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Old Jan 1, 2018, 10:53 am
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This is the thread for 2018. The previous discussion can be found here.

The 2019 thread can be found here

New to MO: Read this entire Wiki (Click to open) and all posts for some tips before asking common questions. It is best to know what you are doing before you try.
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Tested Gebit cards:
1. DO NOT WORK - Any Vanilla product affiliated with InComm or ITC Financial Services will not work for swipes over $49.99.
2. Visas issued by MetaBank work great.
3. MC issued by US bank work good, but you need to change payment type to debit before they enter the amount in the register. See below for details.
5. Gdot/sun work but take about an hour to activate.

NEW Limits as of 11/18 - 8K with ID every 24 hours. ID required for MO over 1K.
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Some tips for starting out:

All WM registers allow 4 debit swipes per transaction, but YMMV per store and cashier. Refer to cards as Debit cards.

Start slow and buy one MO with one Gebit to see how it works. Refer to cards as Debit, only this community calls them Gebits. Your store or cashier may have rules that other stores do not have, only allowing one swipe per trans or up to 4 swipes per trans. Read all the tips below and all the posts below before trying more advanced transactions. NO variety or design of VISA or MC Gebit's will ever auto-drain at Walmart so always tell them the amount you want to pay per card. Fee: 1K MO or less is usually 88 cents each, but ask or check the wall. Subtract the fee from the total or pay in cash. If a store says "no", thank them and try again another day with a different clerk.


Helpful details and tips for advanced transactions:

1. Cost:
1K MO fee is usually 88 cents each(Some states limit MO total to 750 or 950 and may have a different fee). Subtract fee from your total or pay in cash. Can buy two 1K MO in one transaction with 4 swipes for 88 cents x 2 in most states. NO variety or design of VISA or MC Gebit's will ever auto-drain at Walmart so always tell them the amount you want to pay per card.

2. Split payment transcations: You cannot successfully swipe more than 4 cards in a single transaction. If the cashier screws up and enters $50.00 instead of $500.00 (thus making it impossible for 4 swipes to complete the transaction), the transaction will need to be canceled. The funds should return to your cards right away but may take 24 hours, so note the time and person helping you. When a transaction is canceled during the trans, the money returns to the cards. If canceled after, the cash reg drawer opens and they pay you back in cash.

3. Split payment: The amount of each swipe needs to be entered by the cashier. Ask to "split the payment by $$$". The Gebit must have current balance of that amount or more otherwise slip with Error 51 will print out. Warning: (YMMV) It appears (my experience on 3 occasions during prepaid card load and buying MO in 2 different WMs) that after the debit card was charged no cash could be credited back to the card. Cashier should issue cash back. Keep the slip and contact manager if in doubt. Remember date, time and register if no slip.

4. Bad Printer: IF, by chance, you've swiped your GCs successfully, a receipt prints but the MO doesn't, make sure to ask to see the receipt and check near the bottom IF it says CHANGE/REFUND with a negative sign before the amount of GCs you swiped, that means the cashier must give you cash refund. Cashier may have to call for the cash dept manager to verify the refund. Some stores may outright give your cash refund immediately while there are others that will ask you to come back. Think twice before you buy MOs while on vacation or when you're in unknown to you territories for issues like this.

5. Kiosk: Very few Kate's can sell money orders anymore.>>>>Sometime 2016, a lot of WM supercenters have done away with Kate (kiosks that allows loading of prepaids/sell $500 MOs). As of today, MOST, if not ALL WMs, have replaced this with the regular slim ATM to check balance/withdraw money.

6. MCGC liquidation- The cashier should
not enter the amount first. Technically they just can't hit enter after entering the amount. Let the CSR know you need to swipe first and switch the payment type to debit, then swipe and hit "Cancel" or "Change Payment" to select "Debit" on the screen, enter the pin and have them enter the amount.

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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/attac...0&d=1461170080
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Old Apr 13, 2018, 6:46 pm
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Originally Posted by soy
Its a case of YMMV. I believe that Fuel and Movies are the hardest to get rid of, though I wonder would fuel work at supermarkets that have an associated gas station?
Somebody, somewhere must have data on this. With the fee on these Everywhere cards being significantly lower, there would be significant incentive for a big player to "figure it out" through trial and error.

But I guess the folks who know aren't talking.
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Old Apr 13, 2018, 7:01 pm
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Originally Posted by iahphx
Somebody, somewhere must have data on this. With the fee on these Everywhere cards being significantly lower, there would be significant incentive for a big player to "figure it out" through trial and error.

But I guess the folks who know aren't talking.
All I know is the dining and style work at a WM supercenter.
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Old Apr 13, 2018, 7:29 pm
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Originally Posted by wyogold
All I know is the dining and style work at a WM supercenter.
Grocery works too. There is no point trying Movies or Fuel since their max load is $100 for a $3.95 fee.
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Old Apr 13, 2018, 8:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Magic Pickles


Grocery works too. There is no point trying Movies or Fuel since their max load is $100 for a $3.95 fee.
Its hit or miss with these as some places don't work and you may get stuck. They're not useable everywhere so if you get stuck they're not easy to use as a regular vgc. And the fee is lower but loads up to $200 making them more expensive in the end and harder to use.
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Old Apr 13, 2018, 8:20 pm
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Originally Posted by tuphat
The extra beep isn't nearly as concerning as the pictures and voices I've started to hear , coming from the card terminal ...
I have noticed a beep but for some reason kinda think it's always been there. Ymmv
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Old Apr 13, 2018, 9:27 pm
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Originally Posted by iahphx
Somebody, somewhere must have data on this. With the fee on these Everywhere cards being significantly lower, there would be significant incentive for a big player to "figure it out" through trial and error.

But I guess the folks who know aren't talking.
I think many people did. Style Everywhere always worked for me at WMs, but I don't bother buying a lot during these promos, so I usually get just a few regular $200 VGCs (in my neck of the woods they are plentiful in most OD/OM stores, even on the last day of the promo)
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 1:34 pm
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Got the double beep last night in SE MI. Nothing else was concerning. Had a CSM I've had several times in the past, but she did make a comment that made it sound like the 500 splits have become more common in this store. I've pretty much been out of the game since November but it's time to start ramping back up.
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 1:57 pm
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All of my local WMs are dead for GCs. A couple of weeks ago my closest WM asked, for the first time, what kind of cards are you using? Told them the truth, and was told "no more GCs", "due to notice from Fraud department". But all seemed fine as the location a mile away still worked. A week later that one gave a "debit not available" notice. So I went to a long time go-to WM 5 miles away, and all was fine. Until 5 days ago, when I got that "debit not available" notice. Yesterday went to 5 locations up to 21 miles away, got that same notice at every one.
I know the cards are fine, as I cashed them out at a grocery store. So all of my local WMs have been hard coded to reject GCs, and strangely the CSRs haven't been told a thing about it. They are still assuming there is a problem with my cards or the pin. As more and more people try and fail to get MOs, they will figure it out I guess. But it would have made it easier on everyone if the CSRs knew up front, and saved us all the trouble of trying. Sigh...
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by RobertHanson
A week later that one gave a "debit not available" notice. So I went to a long time go-to WM 5 miles away, and all was fine. Until 5 days ago, when I got that "debit not available" notice. Yesterday went to 5 locations up to 21 miles away, got that same notice at every one.

I'm assuming this is VGC?

Originally Posted by RobertHanson
So all of my local WMs have been hard coded to reject GCs.
Scary stuff ...
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 2:11 pm
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Originally Posted by wyogold
I'm assuming this is VGC?

Scary stuff ...
Yes, the very same VGCs that worked just fine at the 3 closest locations several weeks ago. For now I've got a grocery store chain where half of the locations still work, but if they go the same way, I afraid my churning days are over.
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 2:28 pm
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Yes, the very same VGCs that worked just fine at the 3 closest locations several weeks ago. For now I've got a grocery store chain where half of the locations still work, but if they go the same way, I afraid my churning days are over.
Do you know if you can still load BB with VGC at those walmarts where MOs died?

If my WM dies for MO, I could still churn and get through MSRs, although regular MS for the points & cash would die.
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 2:28 pm
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Yes, the very same VGCs that worked just fine at the 3 closest locations several weeks ago. For now I've got a grocery store chain where half of the locations still work, but if they go the same way, I afraid my churning days are over.
Do you do any BPs?

I wonder if those are hard coded too in your area.
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 2:30 pm
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I did buy the "Style" Visa gift cards at Office Depot during the sale and they unloaded fine at Walmart, both at a regular store and a supercenter. Good to know for the next sale.

FWIW, I've also seen these Style cards (and a similar "Groceries Everywhere" card) at Lowe's, where many of us have been targeted by AMEX Offers for $10 off $50. But I'd rather buy a $50 Amazon card for $40 than a $200 Visa card for $195.
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by iahphx
FWIW, I've also seen these Style cards (and a similar "Groceries Everywhere" card) at Lowe's, where many of us have been targeted by AMEX Offers for $10 off $50. But I'd rather buy a $50 Amazon card for $40 than a $200 Visa card for $195.
I had about 10 cards with the 10 off. So it was around $165 for $200!
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 3:12 pm
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Going to WM to unload $16k. Hopefully nothing is hard coded yet.
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