Open Door Policy
#1
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Open Door Policy
A personal first after 1000+ Marriott nights and probably another 1000+ elsewhere.
I was staying at the Icon in Houston, one of my favourite business Marriott properties this week, and when I arrived back last night, my card key would not work.
Surprisingly, there were no lights at all on the lock - normally when your key doesn't work, a red or orange light shows.
I tried my second key card - same result, then, just before heading down to get the card recut, pushed the handle and the door opened! A few minutes further playing showed that the door was completely unlocked and there was no need for any key of any sort to get in.
I called the front desk and explained what the issue was. The first response was to send someone up with a new key. Next came a maintenance man who confirmed that the door lock wasn't working, told me that he couldn't fix it and suggested I lock the door from the inside.
He then asked what time I'd be up in the morningt (7 a.m.) and said he'd have someone up to the room at that time so I could get breakfast.
I was actually on a call 7 - 8 and when that finished, I gathered my things together and went to check out. It seemed to come as a total surprise to the front desk that there was any issue with the room at all.
So I'm now doubly cheesed off with the hotel. Firstly because it happened in the first place and my belongings were available to anyone who wanted for an unknown period of time, and secondly with the totally underwhelming way they responded to what, to me at least, was a serious issue.
I will speak with them again more formally and let you know what the outcome was.
I was staying at the Icon in Houston, one of my favourite business Marriott properties this week, and when I arrived back last night, my card key would not work.
Surprisingly, there were no lights at all on the lock - normally when your key doesn't work, a red or orange light shows.
I tried my second key card - same result, then, just before heading down to get the card recut, pushed the handle and the door opened! A few minutes further playing showed that the door was completely unlocked and there was no need for any key of any sort to get in.
I called the front desk and explained what the issue was. The first response was to send someone up with a new key. Next came a maintenance man who confirmed that the door lock wasn't working, told me that he couldn't fix it and suggested I lock the door from the inside.
He then asked what time I'd be up in the morningt (7 a.m.) and said he'd have someone up to the room at that time so I could get breakfast.
I was actually on a call 7 - 8 and when that finished, I gathered my things together and went to check out. It seemed to come as a total surprise to the front desk that there was any issue with the room at all.
So I'm now doubly cheesed off with the hotel. Firstly because it happened in the first place and my belongings were available to anyone who wanted for an unknown period of time, and secondly with the totally underwhelming way they responded to what, to me at least, was a serious issue.
I will speak with them again more formally and let you know what the outcome was.
#2
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 113
A personal first after 1000+ Marriott nights and probably another 1000+ elsewhere.
I was staying at the Icon in Houston, one of my favourite business Marriott properties this week, and when I arrived back last night, my card key would not work.
Surprisingly, there were no lights at all on the lock - normally when your key doesn't work, a red or orange light shows.
I tried my second key card - same result, then, just before heading down to get the card recut, pushed the handle and the door opened! A few minutes further playing showed that the door was completely unlocked and there was no need for any key of any sort to get in.
I called the front desk and explained what the issue was. The first response was to send someone up with a new key. Next came a maintenance man who confirmed that the door lock wasn't working, told me that he couldn't fix it and suggested I lock the door from the inside.
He then asked what time I'd be up in the morningt (7 a.m.) and said he'd have someone up to the room at that time so I could get breakfast.
I was actually on a call 7 - 8 and when that finished, I gathered my things together and went to check out. It seemed to come as a total surprise to the front desk that there was any issue with the room at all.
So I'm now doubly cheesed off with the hotel. Firstly because it happened in the first place and my belongings were available to anyone who wanted for an unknown period of time, and secondly with the totally underwhelming way they responded to what, to me at least, was a serious issue.
I will speak with them again more formally and let you know what the outcome was.
I was staying at the Icon in Houston, one of my favourite business Marriott properties this week, and when I arrived back last night, my card key would not work.
Surprisingly, there were no lights at all on the lock - normally when your key doesn't work, a red or orange light shows.
I tried my second key card - same result, then, just before heading down to get the card recut, pushed the handle and the door opened! A few minutes further playing showed that the door was completely unlocked and there was no need for any key of any sort to get in.
I called the front desk and explained what the issue was. The first response was to send someone up with a new key. Next came a maintenance man who confirmed that the door lock wasn't working, told me that he couldn't fix it and suggested I lock the door from the inside.
He then asked what time I'd be up in the morningt (7 a.m.) and said he'd have someone up to the room at that time so I could get breakfast.
I was actually on a call 7 - 8 and when that finished, I gathered my things together and went to check out. It seemed to come as a total surprise to the front desk that there was any issue with the room at all.
So I'm now doubly cheesed off with the hotel. Firstly because it happened in the first place and my belongings were available to anyone who wanted for an unknown period of time, and secondly with the totally underwhelming way they responded to what, to me at least, was a serious issue.
I will speak with them again more formally and let you know what the outcome was.
I'll be interested to hear if anyone else has had similar experiences and what their opinions are. Just be prepared for some idiot to tell you not to worry about it.
#3
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In my brief time on this forum, I have noticed that there are FTers with ALL kinds of personal ethos. Therefore, I would almost guarantee you will get some people that say "No Harm, No Foul" and that you shouldn't make a big deal of it because nothing was taken, etc. However, I completely agree with you that this is a serious issue, and just because nothing happened doesn't mean that nothing COULD have happened. When considering the severity of the issue, you have to consider all circumstances under which this could have occurred. You could have been travelling with your wife, kids, etc. and would have been unable to rely on the lock to keep them safe. Not only could your valuables have been taken, but something far more nefarious could have potentially occurred. Therefore, I would definitely follow up with Management, as you have said. I don't know what kind of compensation you will get, but it is obviously worth bringing it to Management's attention so that they can (hopefully) discover what caused the lock to malfunction, and keep it from recurring. You may be able to press for some points, or a discount on a future stay as it seems you frequent this hotel often, but I doubt you will get any type of monetary compensation.
I'll be interested to hear if anyone else has had similar experiences and what their opinions are. Just be prepared for some idiot to tell you not to worry about it.
I'll be interested to hear if anyone else has had similar experiences and what their opinions are. Just be prepared for some idiot to tell you not to worry about it.
Thank you OP for naming the hotel. A hotel that is that blase with a security issue is a hotel I want to avoid.
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Edited to add: Since it's an Autograph Collection, do you get brekkie M-F (presumably), but do you know if you do on the weekends? Do they do anything else for elites? Please advise & I'll update the exec lounge sticky since we don't have a report on this property.
Cheers.
#5
Join Date: Jun 2012
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My rule of thumb is whether the next guest would want whatever the situation was to happen to him. When there are issues, I always ask them NOT to give me the points. It's too easy for a complaint to be written off the the manager can blame it on someone wanting points.
Thank you OP for naming the hotel. A hotel that is that blase with a security issue is a hotel I want to avoid.
Thank you OP for naming the hotel. A hotel that is that blase with a security issue is a hotel I want to avoid.
#6
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Thanks - please do!
Edited to add: Since it's an Autograph Collection, do you get brekkie M-F (presumably), but do you know if you do on the weekends? Do they do anything else for elites? Please advise & I'll update the exec lounge sticky since we don't have a report on this property.
Cheers.
Edited to add: Since it's an Autograph Collection, do you get brekkie M-F (presumably), but do you know if you do on the weekends? Do they do anything else for elites? Please advise & I'll update the exec lounge sticky since we don't have a report on this property.
Cheers.
Hope that helps!
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I'll not accept the room if I know that anyone can get into my room. This is a very basic thing that has to work IMO. If it happens to me, I'll give them a chance to fix it and if they told me that they can't, I'll pack my bags and go down to FD and ask them to give me another room or walk me to another hotel.
#8
Join Date: Jun 2012
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I'll not accept the room if I know that anyone can get into my room. This is a very basic thing that has to work IMO. If it happens to me, I'll give them a chance to fix it and if they told me that they can't, I'll pack my bags and go down to FD and ask them to give me another room or walk me to another hotel.
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Well yes, that much is obvious. The issue here is that the OP had already been staying at the hotel for a number of days and discovered the issue on the last night of his stay. The discussion is about any post-stay compensation and how to best bring attention to the issue.
This is what I would do, I'll contact Marriott Customer Care about the issue via the online form. Then they will contact you via email that the hotel will get back to you, the hotel will then get back to you to explain whatever they need to explain.
I like to use this method because I'd like the corporate to know if someone is doing an extraordinary job or someone is not doing their job right.
Last edited by nacho; Jul 11, 2012 at 4:17 pm Reason: Typo: it should be marriott customer care not marriott rewards
#10
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Sorry I missed that part. However I'll not stay in ANY room that doesn't have a working door lock - it doesn't matter even though it's my last night. So they will have to change room or walk me to another hotel at their expense.
This is what I would do, I'll contact Marriott Rewards about the issue via the online form. Then they will contact you via email that the hotel will get back to you, the hotel will then get back to you to explain whatever they need to explain.
I like to use this method because I'd like the corporate to know if someone is doing an extraordinary job or someone is not doing their job right.
This is what I would do, I'll contact Marriott Rewards about the issue via the online form. Then they will contact you via email that the hotel will get back to you, the hotel will then get back to you to explain whatever they need to explain.
I like to use this method because I'd like the corporate to know if someone is doing an extraordinary job or someone is not doing their job right.
But that is a good idea to contact Marriott Rewards. Depending on the OP's status, his complaint may carry some weight (hopefully).
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(Underlining mine) Yes seriously. If someone feels that it isn't a big deal to have your room door lock not work, especially after considering the fact that your wife/daughter could have been in the room, then I would say they are an idiot.
Do you disagree?
Do you disagree?
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I think the door lock not working is very serious. In fact, if I had returned to the room and noticed that the door wasn't locked, I would have called security (or the local police) instead of entering the room. Someone could have been inside, either hiding or in the process of commiting robbery.
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Had my wife been in the room I would feel more for the intruder than her, especially once she shoved her curling iron in his eyesocket. It isn't like armed thugs are roaming the hallways of upscale boutique hotels looking for randomly unlocked doors. It would take a complete alignment of the stars for something bad to happen and you probably have more chance of having your airplane fall from the sky than some armed thief accost you.
This assumes no malfeasance on the part of the staff and that factor alone would motivate me to make sure the hotel knew. I could much more easily see "Hey Bob, leave the lock disabled on Room 3312 and I'll grab the guy's luggage before he comes back. LOL OMG"