[Left Marriott 15 Nov 2018] St. Regis Princeville, Kauai, Hawaii [Master Thread]
Apr 6, 2017, 7:19 am
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Hanalei WakeUp Cafe was great when we were there 2 years ago. Just up the street from great great dinner at Bar Acuda
Apr 6, 2017, 11:42 am
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Apr 23, 2017, 5:47 pm
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St. Regis Princeville sold/closing/reflagging?
Just saw this in an email from thegardenisland.com, or TGI, "Kauai's newspaper since 1901".
http://m.thegardenisland.com/news/lo....html?mode=jqm
Drinks at sunset on the terrace overlooking Hanalei Bay was the perfect end to every spectacular day on vacation.
I wonder if rebranding will have any effect on the Westin villas, beyond reciprocity issues.
http://m.thegardenisland.com/news/lo....html?mode=jqm
Drinks at sunset on the terrace overlooking Hanalei Bay was the perfect end to every spectacular day on vacation.
I wonder if rebranding will have any effect on the Westin villas, beyond reciprocity issues.
Last edited by L1011toHNL; Apr 23, 2017 at 5:55 pm
Apr 24, 2017, 10:30 am
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Just saw this in an email from thegardenisland.com, or TGI, "Kauai's newspaper since 1901".
http://m.thegardenisland.com/news/lo....html?mode=jqm
http://m.thegardenisland.com/news/lo....html?mode=jqm
St. Regis Princeville to be sold. It appears as the 10 year mangement agreement is ending in May 2017. Does anyone know if Marriott plans to keep the property?
http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/n...-for-sale.html
http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/n...-for-sale.html
The Pacific Business News published a follow up article on December 5, 2016, three days after the initial article appeared:
Why the St. Regis Princeville Resort is up for sale
The St. Regis Princeville Resort and Makai Golf Club on Kauai’s North Shore is up for sale because the resort has experienced several years of improving performance, Marriott officials in Hawaii confirmed to Pacific Business News.
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Apr 24, 2017, 12:47 pm
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owner likely wants to keep management the same through sale
contrary to management companies, owners can/do get out of contracts
st regis does not franchise, luxury collection does
FS would require major investment (turned down san clemente venice)
interesting re FS and starwood, IIRC FS lanai were originally starwood
IIRC montage was also planning a hotel in the area
contrary to management companies, owners can/do get out of contracts
st regis does not franchise, luxury collection does
FS would require major investment (turned down san clemente venice)
interesting re FS and starwood, IIRC FS lanai were originally starwood
IIRC montage was also planning a hotel in the area
Apr 25, 2017, 1:18 pm
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Apr 25, 2017, 8:23 pm
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Most Starwood-branded hotels (including the St. Regis Princeville) are franchises owned by others.
Some of the franchised hotels are also managed by Starwood (including the St. Regis Princeville).
Apr 28, 2017, 9:30 pm
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i am quoting correct terminology directly
files.shareholder.com/downloads/MAR/4378649140x0x928232/FCD4F208-AD97-4A62-871F-1DCE71CA5318/MAR_Q4_2016_Press_Release_and_Schedules_FINAL.pdf
page A-5 >
files.shareholder.com/downloads/MAR/4378649140x0x928232/FCD4F208-AD97-4A62-871F-1DCE71CA5318/MAR_Q4_2016_Press_Release_and_Schedules_FINAL.pdf
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Managed
Franchised
Owned/Leased
Unconsolidated Joint Venture
Timeshare
Franchised
Owned/Leased
Unconsolidated Joint Venture
Timeshare
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Apr 28, 2017 at 9:51 pm
Apr 29, 2017, 1:52 am
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In the chart you reference, the title "Managed" would be clearer to the non-financial public if it were labeled "Franchised and Managed" in the same manner that the title "Franchised" would be clearer if it were labeled "Franchised and Not Managed". People in the business of analyzing financial statements understand that distinction.
Marriott labels the properties as they do because those two groups of properties have either a management agreement or a franchise agreement. Additionally, according to the company's 10-K filing, some of their management agreements allow the owner to revert to a franchise agreement if the owner elects to not renew Marriott's management of the property.
I'll stand by my 30+ years of SEC financial reporting in once again stating that managed properties are also franchised properties with the term "franchised" denoting a non-owned property utilizing one of the Marriott brands.
Apr 29, 2017, 8:55 am
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its established in courts that owners can cancel contracts, sometimes having to pay fee
and refusing to comply with investment/etc reqs of contract can get manager to cancel
some brands only manage and do not offer franchise (only) to owners
and refusing to comply with investment/etc reqs of contract can get manager to cancel
some brands only manage and do not offer franchise (only) to owners
Jun 5, 2017, 7:50 pm
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Just finished a 5 night stay here over the Memorial Day holiday. Was a SPG points redemption stay. Tried to apply SNAs but they were not available. Hotel was fully booked for the weekend. Property is a mixed bag in a stunning locale.
Pros:
Cons:
This property is all about the stunning views and I had a great time and really was able to relax. I know it's being sold and I think it's definitely ready for some more modern touches, improved dining options, and lanais.
Pros:
- Stunning views across the bay to the mountains
- Nice pool and always able to get a seating. Solid service from pool staff
- Room was very private, even with the windows open
- My room was well maintained and furnishings were good quality
- Loved the fresh juices at breakfast - delicious
Cons:
- The rooms at this property deserve nice lanais. The large window was ok, but prefer a nice outdoor space of my own in Hawaii
- Food offerings were dated and mediocre quality. Head to Hanalai Bay or elsewhere for dining.
- Beach is poor as is snorkeling. Walk over to Hideaway beach (tough walk down) near the entrance to the hotel which is lovely and good snorkeling
This property is all about the stunning views and I had a great time and really was able to relax. I know it's being sold and I think it's definitely ready for some more modern touches, improved dining options, and lanais.
Aug 24, 2017, 11:49 am
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This might be of interest, at least for some...
St. Regis Princeville Resort Debuts Private Dom Perignon Dinners
Please see:
http://www.luxurytraveladvisor.com/h...d-don-perignon
Cheers & Safe Travels. ^
St. Regis Princeville Resort Debuts Private Dom Perignon Dinners
The St. Regis Princeville Resort on Kauai, Hawaii recently announced a new collaboration with Dom Perignon to debut a private dining experience for guests.
The St. Regis Princeville Resort’s “Dinner with Dom Perignon” is a private dining experience for two in a romantic, outdoor setting enhanced by soft candlelight and Hawaiian torchlight, offering a customized seven-course menu paired with bottles of champagne.
The experience begins when the guests’ private wait staff greets them in the lobby with a lei presentation and escorts them to their secluded dining area where they will begin their dinner with a champagne toast (Dom Perignon 2004) and will enjoy a private sabering lesson, learning how to master the impressive art of sabering, a St. Regis tradition.
The St. Regis Princeville Resort’s “Dinner with Dom Perignon” is a private dining experience for two in a romantic, outdoor setting enhanced by soft candlelight and Hawaiian torchlight, offering a customized seven-course menu paired with bottles of champagne.
The experience begins when the guests’ private wait staff greets them in the lobby with a lei presentation and escorts them to their secluded dining area where they will begin their dinner with a champagne toast (Dom Perignon 2004) and will enjoy a private sabering lesson, learning how to master the impressive art of sabering, a St. Regis tradition.
Please see:
http://www.luxurytraveladvisor.com/h...d-don-perignon
Cheers & Safe Travels. ^