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FreakingFlyer Jan 3, 2025 5:17 pm

2025 Shutdown Thread
 
Another year, another thread of woes.

But if you get shut down, you're working hard at it!

Last year's thread:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manu...wn-thread.html

FreakingFlyer Jan 3, 2025 5:20 pm

I'm looking at the US Bank Smartly card, mostly cuz the name is cool, but also I guess because it's 4% with the right hoops?

So if anyone wants to tell me what not to do to get shut down here when I abuse this thing like a rental car, I'm all ears.

JiGGiE Jan 6, 2025 8:46 am

Just a tangent to your post. I applied to the Smartly card but was denied due to a shutdown on a Fidelity 2% card. Apparently Elan is owned by US Bank and they levied a ban for all products in the future. Just adding my 2 cents about how MS unfriendly they are.

radonc1 Jan 6, 2025 3:11 pm


Originally Posted by FreakingFlyer (Post 36785353)
I'm looking at the US Bank Smartly card, mostly cuz the name is cool, but also I guess because it's 4% with the right hoops?

So if anyone wants to tell me what not to do to get shut down here when I abuse this thing like a rental car, I'm all ears.

If you have been reading the shutdown threads for a while, then you know that US Bank does not play well with MSers and shuts them down quite rapidly according to the DPs.

It may be why there isn't much activity discussing US Bank credit cards ;)

benny08 Jan 6, 2025 7:57 pm


Originally Posted by radonc1 (Post 36793739)
If you have been reading the shutdown threads for a while, then you know that US Bank does not play well with MSers and shuts them down quite rapidly according to the DPs.

It may be why there isn't much activity discussing US Bank credit cards ;)

USB never been MS friendly. When AR came out, they quickly shut people down over abusing 3x on mobile wallet. Zero chance they would put up with MS on the Smartly.

hotpancakes Jan 10, 2025 6:34 pm

I know I've asked in the past, but any word on shutdowns from buying gold bars @ Costco?

msp3 Jan 10, 2025 10:17 pm


Originally Posted by hotpancakes (Post 36806075)
I know I've asked in the past, but any word on shutdowns from buying gold bars @ Costco?

That depends on if you've maxed out 1 order and then applied Chase pay over time to it such that you got a 0% interest $40k loan...

jeffersun Jan 11, 2025 3:46 pm


Originally Posted by benny08 (Post 36794343)
USB never been MS friendly. When AR came out, they quickly shut people down over abusing 3x on mobile wallet. Zero chance they would put up with MS on the Smartly.

it's hilarious how people still hold onto the AR drama that lasted all of like a couple months. I got an AR on day one, MSed 90% of the MSR, never had an issue to this day. I know people who are still putting disgusting volume through this card at 3x. And you're probably going to say "you're the exception, be careful, live in fear". The shutdowns were the exceptions, and there hasn't been a single shutdown DP I've seen since 2018.

soy Jan 11, 2025 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by jeffersun (Post 36808058)
it's hilarious how people still hold onto the AR drama that lasted all of like a couple months. I got an AR on day one, MSed 90% of the MSR, never had an issue to this day. I know people who are still putting disgusting volume through this card at 3x. And you're probably going to say "you're the exception, be careful, live in fear". The shutdowns were the exceptions, and there hasn't been a single shutdown DP I've seen since 2018.

in fairness USB shutdown is not really a big deal. There are not many cards you are being locked out of if you get shut down

radonc1 Jan 12, 2025 4:26 am


Originally Posted by soy (Post 36808657)
in fairness USB shutdown is not really a big deal. There are not many cards you are being locked out of if you get shut down

Talking about the AR card is a waste of time. It is no longer available on the market, and therefore, unless someone does something really stupid with it, USB doesn't care. They are happy to collect their $400 and give you its benefits, which can be found discussed here.

Congrats on having the card. I agree with soy that the USB card offerings are very meh :o

However, it doesn't negate the numerous DPs on how USB plays with MSers, unfortunately. ;)

jeffersun Jan 12, 2025 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by radonc1 (Post 36809045)
Talking about the AR card is a waste of time. It is no longer available on the market, and therefore, unless someone does something really stupid with it, USB doesn't care. They are happy to collect their $400 and give you its benefits, which can be found discussed here.

Congrats on having the card. I agree with soy that the USB card offerings are very meh :o

However, it doesn't negate the numerous DPs on how USB plays with MSers, unfortunately. ;)

They also don't seem to care about spending thousands at a time at the gas station with the biz alt @ 4%. The worst thing I can imagine they do is cap gas purchases at $200 like the triple cash, or nerf it to $1k per quarter like the personal alt. Cash bonuses are the highest of any issuer, they almost always waive first year fee, and I'm not aware of any churning language. I don't ever expect to come in here with an actual shutdown story. Also the AR has basically paid every cardholder to keep the card open if you just take the 3 minutes to call them every time your AF posts.

exarkun Jan 31, 2025 4:25 pm

Anyone ever get unblacklisted from USB?

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manu...action-10.html

Scotttyd Feb 17, 2025 2:51 pm

I have heard rumblings of amex shutdowns today -anybody effected?

radonc1 Feb 17, 2025 3:54 pm


Originally Posted by Scotttyd (Post 36901597)
I have heard rumblings of amex shutdowns today -anybody effected?

Can you post some links or is this just unsupported suppositions?

Carpetchilli Feb 17, 2025 5:04 pm


Originally Posted by radonc1 (Post 36901774)
Can you post some links or is this just unsupported suppositions?

no links to post, it’s all in slack/telegram groups. Definitely legit though and seemingly Fluz related


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