Dec 30, 2015, 10:18 am
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Ten (10) Elite Nights are given for each meeting held in a participating hotel under the "Rewarding Events" program. See below for non-participating brands. Information about the Rewarding Events program may be found at https://www.marriott.com/meeting-eve...els/rewards.mi
The 10 elite nights per meeting are independent of any hotel rooms booked in conjunction with the meeting. In fact, no hotel rooms have to be booked as part of the meeting in order to receive credit for 10 elite nights.
Although the Rewarding Events webpage refers to room nights for meeting participants, the most important section is the one that states 10 Elite Nights, regardless if you or your guest is paying for it
In general, a written contract is required (or should be obtained). In many cases, the meeting is booked through a central Marriott group sales office instead of directly with a hotel. If booked through a central Marriott group sales office, there is a three-page contract that makes reference to the Rewarding Events program on page 2 of the agreement. A MR member number should be included in this area of the contract by the group sales office.
FAQs:
Q: What brands participate in the Rewarding Events program?
A: AC Hotels by Marriott, Aloft, Autograph Collection, Courtyard by Marriott, Delta Hotels by Marriott, EDITION, Element, Fairfield by Marriott, Four Points by Marriott, Gaylord Hotels, JW Marriott, LeMéridien, The Luxury Collection, Marriott Hotels, Marriott Vacation Club, Moxy Hotels, Protea Hotels by Marriott, Renaissance Hotels, The Ritz-Carlton, Sheraton, St. Regis, Tribute Portfolio, W Hotels, & Westin.
Residence Inn by Marriott, TownePlace Suites, & Marriott Executive Apartments do not participate in the program.
Q: How do I find a hotel that participates?
A: Click on the link to the Rewarding Events page and then in the "Plan" section of the page click on the "Find a Hotel" box. Enter the city you'd like to have your meeting in, purpose of event (Business) and then check the "I need meeting/event space" box. Enter the size of your meeting (2 attendees should work) and then click the "Find" box. Leave the start date and end date blank. A list of potential hotels will be shown. The smallest meeting room is not usually shown online --- you may need to call each hotel to find out which one has a boardroom or other small meeting room. Once you've found a small meeting room, then request a quote online.
Q: How quickly will Marriott respond with a quote?
A: Usually within a day or two --- and usually via email. The email should contain a telephone number of the group sales contact. Give them a call and tell them you'd like to follow up on the quote and you're interested in booking the smallest room available for a 2 person meeting for an hour. If they quote a price that's higher than you want to pay, ask them if they can get approval for a lower priced meeting (e.g., a recent quote was for $75 for an 8 hour use of a CY boardroom). They accepted a counter of $50 for a one-hour meeting in the room (plus service charge plus local sales tax). Urban hotels may charge significantly higher rates for meeting space than a smaller, less congested city.
Q: Is a contract required?
A: The terms of the program suggest "yes" --- although there are reports that 10 elite nights have been granted without contracts. A best practice would be to obtain a contract.
Q: How long do points and EQNs take to post after the event is over?
A: Generally, this takes 3+ business days. According to Marriott, it can take 15 business days. If you do not see anything post after 15 business days, contact the hotel before contacting Marriott customer support. The hotel has to be the one to post it.
You will get an e-mail with a subject line Your Rewarding Events Award has Posted: EVENT NAME
Q: Will the hotel know what I am talking about when I say points and elite night credits?
A: Probably not. They may know about the rewarding events points being 3x per dollar spent, but not always. Usually they know of only the Marriott system (Group Posting Tool) where they input how much you spent and when. This is done after the event and is usually authorized by the sales or general manager.
Q: The contract doesn't say anything about points, will I still earn them?
A: YMMV but so far all the electronic contracts from the website state it, but some fail to read it. The paper contracts usually talk about points, but some reports that they don't, but still post. Remember this is a Marriott Rewards benefit that the hotels don't seem to be footing the bill for.
The 10 elite nights per meeting are independent of any hotel rooms booked in conjunction with the meeting. In fact, no hotel rooms have to be booked as part of the meeting in order to receive credit for 10 elite nights.
Although the Rewarding Events webpage refers to room nights for meeting participants, the most important section is the one that states 10 Elite Nights, regardless if you or your guest is paying for it
In general, a written contract is required (or should be obtained). In many cases, the meeting is booked through a central Marriott group sales office instead of directly with a hotel. If booked through a central Marriott group sales office, there is a three-page contract that makes reference to the Rewarding Events program on page 2 of the agreement. A MR member number should be included in this area of the contract by the group sales office.
FAQs:
Q: What brands participate in the Rewarding Events program?
A: AC Hotels by Marriott, Aloft, Autograph Collection, Courtyard by Marriott, Delta Hotels by Marriott, EDITION, Element, Fairfield by Marriott, Four Points by Marriott, Gaylord Hotels, JW Marriott, LeMéridien, The Luxury Collection, Marriott Hotels, Marriott Vacation Club, Moxy Hotels, Protea Hotels by Marriott, Renaissance Hotels, The Ritz-Carlton, Sheraton, St. Regis, Tribute Portfolio, W Hotels, & Westin.
Residence Inn by Marriott, TownePlace Suites, & Marriott Executive Apartments do not participate in the program.
Q: How do I find a hotel that participates?
A: Click on the link to the Rewarding Events page and then in the "Plan" section of the page click on the "Find a Hotel" box. Enter the city you'd like to have your meeting in, purpose of event (Business) and then check the "I need meeting/event space" box. Enter the size of your meeting (2 attendees should work) and then click the "Find" box. Leave the start date and end date blank. A list of potential hotels will be shown. The smallest meeting room is not usually shown online --- you may need to call each hotel to find out which one has a boardroom or other small meeting room. Once you've found a small meeting room, then request a quote online.
Q: How quickly will Marriott respond with a quote?
A: Usually within a day or two --- and usually via email. The email should contain a telephone number of the group sales contact. Give them a call and tell them you'd like to follow up on the quote and you're interested in booking the smallest room available for a 2 person meeting for an hour. If they quote a price that's higher than you want to pay, ask them if they can get approval for a lower priced meeting (e.g., a recent quote was for $75 for an 8 hour use of a CY boardroom). They accepted a counter of $50 for a one-hour meeting in the room (plus service charge plus local sales tax). Urban hotels may charge significantly higher rates for meeting space than a smaller, less congested city.
Q: Is a contract required?
A: The terms of the program suggest "yes" --- although there are reports that 10 elite nights have been granted without contracts. A best practice would be to obtain a contract.
Q: How long do points and EQNs take to post after the event is over?
A: Generally, this takes 3+ business days. According to Marriott, it can take 15 business days. If you do not see anything post after 15 business days, contact the hotel before contacting Marriott customer support. The hotel has to be the one to post it.
You will get an e-mail with a subject line Your Rewarding Events Award has Posted: EVENT NAME
Q: Will the hotel know what I am talking about when I say points and elite night credits?
A: Probably not. They may know about the rewarding events points being 3x per dollar spent, but not always. Usually they know of only the Marriott system (Group Posting Tool) where they input how much you spent and when. This is done after the event and is usually authorized by the sales or general manager.
Q: The contract doesn't say anything about points, will I still earn them?
A: YMMV but so far all the electronic contracts from the website state it, but some fail to read it. The paper contracts usually talk about points, but some reports that they don't, but still post. Remember this is a Marriott Rewards benefit that the hotels don't seem to be footing the bill for.
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Nov 20, 2015, 6:34 am
#1051
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Currently there are no rules on how you are to use the product. They are selling meeting rooms, what you do with it is of no concern to them as long as you are not destroying the property or doing something illegal. I'm sure they would have some push back if you tried to set up a meth lab for the day.
Expecting consequential business is not out of line. Until they require it, the program may be considered a success.
Expecting consequential business is not out of line. Until they require it, the program may be considered a success.
Nov 21, 2015, 4:24 pm
#1052
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Correct. If they're happy to issue ten status nights to someone who gives them nearly 100%-margin revenue in exchange for sitting in a room and making it dirty, why wouldn't they be just as happy issuing them to someone who will provide the same pure profit without even using the room? This status-for-meetings offer is similar to the common status-for-credit-card-spending offers in that both are rewarding revenue that is nearly pure profit with status perks that can only be utilized when even more revenue is contributed. It's not a "loophole"... everyone wins.
Nov 21, 2015, 5:14 pm
#1053
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Anyone know if this works with delta hotels in Quebec? thanks
Nov 21, 2015, 6:50 pm
#1055
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deleted wrong thread.
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Nov 21, 2015, 7:03 pm
#1056
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FINALLY! I'M EXCITED!!!!
Just got this email...
Congratulations! You have now been upgraded to our Diamond Tier status which is valid through February 2017. As a Diamond member, you will be instantly recognized as one of our valued guests at any Hyatt worldwide.
Diamond membership entitles you to a wide range of exclusive services and benefits. In order to continue to receive exclusive Diamond membership benefits, simply complete 25 stays or 50 nights at any Hyatt hotel or resort worldwide during the course of the calendar year.
Thank you for choosing Hyatt, and we hope you enjoy the privileges of Diamond membership when staying at any Hyatt worldwide.
Best Regards,
Just got this email...
Congratulations! You have now been upgraded to our Diamond Tier status which is valid through February 2017. As a Diamond member, you will be instantly recognized as one of our valued guests at any Hyatt worldwide.
Diamond membership entitles you to a wide range of exclusive services and benefits. In order to continue to receive exclusive Diamond membership benefits, simply complete 25 stays or 50 nights at any Hyatt hotel or resort worldwide during the course of the calendar year.
Thank you for choosing Hyatt, and we hope you enjoy the privileges of Diamond membership when staying at any Hyatt worldwide.
Best Regards,
Nov 21, 2015, 8:01 pm
#1057
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Nov 22, 2015, 3:19 pm
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Once upon a time, resorts provided breakfast to G/Ps until so many posters shouted and touted that Marriott Corp put a quick end to this extra benefit.
Once upon a time, posters would shout and tout how they were taking the whole family to breakfast in the lounge until Marriott Corp tweeked that ability and specifically limited it to 1+1.
And now the shout and tout is about those sham $50 meetings in order to get 10 nights and easily qualify for G/P without even having to log in one bed night, but all it would take is for Corporate to qualify legitimate Reward Meetings with a minimum of say $250/per to put an end to this sham (and as to the allegation that whatever the hotel is charging is pure profit, wrong, as the properties actually pay for nights, just like they do for points), so please, PLEASE, keep on shouting and touting so this flaw is closed sooner than later.
Once upon a time, posters would shout and tout how they were taking the whole family to breakfast in the lounge until Marriott Corp tweeked that ability and specifically limited it to 1+1.
And now the shout and tout is about those sham $50 meetings in order to get 10 nights and easily qualify for G/P without even having to log in one bed night, but all it would take is for Corporate to qualify legitimate Reward Meetings with a minimum of say $250/per to put an end to this sham (and as to the allegation that whatever the hotel is charging is pure profit, wrong, as the properties actually pay for nights, just like they do for points), so please, PLEASE, keep on shouting and touting so this flaw is closed sooner than later.
Nov 22, 2015, 4:41 pm
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Once upon a time, resorts provided breakfast to G/Ps until so many posters shouted and touted that Marriott Corp put a quick end to this extra benefit.
Once upon a time, posters would shout and tout how they were taking the whole family to breakfast in the lounge until Marriott Corp tweeked that ability and specifically limited it to 1+1.
And now the shout and tout is about those sham $50 meetings in order to get 10 nights and easily qualify for G/P without even having to log in one bed night, but all it would take is for Corporate to qualify legitimate Reward Meetings with a minimum of say $250/per to put an end to this sham (and as to the allegation that whatever the hotel is charging is pure profit, wrong, as the properties actually pay for nights, just like they do for points), so please, PLEASE, keep on shouting and touting so this flaw is closed sooner than later.
Once upon a time, posters would shout and tout how they were taking the whole family to breakfast in the lounge until Marriott Corp tweeked that ability and specifically limited it to 1+1.
And now the shout and tout is about those sham $50 meetings in order to get 10 nights and easily qualify for G/P without even having to log in one bed night, but all it would take is for Corporate to qualify legitimate Reward Meetings with a minimum of say $250/per to put an end to this sham (and as to the allegation that whatever the hotel is charging is pure profit, wrong, as the properties actually pay for nights, just like they do for points), so please, PLEASE, keep on shouting and touting so this flaw is closed sooner than later.
Nov 22, 2015, 5:22 pm
#1061
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Once upon a time, resorts provided breakfast to G/Ps until so many posters shouted and touted that Marriott Corp put a quick end to this extra benefit.
Once upon a time, posters would shout and tout how they were taking the whole family to breakfast in the lounge until Marriott Corp tweeked that ability and specifically limited it to 1+1.
And now the shout and tout is about those sham $50 meetings in order to get 10 nights and easily qualify for G/P without even having to log in one bed night, but all it would take is for Corporate to qualify legitimate Reward Meetings with a minimum of say $250/per to put an end to this sham (and as to the allegation that whatever the hotel is charging is pure profit, wrong, as the properties actually pay for nights, just like they do for points), so please, PLEASE, keep on shouting and touting so this flaw is closed sooner than later.
Once upon a time, posters would shout and tout how they were taking the whole family to breakfast in the lounge until Marriott Corp tweeked that ability and specifically limited it to 1+1.
And now the shout and tout is about those sham $50 meetings in order to get 10 nights and easily qualify for G/P without even having to log in one bed night, but all it would take is for Corporate to qualify legitimate Reward Meetings with a minimum of say $250/per to put an end to this sham (and as to the allegation that whatever the hotel is charging is pure profit, wrong, as the properties actually pay for nights, just like they do for points), so please, PLEASE, keep on shouting and touting so this flaw is closed sooner than later.
MR used to participate in FT quite a bit years ago until they chose to create Marriott Insider (their own version of FT) and have pretty much abandoned FT. I'll bet there is also a healthy discussion over there about this benefit too.
Nov 22, 2015, 8:21 pm
#1062
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could be or is it that they still monitor but just do it without publishing inasmuch as both of the breakfast changes (at resorts and 1+1) have been implemented since they went on the QT
Nov 22, 2015, 8:43 pm
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Cheers. Sharon
Nov 22, 2015, 11:22 pm
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that's unfortunate for if you read the post of Marriott Concierge -
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marri...l#post22533882
of last year they actual say that Marriott Insider has no authority in behalf of Marriott but Concierge does.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marri...l#post22533882
of last year they actual say that Marriott Insider has no authority in behalf of Marriott but Concierge does.
Oh puhleeze - Marriott dropped FT like a hot potato a few years ago in favor of their (still inferior) MarriottInsiders. The sad note is the MI folk are, for the most part, still not empowered to handled things & half the time give incorrect information, which truly sucks given they work for the freeking company.
Cheers. Sharon
Cheers. Sharon
Nov 23, 2015, 12:17 am
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That is a risk at any time. But given this thread has been in existence since 2010, MR has had many opportunities to close the loophole and chosen not to. One of the main benefits provided by FT is the sharing of "tricks of the trade". This needs to be a two-way street or everyone will stop posting what they have found during their travels and dealings with MR.
MR used to participate in FT quite a bit years ago until they chose to create Marriott Insider (their own version of FT) and have pretty much abandoned FT. I'll bet there is also a healthy discussion over there about this benefit too.
MR used to participate in FT quite a bit years ago until they chose to create Marriott Insider (their own version of FT) and have pretty much abandoned FT. I'll bet there is also a healthy discussion over there about this benefit too.
I can't see people having too many 'meetings' in a year anyway. The credit card gives 15 nights plus figure at least 5 more nights/yr in card spend. Add on 20 nights BIB and one would only need one meeting to hit Gold which is the program's sweet spot.
It's a great tool for someone who's had a bad travel year but will be resuming travel in the next year. But the use of this tool is fairly limited, as it's not a help in trying to get LT Gold/Plat; too few points generated through meetings. If one's shooting for LT Gold/Plat, it would be better to do manufactured spend on the credit card to generate points.
And I fully agree that FT is about sharing this type of information.