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Policy: 4.3.c.v: 4 p.m. Late Checkout. Platinum Elite Members and above may check out as late as 4 p.m. local time of the Participating Property. Members can request late checkout when making a reservation through central reservations, at check-in, via the mobile app (where available) or at any time during their stay. At Apartments by Marriott Bonvoy, Platinum Elite Members and above are guaranteed a late checkout up until 2 p.m. local time and may request to check out as late as 4 p.m. local time based upon availability. This benefit is guaranteed at all Participating Properties, except at resort and convention hotels and Design Hotels, where it is based upon availability. Marriott Vacation Club, Marriott Grand Residence Club, Sheraton Vacation Club, Westin Vacation Club, The Phoenician Residences, a Luxury Collection Residence Club, Scottsdale, and Ritz-Carlton Reserve are excluded from this benefit.
Participating Property = any property that participates in the Marriott Bonvoy program, subject to the exclusions below.
Brands and hotels where "Based Upon Availability" apply: Resort and convention hotels, Design Hotels, Apartments by Marriott Bonvoy
Not Available: Marriott Vacation Club, Marriott Grand Residence Club, Sheraton Vacation Club, Westin Vacation Club, The Phoenician Residences, a Luxury Collection Residence Club, Scottsdale, and Ritz-Carlton Reserve
Marriott Convention and Resort Hotels.
hotelprof 's Google Doc list of resorts and convention hotels: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Jek/edit#gid=0
Recommendations from Xero after an epic battle with Marriott/hotel.
Here is what I learnt if a hotel denies 4 PM checkout.
1) Call Marriott. Ask about the 4 PM checkout guarantee. If the phone agent claims it is based on availability, ask for a supervisor. If the supervisor also claims late checkout is based on availability, hang up and call again. Keep trying until you get an agent that acknowledges the 4 PM checkout guarantee.
2) When you get an agent that acknowledges the guarantee, ask for a case number. Then, let the agent know the hotel violating the policy. In addition, ask if the agent can call the hotel directly to explain the policy. They or their supervisor should have no issue calling the hotel to clarify policy with them.
3) If the agent is unable to get hold of the hotel or a hotel manager, call back tomorrow and follow up on the case number. When the phone agent picks up, immediately give them the case number. Again, have them call the hotel. By having a case number, you don't have to argue that the 4 PM checkout is "based on availability". The agent will immediately read the case and learn that the 4PM checkout is an actual guarantee.
4) (Optional) Keep the case number handy for future hotel reservations. If you get another hotel that denies you late checkout, call Marriott and give them the case number. The agent will realize that 4 PM checkout is a guarantee. Then state that another hotel is denying the benefit and the agent to call he hotel.
If the Marriott hotel you're staying at is in the US and isn't on this list, then you should be good to go for guaranteed 4 pm checkout - meaning if they deny you, they're in violation of the program.
Participating Property = any property that participates in the Marriott Bonvoy program, subject to the exclusions below.
Brands and hotels where "Based Upon Availability" apply: Resort and convention hotels, Design Hotels, Apartments by Marriott Bonvoy
Not Available: Marriott Vacation Club, Marriott Grand Residence Club, Sheraton Vacation Club, Westin Vacation Club, The Phoenician Residences, a Luxury Collection Residence Club, Scottsdale, and Ritz-Carlton Reserve
Marriott Convention and Resort Hotels.
hotelprof 's Google Doc list of resorts and convention hotels: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Jek/edit#gid=0
Recommendations from Xero after an epic battle with Marriott/hotel.
Here is what I learnt if a hotel denies 4 PM checkout.
1) Call Marriott. Ask about the 4 PM checkout guarantee. If the phone agent claims it is based on availability, ask for a supervisor. If the supervisor also claims late checkout is based on availability, hang up and call again. Keep trying until you get an agent that acknowledges the 4 PM checkout guarantee.
2) When you get an agent that acknowledges the guarantee, ask for a case number. Then, let the agent know the hotel violating the policy. In addition, ask if the agent can call the hotel directly to explain the policy. They or their supervisor should have no issue calling the hotel to clarify policy with them.
3) If the agent is unable to get hold of the hotel or a hotel manager, call back tomorrow and follow up on the case number. When the phone agent picks up, immediately give them the case number. Again, have them call the hotel. By having a case number, you don't have to argue that the 4 PM checkout is "based on availability". The agent will immediately read the case and learn that the 4PM checkout is an actual guarantee.
4) (Optional) Keep the case number handy for future hotel reservations. If you get another hotel that denies you late checkout, call Marriott and give them the case number. The agent will realize that 4 PM checkout is a guarantee. Then state that another hotel is denying the benefit and the agent to call he hotel.
If the Marriott hotel you're staying at is in the US and isn't on this list, then you should be good to go for guaranteed 4 pm checkout - meaning if they deny you, they're in violation of the program.
4pm Elite Checkout Guarantee (General Discussion)
#856
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Lynbrook, NY
Programs: Delta Ham Sandwich, IHG Spire, HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 83
Springhill Pittsburgh Southside
Stayed one night and was told 2pm was the latest they could do but offered me 10,000 points immediately. I took the points. They also let me keep my car there until late afternoon. Overall it was a good deal for me but I'm not sure what would have happened if I fought them. Points were in my account within two hours.
#857
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: BOS
Programs: AA EXP 1MM, DL PM, Bonvoy Titanium (Plat Life), HH G, Amtrak, B6, MR
Posts: 1,551
I know people generally post here to complain about properties not honoring it, so I thought I'd share that recently I had two properties honor 4pm checkout on request without any hesitation - Envoy in Boston and Renaissance Chicago Downtown. This is how it should be.
#859
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 161
Gainesville Residence Inn
Currently at Residence Inn Gainesville FL on a 5 night paid stay. I’m Titanium and asked for a 4 pm check out. Was offered 1pm. After back and forth and the hotel denying me, I called titanium line. Phone agent advised it wasn’t a guaranteed benefit and would do nothing for me. She even consulted a supervisor. The irony of course is this is the stay that gets me to lifetime platinum.
Residence Inn, Gainesville FL, and not during football season.
Simply dumbfounded what loyalty doesn’t get you.
Residence Inn, Gainesville FL, and not during football season.
Simply dumbfounded what loyalty doesn’t get you.
#860
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Florida, USA
Programs: Marriott Platinum; Hyatt Explorist; IHG Gold; Hilton Silver
Posts: 31
Marriott publishes listings for both resort and convention properties on the internet.
https://www.marriott.com/meeting-eve...conventions.mi
https://www.marriott.com/travel-expe...resort-hotels/
https://www.marriott.com/meeting-eve...conventions.mi
https://www.marriott.com/travel-expe...resort-hotels/
Basically, there are two searches you have to do on each of two different sites to find out if a Marriott property counts as a resort or convention hotel.
You can start with the Marriott site itself - specifically, the Marriott Hotel Directory. Go to Filters. There are two relevant ones here under Hotel Type: "Convention center" and "Resort". If your hotel shows up under either of these filters, it's exempt from the 4 pm guarantee. (Yes, there's only 2 on this directory that are actually classified as "Convention center" hotels...) But we're not done yet.
Next, head to Marriott Bonvoy Events. Punch in your location, then switch to List view. (This is required; some brands, such as Residence Inn and TownePlace Suites, will not show up in Map view due to a likely oversight.) On the left, scroll down to "Convention & Resorts." Again, two relevant filters: "Resorts" and "Convention & Resort Networks." Check each one (separately, not at the same time). If your hotel shows up under either of these filters, it's exempt from the 4 pm guarantee.
If it doesn't appear under ANY of those four filters (total), then 4 pm checkout for Platinums and above should be guaranteed.
Note that there is some overlap between these lists. But each list has at least some properties that don't show up on any others, so they all have to be checked.
In fact, I compiled a complete list (at the time) of all properties in the USA (50 states + DC) that are considered resort or convention hotels by the above methods. This list was accurate to the best of my knowledge as of August 2023, but any changes since then won't be accounted for.
It's ridiculous that one has to jump through all these hoops just to figure out if you're entitled to your benefit that's "guaranteed" (except when it's not). Beats me why they can't just publish a single list of all exempt properties like they used to.
#861
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Florida, USA
Programs: Marriott Platinum; Hyatt Explorist; IHG Gold; Hilton Silver
Posts: 31
Currently at Residence Inn Gainesville FL on a 5 night paid stay. I’m Titanium and asked for a 4 pm check out. Was offered 1pm. After back and forth and the hotel denying me, I called titanium line. Phone agent advised it wasn’t a guaranteed benefit and would do nothing for me. She even consulted a supervisor. The irony of course is this is the stay that gets me to lifetime platinum.
Residence Inn, Gainesville FL, and not during football season.
Simply dumbfounded what loyalty doesn’t get you.
Residence Inn, Gainesville FL, and not during football season.
Simply dumbfounded what loyalty doesn’t get you.
#863
Company Representative, Marriott Bonvoy
Join Date: Feb 2019
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy
Posts: 1,090
Currently at Residence Inn Gainesville FL on a 5 night paid stay. I’m Titanium and asked for a 4 pm check out. Was offered 1pm. After back and forth and the hotel denying me, I called titanium line. Phone agent advised it wasn’t a guaranteed benefit and would do nothing for me. She even consulted a supervisor. The irony of course is this is the stay that gets me to lifetime platinum.
Residence Inn, Gainesville FL, and not during football season.
Simply dumbfounded what loyalty doesn’t get you.
Residence Inn, Gainesville FL, and not during football season.
Simply dumbfounded what loyalty doesn’t get you.
We would like to help look into the 4 PM late checkout benefit at this hotel for you.
Please provide below information via email to [email protected].
Your full name
Marriott Bonvoy account number
Email address associated with your account
Reservation confirmation number and stay date
Please also include your Flyertalk user name in the email.
Best Regards,
Christina Z
Specialist, Social Media Care
Marriott International
#864
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 161
Hi Werty7777,
We would like to help look into the 4 PM late checkout benefit at this hotel for you.
Please provide below information via email to [email protected].
Your full name
Marriott Bonvoy account number
Email address associated with your account
Reservation confirmation number and stay date
Please also include your Flyertalk user name in the email.
Best Regards,
Christina Z
Specialist, Social Media Care
Marriott International
We would like to help look into the 4 PM late checkout benefit at this hotel for you.
Please provide below information via email to [email protected].
Your full name
Marriott Bonvoy account number
Email address associated with your account
Reservation confirmation number and stay date
Please also include your Flyertalk user name in the email.
Best Regards,
Christina Z
Specialist, Social Media Care
Marriott International
#865
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC MM E75, Marriott LT Ti, IHG Dia Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 15,521
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/35568929-post771.html
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Jek/edit#gid=0
#866
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: CT/NY
Programs: UA 1K/1MM, AA EXP, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat Amb
Posts: 6,020
In fact, I compiled a complete list (at the time) of all properties in the USA (50 states + DC) that are considered resort or convention hotels by the above methods. This list was accurate to the best of my knowledge as of August 2023, but any changes since then won't be accounted for.
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#867
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Florida, USA
Programs: Marriott Platinum; Hyatt Explorist; IHG Gold; Hilton Silver
Posts: 31
Arguably, the search process I described is more important than the list itself, since it'll be outdated before long (or might already be). I hope people will bookmark those sites and remember which filters to use in order to check for themselves if Marriott considers a particular hotel to be a resort or convention hotel.
Then if a hotel that's not listed there denies them late checkout, they can ask some variation of, "can you show me where your hotel is listed as a resort or convention hotel on either Marriott.com or the Bonvoy Events site?", showing them the sites and filters if necessary (as they likely won't know what you're talking about). That, plus the terms and conditions stating that it's only subject to availability at resorts and convention hotels (for Plat and higher), would hopefully be enough to convince them (if they're being honest and at least trying to play by the rules).
#868
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 161
Currently at Residence Inn Gainesville FL on a 5 night paid stay. I’m Titanium and asked for a 4 pm check out. Was offered 1pm. After back and forth and the hotel denying me, I called titanium line. Phone agent advised it wasn’t a guaranteed benefit and would do nothing for me. She even consulted a supervisor. The irony of course is this is the stay that gets me to lifetime platinum.
Residence Inn, Gainesville FL, and not during football season.
Simply dumbfounded what loyalty doesn’t get you.
Residence Inn, Gainesville FL, and not during football season.
Simply dumbfounded what loyalty doesn’t get you.
I have to give credit where credit is due. Thanks to the Lurker team. Lurker contacted the hotel to correct the error but the hotel never advised me that late checkout was granted so I checked out as the hotel required in the written chat. After checkout I posted a review via Marriott covering the late check out failure and a few other concerns. The hotel GM promptly followed up with an email and a few phone calls. We spoke and she acknowledged my concerns and apologized for the way the stay was handled. We came to a resolution and she was very receptive to ensuring elites are taken care of in her hotel. Very impressed with her contact and service recovery.