow.

RedSun Aug 10, 2018 3:34 pm


Originally Posted by zozeppelin (Post 30069481)
While I am busy selecting seasonings for my crow, I am left to ponder:

1) Why do they continue to feed statements not through official mediums (transition faq website, travel package webpage, email, etc). And who are these people to followup with questions with?
2) This is the most definitive "statement" yet, but again from the unofficial channels, conflicting with previous statements (points refund, attach to maximize, etc)
3) Blackout period can create some headaches for those with reservations during that period that encounter short term planning changes / travel issues that would otherwise require small and simple adjustments.

What a clownshow.

Quit Marriott Brand all together. :D

COMike78 Aug 10, 2018 3:38 pm


Originally Posted by nexusCFX (Post 30069462)
I don't recall Marriott sending emails to every member detailing the nuances of the new program, along with follow up emails as new pieces of information were made available. Despite that, it would sound quite silly to insist that Marriott has not adequately informed members of changes to the program because the details were posted on one of their websites rather than a direct communication. Members of a rewards program have a degree of responsibility in keeping informed about changes to said program.

I received two emails on April 16th from Marriott and SPG saying that "Rest assured, over the coming weeks we'll continue to help you understand what these changes mean for you so you can take full advantage of your new opportunities." A link was then provided to the Marriott website (not Insider website which is separate and distinct from the "official" website. I don't see anything on the TP page either - https://www.marriott.com/rewards/usepoints/morepack.mi

So, while I have indeed rested quite assuredly, I still have been waiting by my email box expecting to be helped in understanding what these changes mean for me and also diligently checking the official Marriott website (including the page dedicated to travel packages) without any luck! I feel that I have been responsible. If not an email, then can I at least see something on Marriott home page or at least on the TP page, or is that too much to ask?

lz80521 Aug 10, 2018 3:51 pm

So, if someone has a TP expiring between 8/18 - 9/18...it's gonna be fun.

nacho Aug 10, 2018 4:04 pm

I guess Marriott doesn't know that I'm on FT - just got an email from them:


We noticed that you have a Travel Package certificate that you have not yet attached to a hotel reservation. Below are your options:• If you know when you want to travel, make a new reservation or attach your certificate to an existing one prior to August 18, 2018.• If you are still trying to plan that perfect trip, you can hold onto the certificate and will be able to add it to a reservation starting on September 18, 2018 under the new Travel Packages program*.
Please note that whichever option you choose, from August 18 through September 18, you will not be able to modify your certificate for an existing reservation or attach it to a new one. Please plan accordingly.
Nothing new - I guess they think we know what's the new Travel Packages program is.

COMike78 Aug 10, 2018 4:09 pm


Originally Posted by nacho (Post 30069564)
I guess Marriott doesn't know that I'm on FT - just got an email from them:



Nothing new - I guess they think we know what's the new Travel Packages program is.

That's what I am talking about! A targeted official email campaign to everyone with an outstanding cert informing them of options. Was that so hard, Marriott? I am ignoring the lack of details on the new program for the time being!

OssianBlue Aug 10, 2018 4:26 pm

"will be able to add it to a reservation starting on September 18, 2018 under the new Travel Packages program"

Old certs will convert to new certs, then.


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