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Originally Posted by ElevatorEnthusiast
(Post 36847584)
When I look at the Maldives, I see cash rates that make points worth far more than 1-2 cents per point. If the Ritz is 4K USD per night, 198K doesn’t sound like a bad valuation (if the Maldives is something you find desirable). I see plenty of Maldives properties that aren’t the Ritz for 100K or less.
I would be curious to hear of examples that aren’t the Maldives along with the comparison to the average cash rates at these properties. Edit to Add: I pulled up Tokyo in March, and the points amounts seem about the same, if not less, than what I was seeing last month at top properties. |
I have bookings for LA and Phoenix coming up. No price increases in the points required. Perhaps this means I should burn, baby, burn before I run into things...
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Several redemptions I've been considering are actually cheaper today than a few days ago. So it's not across the board. Seems like from the above, it's mostly high end properties that had outsized value and perhaps inflation adjusted for others. I think it's expected that redemption costs would gradually increase over time along with standard inflation in hotel prices. That said, it sucks if you've been waiting to pull the trigger and the price jumps.
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Originally Posted by The Narwhal
(Post 36849780)
Several redemptions I've been considering are actually cheaper today than a few days ago. So it's not across the board. Seems like from the above, it's mostly high end properties that had outsized value and perhaps inflation adjusted for others. I think it's expected that redemption costs would gradually increase over time along with standard inflation in hotel prices. That said, it sucks if you've been waiting to pull the trigger and the price jumps.
Seriously - every aspirational place I've got booked, have been looking at, and/or have booked in the last few years has gone up. The St Regis in Florence, the Gritti Palacein Venice, the Ritz in Tokyo, all much higher. I'd consider my Helsinki booking a bit more out there, not an aspirational property for most people. |
Originally Posted by dw
(Post 36849384)
Problem is, Hilton is not immune from this either. A substantial number of Hilton properties just had a roughly 10% increase a few weeks ago.
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Originally Posted by Happy Traveling Consultant
(Post 36849828)
I'm curious. Where are prices cheaper?
Seriously - every aspirational place I've got booked, have been looking at, and/or have booked in the last few years has gone up. The St Regis in Florence, the Gritti Palacein Venice, the Ritz in Tokyo, all much higher. I'd consider my Helsinki booking a bit more out there, not an aspirational property for most people. I double checked redemption rates in Helsinki, as I'll be there in May. The points price has increased a little, although I don't think by more than a thousand or so points per night. That could be related to this, or it's small enough that it's just typical ebb and flow. |
It seems to be an increase in the category maximum. The rest is likely fluctuation due to dynamic pricing.
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Originally Posted by The Narwhal
(Post 36850192)
This was for the JW Marriott in Guadalajara - not really an aspirational property but it is a very solid redemption rate.
I double checked redemption rates in Helsinki, as I'll be there in May. The points price has increased a little, although I don't think by more than a thousand or so points per night. That could be related to this, or it's small enough that it's just typical ebb and flow. Ok, someone mentioned RC Tokyo, that does seem to have inched up across the board. Tant pis. I'd rather try Mesm next time I'm in Tokyo anyway. Trying to deduce a system-wide trend here seems an exercise in guesswork and speculation so property-specific, it seems the threads of those hotels that have shot up drastically would be more appropriate avenues for such a discussion. |
Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
(Post 36849706)
I have bookings for LA and Phoenix coming up. No price increases in the points required. Perhaps this means I should burn, baby, burn before I run into things...
Phoenix in March gives you very nice CPP in the lower/middle brands but it's nothing like redeeming for Maldives. |
Originally Posted by pinniped
(Post 36850903)
Looks like this may be something that's hit the top end of the aspirational properties, which still sucks since so many of us like to redeem those awards.
Phoenix in March gives you very nice CPP in the lower/middle brands but it's nothing like redeeming for Maldives. |
Some of my local hotels still show good value per point, but wondering if I should just convert all my Marriott points into United Mileage points instead?
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Originally Posted by iluvdoco
(Post 36851216)
Some of my local hotels still show good value per point, but wondering if I should just convert all my Marriott points into United Mileage points instead?
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Originally Posted by iluvdoco
(Post 36851216)
Some of my local hotels still show good value per point, but wondering if I should just convert all my Marriott points into United Mileage points instead?
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Originally Posted by 80proofGalleyCart
(Post 36851234)
Based on what evidence provided in this thread of any meaningful devaluation to award nights that you should care about -- when you've already noted hotels in your scope haven't budged?
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Originally Posted by iluvdoco
(Post 36851275)
Well I don't just stay at my local hotels. For my planned overseas trips this year, I have noticed devaluations and generally poor points redemptions.
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