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rylan Jan 14, 2013 9:54 am

Hmmm... apparently I made Plat Premier also, unless its just a bug with previous nights being cleared/reset. I don't show any rollover in my account yet and should have a bunch.

MSPeconomist Jan 14, 2013 11:19 am


Originally Posted by rylan (Post 20044134)
Hmmm... apparently I made Plat Premier also, unless its just a bug with previous nights being cleared/reset. I don't show any rollover in my account yet and should have a bunch.

Congrats.

rylan Jan 14, 2013 11:32 am

Thanks. Will see if the status is for real when they finish the rollover processing. I'm sure there will be a firestorm of posts if a bunch of people got 'demoted' back to Plat if it was a glitch. hahaha :p

SkiAdcock Jan 14, 2013 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by USirritated (Post 20040664)
Yes, but isn't it a question about whether LT status appears on MR web profiles at sign on? Has anyone seen any version of LIFETIME before Plat, Gold, Silver on marriott.com, once they have been awarded LT status after not making status renewal for any given year?

LT does not appear on the website on sign-in, just the level. For example I'm LT Plat but my stays haven't been enough last few years for normal annual Plat status. When I log in it simply says Plat. It does not say LT Plat. It also says nights needed to get status xx, but I ignore that since I'm Plat for life.

Cheers.

moman Jan 14, 2013 2:06 pm


Originally Posted by pooker (Post 20039135)
I am kind of jealous that so many PP and platinum's get so many upgrades (especially the suite upgrades). The biggest upgrade I have ever gotten was the concierge level. O.O

I wouldn't be too upset, out of 83 BIB nights last year, I spent 3 of them in suites (and one was on Christmas eve, when property occupancy was 14%).

Marriott, especially the FS properties, is my favorite hotel chain. Chalk it up to the past six years I've been a MR member, and I'll cross both 1000 program nights and 2M points by mid-year. Most of my experiences have been good, some have been fantastic, while a few have been poor. However, with PP it is really a "swing and a miss", because the desk clerks don't seem to be trained to understand the program or how to effectively communicate it to guests. I spent too much time arguing with clerks last year about getting anything more than the "next up" room.

I have tasted the *W apple, to the tune of 69 nights last year, and it was both sweet and sour in its own way. The only real feedback I can give to Marriott about the Premier program is to always pre-assign the best rooms to the Premier members and at the least, make sure that desk clerks understand where Premier is in the pecking order (hint - it's not below silver) - and empower them to use good judgment to respond or anticipate guests needs.

To those new Premier members this year - congratulations, hope you have a great experience.

USirritated Jan 14, 2013 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 20045246)
LT does not appear on the website on sign-in, just the level. For example I'm LT Plat but my stays haven't been enough last few years for normal annual Plat status. When I log in it simply says Plat. It does not say LT Plat. It also says nights needed to get status xx, but I ignore that since I'm Plat for life.

Cheers.

Yes, as it has been posted MANY times in this and other threads, I HAVE been aware that IN THE PAST, Marriott has never indicated LT status for sign in to marriott.com.

HOWEVER, considering that for the very first time ever in Marriott HISTORY, Marriott has published, in their stated elite rules (meaning put it in writing for all to see without being a FT or Marriott Insiders subscriber/reader), that a LT status even exists, it then logically follows that seeing LT status reflected on individual accounts may be "up in the air" as to whether such status might now begin to be differentiated for LT status upon individual sign in for members on marriott.com.

djohannw Jan 14, 2013 2:50 pm


Originally Posted by USirritated (Post 20039079)
Maybe that is a difference between PP and regular Plat, that upgrades show up in online rez histories for PP, but not for Plats?

Just checked in, and got exactly the same room (same number) than last time, which still comes with a free mini-bar and 20% off in the restaurant. The only noticable difference was that today the desk-guy called out the manager on duty to check me in who did his best to do some small-talk with me and informed me on how to get the free breakfast tomorrow morning, making a huge story out of it being free. Apart from that same routine as last year (and honestly I'd had preferred to be checked in by that nice young lady instead of the MoD...:-)), however.

That said my next stay is for thursday and this morning (european time) already showed a suite-upgrade after I responded to the eConcierge over the weekend. This is a reward stay, and I have a gold-companion with a room on his own (also on a reward - the hotel seems like a good deal with a $189 rate at Cat. 4), so I can closely compare the result in terms of upgrades received...;-)!

Greetings - Dirk

USirritated Jan 14, 2013 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by djohannw (Post 20046289)
....snip....

This is a reward stay, and I have a gold-companion with a room on his own (also on a reward - the hotel seems like a good deal with a $189 rate at Cat. 4), so I can closely compare the result in terms of upgrades received...;-)!

And of course, we will all be looking forward to your report on how it turned out 37 seconds after you check in/out! (Joking about the 37 seconds part, 10 minutes will suffice.) ;)

Swingtrain Jan 15, 2013 4:04 am

I've been LT Plat for 8 years and PP for 3 or 4. There is indeed one singular issue that maddens me and have long wondered if others find it frustrating in that I don't see it discussed in this forum.
Platinum and PP status is ONLY recognized by reservations when generating revenue. It INFURIATES me that there are seemingly NO additional benefits bestowed when it comes to point redemption opportunities. Please, please correct me if I'm wrong. When I want to book my annual vacation on a Caribbean beach, I'm afforded no additional benefit in competing for the limited rooms available over a silver guest who, after years of 10 nights per year is finally able to redeem their points. I've enjoyed the benefit of the 48 hour Platinum override reservation opportunity when paying, but there is nothing remotely like this on the point redemption side. If not 48 hours, then offer a 30 days, 60 days point redemption override.....something!
3 years ago the Marriott Concierge communicated: "...priority for point redemption reservations isn't a benefit of Platinum status. It has been discussed from time to time, especially a few of years ago when we were considering how to update some aspects of the program, but ultimately the direction we went was to eliminate black out dates." Presumably Marriott doesn't get a sense of this frustration among its members and has no motivation to change it, while I continue to seethe over this. Am I alone out here with this frustration?

bdschobel Jan 15, 2013 4:15 am

You are not alone. And now I know, neither am I!

Bruce

USirritated Jan 15, 2013 5:29 am


Originally Posted by Swingtrain (Post 20049583)
I've been LT Plat for 8 years and PP for 3 or 4. There is indeed one singular issue that maddens me and have long wondered if others find it frustrating in that I don't see it discussed in this forum.
Platinum and PP status is ONLY recognized by reservations when generating revenue. It INFURIATES me that there are seemingly NO additional benefits bestowed when it comes to point redemption opportunities. Please, please correct me if I'm wrong. When I want to book my annual vacation on a Caribbean beach, I'm afforded no additional benefit in competing for the limited rooms available over a silver guest who, after years of 10 nights per year is finally able to redeem their points. I've enjoyed the benefit of the 48 hour Platinum override reservation opportunity when paying, but there is nothing remotely like this on the point redemption side. If not 48 hours, then offer a 30 days, 60 days point redemption override.....something!
3 years ago the Marriott Concierge communicated: "...priority for point redemption reservations isn't a benefit of Platinum status. It has been discussed from time to time, especially a few of years ago when we were considering how to update some aspects of the program, but ultimately the direction we went was to eliminate black out dates." Presumably Marriott doesn't get a sense of this frustration among its members and has no motivation to change it, while I continue to seethe over this. Am I alone out here with this frustration?

OH YEAH, MAJOR +1

Maybe we should start some kind of a petition!
(No, I am not joking, although this is not quite a change.org level of urgency.)

escapefromphl Jan 15, 2013 8:33 am


Originally Posted by Swingtrain (Post 20049583)
I've been LT Plat for 8 years and PP for 3 or 4. There is indeed one singular issue that maddens me and have long wondered if others find it frustrating in that I don't see it discussed in this forum.
Platinum and PP status is ONLY recognized by reservations when generating revenue. It INFURIATES me that there are seemingly NO additional benefits bestowed when it comes to point redemption opportunities. Please, please correct me if I'm wrong. When I want to book my annual vacation on a Caribbean beach, I'm afforded no additional benefit in competing for the limited rooms available over a silver guest who, after years of 10 nights per year is finally able to redeem their points. I've enjoyed the benefit of the 48 hour Platinum override reservation opportunity when paying, but there is nothing remotely like this on the point redemption side. If not 48 hours, then offer a 30 days, 60 days point redemption override.....something!
3 years ago the Marriott Concierge communicated: "...priority for point redemption reservations isn't a benefit of Platinum status. It has been discussed from time to time, especially a few of years ago when we were considering how to update some aspects of the program, but ultimately the direction we went was to eliminate black out dates." Presumably Marriott doesn't get a sense of this frustration among its members and has no motivation to change it, while I continue to seethe over this. Am I alone out here with this frustration?

Yeah they have only weakened the Platinum value proposition recently, something like this would be very valuable. As would some upgrade certs or something along those lines such as weekend Bogo certs. Marriott's cash & points is a joke. I will probably re-qualify for Platinum but I'm getting 50 night *wood Platinum as well. Those 50 nights probably would go to Marriott if they had better higher tier benefits.

USirritated Jan 15, 2013 8:51 am


Originally Posted by escapefromphl (Post 20050740)
Yeah they have only weakened the Platinum value proposition recently, something like this would be very valuable. As would some upgrade certs or something along those lines such as weekend Bogo certs. Marriott's cash & points is a joke. I will probably re-qualify for Platinum but I'm getting 50 night *wood Platinum as well. Those 50 nights probably would go to Marriott if they had better higher tier benefits.

I bet if we assembled a petition, with space next to each "signature" for comments, that we could easily get hundreds of joiners, and it might carry some weight with Marriott. Any ideas about this?

SkiAdcock Jan 15, 2013 9:00 am


Originally Posted by USirritated (Post 20046092)
it then logically follows that seeing LT status reflected on individual accounts may be "up in the air" as to whether such status might now begin to be differentiated for LT status upon individual sign in for members on marriott.com.

Don't agree w/ your logic; not to mention that Marriott is often not logical. It will probably be the way it's been to date for (LT Silver/Gold/Elite). I just logged in to my account. I did not stay enough at Marriott to get Plat status. However, my account shows Platinum - no Lifetime before it - simply Plat. The way it's been since I got LT Plat.

Cheers.

SkiAdcock Jan 15, 2013 9:06 am


Originally Posted by USirritated (Post 20050860)
I bet if we assembled a petition, with space next to each "signature" for comments, that we could easily get hundreds of joiners, and it might carry some weight with Marriott. Any ideas about this?

1. If you're going to do a 'petition' you would need to do it on "Marriott Insiders", as Marriott doesn't pay as much attention to FT anymore.
2. 'Hundreds' of joiners isn't going to make a big difference to Marriott.
3. The breakfast petition (which affects more than just PPs) had lots of folk signing the petition on MarriottInsiders & nothing changed.

FWIW - I 100% agree that PP should get some extra bennies to differentiate them from regular Plats. That Marriott diluted some of the bennies they did get is absurd.

Cheers.


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