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This thread refers to the various Marriott brands within a specific geographic area. Marriott Bonvoy hotels in XX usually have posts asking which property is better, etc. Trip reports are usually better suited in the property specific threads.
(Pre-2019) Marriott Bonvoy hotels in Shanghai, China
Aug 11, 2007, 12:22 am
#121
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Has anyone at least stayed at a Marriott Executive Apartments property? How does it compare to the JW Marriott Hotel? We are serioulsy considering changing our reservation from the Grand Hyatt and going for this "deal", but just want to make an informed decision. Any comments would be helpful, thanks.
Aug 11, 2007, 1:13 am
#122
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The Wuhan Ren has 5 Executive Apartments on the 5th floor. I have seen a couple of them and they have lots of space (living room, kitchen, bedroom)and look very nice. I would say the Wuhan property would easily compare with a JW in the States (and you would be getting a suite room instead of a normal sized hotel room).
I can't comment on the Shanghai location, but I would guess they are very nice. You might try asking your question in the China forum as there maybe someone there who knows more about the location and property.
I can't comment on the Shanghai location, but I would guess they are very nice. You might try asking your question in the China forum as there maybe someone there who knows more about the location and property.
Aug 12, 2007, 12:52 am
#123
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Go ahead, you made the right choice, JW Marriott is far better than Westin and Le Meridian, I used to stay there whenever possible, you will be plansantly surprised.
As for the Wuhan Rennaisance, it is a pretty new hotel and location wise quite far out from city center, the receptionists at the executive lounge require more training as they are not very familar handling with platinum members, wide selection of mineral water and drinks at the lounge but very slow internet connection
As for the Wuhan Rennaisance, it is a pretty new hotel and location wise quite far out from city center, the receptionists at the executive lounge require more training as they are not very familar handling with platinum members, wide selection of mineral water and drinks at the lounge but very slow internet connection
Aug 12, 2007, 4:19 am
#124
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Thanks hhoope01 and hamishliu for the replies. The JW Marriott does sound very good, and having done a search on this board on the property, it does sound highly recommended. hamishliu, have you had any experience with the Executive Apartments, however? What I'm curious about is if there is a drop-off in quality from the hotel rooms to the apartments?
Aug 28, 2007, 9:24 pm
#125
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 423
Well I posted this already in the China board, but thought I'd share this here as well since it concerns the Marriott. I just returned from my trip last night and I have to say our Executive Apartment at the JW Marriott, Tomorrow Square, was very, very nice. For only $337 a night, it was definitely a steal.
The hotel and room was very new, and the interior was done in a very tasteful way. While modern, it wasn't minimalist, which doesn't often work out when traveling with the family. It felt very much like a proper apartment, with a very comfortable living room and dining area, as well as a full-sized kitchen with a washer/dryer combo. We loved the floor-to-ceiling windows. While I believe they reserve the Bund/Pudong views for the three bedroom apartments (which are available only for long-term stays, i.e. over 30 days), the Puxi view we had was still wonderful, particularly at night.
The bedrooms were also great, with the master bedroom having a very comfortable bed. There was also a walk-in closet in that room, as well as a separate dressing area with lounge chaise. The second bedroom is a bit smaller, with a pull-out sofa bed, but was good enough for our nanny. They also provided a complimentary cot for our one-year old. Also, both bedrooms and the living room have televisions so there were three TVs in total.
The two bathrooms were also of decent size, with the master having a bath and a shower in the guest. The decor was very nice, and the fixtures felt very new.
What really impressed us was the service. We loved the single red service button on the phone, in which they would take care of all your needs, from room service and concierge requests, to housekeeping and limo service. We were never put on hold or transferred to another department. From the check-in in which the receptionist was very courteous and even escorting us to our room, to the pool staff who were always friendly and smiling, the staff was very well trained. Having traveled through China quite a bit, I can say this is not often the case in the country, even at some of the top hotels, so we were very pleased.
The facilities at the hotel are great as well. We loved the indoor and outdoor pools, which are right next to each other, and also the two smaller kiddie pools, which were perfect for our daughter. The sun beds were also very good quality, with terry cloth pillow and covering, and the poolside food service was very quick and efficient, and the food above-average for city hotels. They also had a very decent-sized gym, as well as a nicely appointed Business Center, all near the same area, though it only had three workstations with Internet. What we found very convenient were the ground elevators that went directly the apartment floors, unlike for the hotel guests, which I believe have to first go to the lobby on the 38th floor, before taking another elevator to the hotel floors.
We didn't visit any hotel restaurants while we stayed there, as we tried to take as much advantage of Shanghai's culinary scene as possible, but we did order room service one night to eat in our dining room, and the food was fine. As I mentioned before, the poolside food service was also good.
As a guest of the Executive Apartments, we didn't have club access, but we could enter the residents' lounge, which had some free drinks and coffee available, but also a pool table, which we used one night. I thought that was a nice touch. They also had a Mandara Spa, which unfortunately we didn't have the opportunity of using, but we did take a look inside and it was well-done, with a distinct Thai feel.
Overall, we were very happy with our stay. Even if the cost wasn't so reasonable, we still would have been very happy. But with the room rates being what they are, the Marriott Executive Apartments at Tomorrow Square will definitely be our first choice of hotel the next time we visit Shanghai.
The hotel and room was very new, and the interior was done in a very tasteful way. While modern, it wasn't minimalist, which doesn't often work out when traveling with the family. It felt very much like a proper apartment, with a very comfortable living room and dining area, as well as a full-sized kitchen with a washer/dryer combo. We loved the floor-to-ceiling windows. While I believe they reserve the Bund/Pudong views for the three bedroom apartments (which are available only for long-term stays, i.e. over 30 days), the Puxi view we had was still wonderful, particularly at night.
The bedrooms were also great, with the master bedroom having a very comfortable bed. There was also a walk-in closet in that room, as well as a separate dressing area with lounge chaise. The second bedroom is a bit smaller, with a pull-out sofa bed, but was good enough for our nanny. They also provided a complimentary cot for our one-year old. Also, both bedrooms and the living room have televisions so there were three TVs in total.
The two bathrooms were also of decent size, with the master having a bath and a shower in the guest. The decor was very nice, and the fixtures felt very new.
What really impressed us was the service. We loved the single red service button on the phone, in which they would take care of all your needs, from room service and concierge requests, to housekeeping and limo service. We were never put on hold or transferred to another department. From the check-in in which the receptionist was very courteous and even escorting us to our room, to the pool staff who were always friendly and smiling, the staff was very well trained. Having traveled through China quite a bit, I can say this is not often the case in the country, even at some of the top hotels, so we were very pleased.
The facilities at the hotel are great as well. We loved the indoor and outdoor pools, which are right next to each other, and also the two smaller kiddie pools, which were perfect for our daughter. The sun beds were also very good quality, with terry cloth pillow and covering, and the poolside food service was very quick and efficient, and the food above-average for city hotels. They also had a very decent-sized gym, as well as a nicely appointed Business Center, all near the same area, though it only had three workstations with Internet. What we found very convenient were the ground elevators that went directly the apartment floors, unlike for the hotel guests, which I believe have to first go to the lobby on the 38th floor, before taking another elevator to the hotel floors.
We didn't visit any hotel restaurants while we stayed there, as we tried to take as much advantage of Shanghai's culinary scene as possible, but we did order room service one night to eat in our dining room, and the food was fine. As I mentioned before, the poolside food service was also good.
As a guest of the Executive Apartments, we didn't have club access, but we could enter the residents' lounge, which had some free drinks and coffee available, but also a pool table, which we used one night. I thought that was a nice touch. They also had a Mandara Spa, which unfortunately we didn't have the opportunity of using, but we did take a look inside and it was well-done, with a distinct Thai feel.
Overall, we were very happy with our stay. Even if the cost wasn't so reasonable, we still would have been very happy. But with the room rates being what they are, the Marriott Executive Apartments at Tomorrow Square will definitely be our first choice of hotel the next time we visit Shanghai.
Aug 29, 2007, 3:23 pm
#126
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Do you receive nights credit for the Executive Apartments?
Sep 4, 2007, 7:12 am
#127
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 190
Renaissance Shanghai Yuyuan Hotel
Searched this forum for information, but only found the thread that said it was scheduled to open in 2008. It apparently opened early, supposedly in August 2007, and a search for late September shows good opening rates for rooms. Does anyone have any current information either about facility, rooms, construction finished, etc? Looking for any information to make a choice. Budget is somewhat limited, but this would work and sounds pretty centrally located (?) and a good option, if construction is complete. Many thanks.
Sep 26, 2007, 11:29 am
#128
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Any update?
Plan to use points for Beijing and Hong Kong on next trip.
Sep 26, 2007, 1:03 pm
#129
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Did they recently "upgrade" this hotel to a higher reward category? My recollection is that it was a Cat. 4. Now it's Cat. 5.
Too bad, because I also think you can get a free night up to Cat. 4 by applying for the Marriott credit card.
Too bad, because I also think you can get a free night up to Cat. 4 by applying for the Marriott credit card.
Sep 28, 2007, 2:17 pm
#130
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: US
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All HK/China Marriott/Renaissance have no such service charge any more.
JW Shanghai is Cat 5 now, and may go to 6 next year.
JW HK is Cat 6
However in shanghai, there is a brand new Renaissance Yuyuan Gardern, offering good reward value, it is a cat 3 now but far better than the other cat 3,4 hotels
JW Shanghai is Cat 5 now, and may go to 6 next year.
JW HK is Cat 6
However in shanghai, there is a brand new Renaissance Yuyuan Gardern, offering good reward value, it is a cat 3 now but far better than the other cat 3,4 hotels
Sep 29, 2007, 5:55 pm
#131
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I was planning on blowing the points for another stay at the JW Marriott, but I must say that this looks like a much better value now.
Oct 6, 2007, 3:30 pm
#132
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 238
So, this isn't the case worldwide ?
Thanks
Thanks
Dec 2, 2007, 3:25 pm
#133
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Notes on the Shanghai Renaissance Yuyuan
Here I sit, at 3:30am in Shanghai, sipping ginger ale and trying to deal with my jet lag. Seems like an opportune time to pass along some notes regarding the hotel I’m currently staying at, the newly opened Renaissance Yuyuan Garden.
First, some background. I’ve been a frequent visitor to Shanghai over the last year. This is my second stay at Renaissance Yuyuan (“RY” for brevity). I’ve also had two stays at the JW Marriott Tomorrow Square (“JW”) and three at the Shangri-La Pudong (“SL”). My stays are typically from 7 to 11 nights. I fight a huge case of jet lag every time, and I make use of onsite food and entertainment frequently. Probably my top three keys to a good stay are: Room cleanliness and quietness; Staff service level; and Quality lounges and restaurants. Location and price come after these in my judgements of where to stay.
RY is located in the Pu Xi district, close to Yuyuan Garden and the Bund. I work on the Pudong side of the river. The commute by taxi is reasonably easy for me, easier than from the JW to Pudong. The SL is on the Pudong side of the river so obviously for work that locations suits me best. However, for the nightlife, the RY is within walking distance of both the Xintiandi district and the Bund, which have my favorite restaurants and nightspots. I prefer these to the Nanjing Road area of the JW and the Pudong area of the SL for evenings.
The RY is a new hotel, and the facilities are correspondingly very clean and modern. The 17th-floor lounge is very nice, with quality meeting rooms and a reasonable drink and snack selection. It’s open 7 days a week and accessible to qualified guests 24 hours, although it’s not staffed during the overnight hours. The on-site restaurants are fine, although they do not measure up to the selection and quality at the JW or SL (but that’s a very high standard).
Internet connectivity at the RY is mixed. The public areas are wireless, and streaming content throughput is very fast. However, interactive web browsing and email retrieval has been very slow for me. In-room, wired connections are available, which have a similar performance profile, although both streaming and interactive content are served slower than in the public areas.
The rooms are very comfortable and quiet, with the high-quality beds I expect in a new Renaissance. The only in-room issue I’ve had is around the A/C performance, as it has been…spotty. A call to the staff rectifies it for a while, but I’ve had to make the call three times over two visits. The decorating choices in the rooms are, how should I say, interesting. Electric Blue carpet and a glass-walled bathroom with blinds. Hmmm. It is unique and for me doesn’t detract from the stay.
The JW has pretty much every hotel I have ever stayed at beat in terms of exercise facility, and its pool is very nice by Shanghai standards. The RY has a decent exercise facility and the pool is mediocre. Similarly, both the JW and SL have outstanding on-site spas, which are not matched IMO at the RY.
Service has been excellent, on a par with the JW, although both fall short of the SL in my opinion. I have had no issues whatsoever with the RY’s quality of service, the SL just seems to have more people falling over themselves to help guests.
The RY’s main selling point against the JW is price. At my rates and at this time, the RY rates are consistently between a third and a half of the JW’s rates, which is a huge difference. The SL rates usually fit in somewhere between the JW and the SL, although it kills me to stay there since I’m a points hog.
Some hints:
--If you’re not a Mandarin speaker (which I am not), by all means PRINT THE MANDARIN CHARACTER HOTEL NAME AND ADDRESS and take it with you on your flight. I have still not had a single cabdriver who can find the RY without it, either from PVG or from Pudong. Even the hotel doormen at the Hyatt/Shangrila/JW aren’t yet familiar with it, and I have heard stories of doormen sending the cabdrivers to the wrong place.
--If you’re Plat, I would recommend requesting a 17th floor room. The lounge is right down the hall, and is very handy for water, snacks, Tsing Tao, etc, at any hour.
--Bring a wireless router if you don’t like being tethered to your desk in the room for internet connectivity.
Overall, would rate this hotel somewhere around 7/10, with the JW being 9/10 and SL 8/10. But don’t take that wrong, I still have very few issues staying here and would gladly return again…as long as the JW rates are double or triple the RY. ^
Hope this helps, feel free to post other questions if you have them.
First, some background. I’ve been a frequent visitor to Shanghai over the last year. This is my second stay at Renaissance Yuyuan (“RY” for brevity). I’ve also had two stays at the JW Marriott Tomorrow Square (“JW”) and three at the Shangri-La Pudong (“SL”). My stays are typically from 7 to 11 nights. I fight a huge case of jet lag every time, and I make use of onsite food and entertainment frequently. Probably my top three keys to a good stay are: Room cleanliness and quietness; Staff service level; and Quality lounges and restaurants. Location and price come after these in my judgements of where to stay.
RY is located in the Pu Xi district, close to Yuyuan Garden and the Bund. I work on the Pudong side of the river. The commute by taxi is reasonably easy for me, easier than from the JW to Pudong. The SL is on the Pudong side of the river so obviously for work that locations suits me best. However, for the nightlife, the RY is within walking distance of both the Xintiandi district and the Bund, which have my favorite restaurants and nightspots. I prefer these to the Nanjing Road area of the JW and the Pudong area of the SL for evenings.
The RY is a new hotel, and the facilities are correspondingly very clean and modern. The 17th-floor lounge is very nice, with quality meeting rooms and a reasonable drink and snack selection. It’s open 7 days a week and accessible to qualified guests 24 hours, although it’s not staffed during the overnight hours. The on-site restaurants are fine, although they do not measure up to the selection and quality at the JW or SL (but that’s a very high standard).
Internet connectivity at the RY is mixed. The public areas are wireless, and streaming content throughput is very fast. However, interactive web browsing and email retrieval has been very slow for me. In-room, wired connections are available, which have a similar performance profile, although both streaming and interactive content are served slower than in the public areas.
The rooms are very comfortable and quiet, with the high-quality beds I expect in a new Renaissance. The only in-room issue I’ve had is around the A/C performance, as it has been…spotty. A call to the staff rectifies it for a while, but I’ve had to make the call three times over two visits. The decorating choices in the rooms are, how should I say, interesting. Electric Blue carpet and a glass-walled bathroom with blinds. Hmmm. It is unique and for me doesn’t detract from the stay.
The JW has pretty much every hotel I have ever stayed at beat in terms of exercise facility, and its pool is very nice by Shanghai standards. The RY has a decent exercise facility and the pool is mediocre. Similarly, both the JW and SL have outstanding on-site spas, which are not matched IMO at the RY.
Service has been excellent, on a par with the JW, although both fall short of the SL in my opinion. I have had no issues whatsoever with the RY’s quality of service, the SL just seems to have more people falling over themselves to help guests.
The RY’s main selling point against the JW is price. At my rates and at this time, the RY rates are consistently between a third and a half of the JW’s rates, which is a huge difference. The SL rates usually fit in somewhere between the JW and the SL, although it kills me to stay there since I’m a points hog.
Some hints:
--If you’re not a Mandarin speaker (which I am not), by all means PRINT THE MANDARIN CHARACTER HOTEL NAME AND ADDRESS and take it with you on your flight. I have still not had a single cabdriver who can find the RY without it, either from PVG or from Pudong. Even the hotel doormen at the Hyatt/Shangrila/JW aren’t yet familiar with it, and I have heard stories of doormen sending the cabdrivers to the wrong place.
--If you’re Plat, I would recommend requesting a 17th floor room. The lounge is right down the hall, and is very handy for water, snacks, Tsing Tao, etc, at any hour.
--Bring a wireless router if you don’t like being tethered to your desk in the room for internet connectivity.
Overall, would rate this hotel somewhere around 7/10, with the JW being 9/10 and SL 8/10. But don’t take that wrong, I still have very few issues staying here and would gladly return again…as long as the JW rates are double or triple the RY. ^
Hope this helps, feel free to post other questions if you have them.
Dec 2, 2007, 4:18 pm
#134
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: atl
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very interesting. I am staying at Shanghai's Renaissance Yangtze on an upcoming trip. It always comes out least expesnive of the group in Shanghai - (except the Cy of course). Will be paying 759RMB + serivice charge for weekend rate.
I still haven't figured out relative locations - and this will be my third trip there. This Ren is one of the two best that I stayed at ever ( the Sao Paulo was the other) for service, comfort, features, and repsonsiveness and nice lounge.
Where do you get the chinese character address to print out -- I looked for 30 minutes last night , in prep for my trip this week to the Ren Yangtze?
I still haven't figured out relative locations - and this will be my third trip there. This Ren is one of the two best that I stayed at ever ( the Sao Paulo was the other) for service, comfort, features, and repsonsiveness and nice lounge.
Where do you get the chinese character address to print out -- I looked for 30 minutes last night , in prep for my trip this week to the Ren Yangtze?
Dec 2, 2007, 5:50 pm
#135
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: MSP
Programs: DL DM, Marriott Plat, National Exec Elite
Posts: 1,357
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthrea...highlight=asia
Marriot really needs to do a better job with international Maps and local website address in the local language