dweick

OK, so let them count them. What they do with them after that point is their problem. They don't have a choice, you owe a debt, the coins are legal tender. So tender them. They are free to unroll them, not unroll them, pack them in pickle jars or glue them to the walls.

If they don't like it, tough.

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Man Pays $21K Property Taxes In Coins
Frank Alford Says It's His Way Of Protesting Higher Taxes

Posted: 6:41 pm EST December 18, 2008
NEW ALBANY, Ind. -- A Floyd County man showed up at the city-county building in New Albany to pay his property taxes with more than $21,000 in coins.

Frank Alford, who owns several single-family rental homes, said it's his way of protesting higher taxes, reported WLKY-TV in Louisville, Ky.

When he walked into the Floyd County treasurer's office Thursday morning, a deputy clerk immediately recognized Alford because last year, he paid his taxes with dollar bills.

Alford loaded a garbage can with $21,333 in Susan B. Anthony dollar coins, and he carried a sign that read, "Property taxes gone wild."

"I'm letting them know I'm a very unhappy taxpayer," he said.

alanh

The issue with the self-checkout registers is that once the amount inserted goes over the purchase amount, it immediately makes change on any overage. So the maximum change you can get is 1 cent less than the last unit of currency you insert. If you're using $1 coins, that's 99c.

They do make change in paper (usually $1 and $5 bills), but unless you're inserting a $5 or larger you won't have enough change to need paper bills.

mrpickles

Excuse me, don't you belong on Fat Wallet? You signed into the wrong forum.

So let me get this right, you want to stifle education and keep people from knowing anything about it. Lets just wait until the forms arrive before passing any judgement on what the bulk program is or isn't.

By the way, I have no intrest in the bulk program just thought people would like to know. And I have no intrest on ordering any more coins. Too much trouble for too little payoff.

rajuabju

Well, I just placed my first order for $2,000.

And yes, I'm going to try and milk this for all the AMEX MR points I possibly can.

learningtime

The mint deal works for AMEX? I thought I was following this thread all along and read AMEX is a no-go.

rajuabju

From what I understand, reading through much of this thread, if you're doing it every month, it will be a problem. If its random orders / random amounts, I think most people are reporting success

learningtime

Thanks! Now how do I pass this up? This deal is such a hassle compared to the AA churn or bank funding. Although none of those deals work with AMEX. I'll report back if I do this and have success.

rajuabju

Well, dont take my word for it or anything.

I'm going to try it with this first purchase... if it works, super, if not, on to the next thing!

lin821

I believe you confuse Mint deal with Amex Traveler's Check deal (or other funding bank accounts threads).

learningtime

Probably right. BTW, I checked with my credit union on whether they could issue travelers checks using a CC (since they don't charge a fee to issue TCs). Yes, BUT, it will be treated as a cash purchase. No, thank you!

We tried now, didn't we?

MojaveJack

Yes, I've charged Presidential Dollars to my AMEX Blue.

cepheid

While one is free to pay a debt with any legal tender, including pennies, note that the recipient is also allowed to require the payer to remain present while all the coins are counted. This is ostensibly for the safety of the payer, so that there is a witness to the amount paid (otherwise the lender/merchant could easily state that the amount received was less than actually tendered), but in practice this can be a major hassle for the payer...

I'm neither encouraging nor discouraging paying taxes (property or income) with coins, just providing a warning that the tax clerk may require the payer to remain present as every coin is counted... and there's no requirement for them to do it quickly.

ehallison

I don't understand why you'd want to make a credit card payment at another bank. I am making CC payments on a CC issued by XYZ bank at the XYZ bank location. (which is not one of the CCs I'm using for the coin purchases; is that your concern?)

sparksals

No. We are using the chase BA card for the coin purchases. We do not have a Chase branch in our area to pay the bill in person with the coins. We do the majority of our banking with a well known bank for military personnel past and present and have each of their m/c, visa and amex products. We opened a local account at another bank in order to be able to deposit cash when we have it.

What I was wondering is if I could pay the Chase visa at the local bank with the coins. It is not a Chase Bank. I know before the net we could do this, but with the prominence of online bill pay, I'm not sure now.

ehallison

Ah, that makes sense. When I read your post, I thought you were trying to avoid the same bank - I didn't realize you didn't have a local branch.