IMO there are more important issues.....


Returning to the PdG debate, one should realize that breakfast standards are somewhat cultural, although western chain hotels in Asia invariably offer a western breakfast option. In most of Europe (England/Ireland being a notable exception with their famous English breakfast including bacon, fish, hot tomatoes, etc.), breakfast is cold. In Spain, typically one has a pastry and coffee which was also the norm in France until more recently with juice usually being included in a continental breakfast. To me, a good French breakfast is freshly squeezed juice, really good croissants with butter and jam, maybe pain au chocolat or a brioche and some baguette slices if one is starving. A few places also include a glass of champagne in their breakfast buffet. In Germany, I would add cheeses and cold meats and expect much more hearty bread, plus yogurt and (cold) hard boiled eggs. Having (hot) eggs and (hot) bacon/ham/sausage is the definition of an American breakfast (almost always served with wonderbread-like toast rather than good interesting bread and pastries).

PdG has a fancy and extremely good cold breakfast. It's elegant and it's normally expensive. I don't see any reason to complain.

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IDK the right answer but since I usually workout before breakfast I’d really like to have a source of protein at the meal. And I think protein is a good differentiator between a snack and a meal. I guess boiled eggs counts but barely.

I would agree with it being about the property nickel and diming people - you can see it in my review of the PdG. That said, I think it’s important to separate that from discussions as to whether a property meets the Marriott T&C’s - by offering the standard, high quality, super expensive breakfast in a Michelin starred restaurant, they are more than meeting the T&C’s.

Unless there are other hotels in the same block, this was flagged under some other brand about three decades ago when I stayed here. It is a strange location (the previous name made it sound like it was downtown) although IIRC there was a wonderful model railroad exhibit place and also the Dakota (jazz nightclub/restaurant, now in downtown Minneapolis) was in a small shopping center in the area. I sure hope it's been renovated in the intervening years, although even an extensive renovation cannot cure bad bones.