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Old Jan 1, 2018, 10:53 am
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This is the thread for 2018. The previous discussion can be found here.

The 2019 thread can be found here

New to MO: Read this entire Wiki (Click to open) and all posts for some tips before asking common questions. It is best to know what you are doing before you try.
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Tested Gebit cards:
1. DO NOT WORK - Any Vanilla product affiliated with InComm or ITC Financial Services will not work for swipes over $49.99.
2. Visas issued by MetaBank work great.
3. MC issued by US bank work good, but you need to change payment type to debit before they enter the amount in the register. See below for details.
5. Gdot/sun work but take about an hour to activate.

NEW Limits as of 11/18 - 8K with ID every 24 hours. ID required for MO over 1K.
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Some tips for starting out:

All WM registers allow 4 debit swipes per transaction, but YMMV per store and cashier. Refer to cards as Debit cards.

Start slow and buy one MO with one Gebit to see how it works. Refer to cards as Debit, only this community calls them Gebits. Your store or cashier may have rules that other stores do not have, only allowing one swipe per trans or up to 4 swipes per trans. Read all the tips below and all the posts below before trying more advanced transactions. NO variety or design of VISA or MC Gebit's will ever auto-drain at Walmart so always tell them the amount you want to pay per card. Fee: 1K MO or less is usually 88 cents each, but ask or check the wall. Subtract the fee from the total or pay in cash. If a store says "no", thank them and try again another day with a different clerk.


Helpful details and tips for advanced transactions:

1. Cost:
1K MO fee is usually 88 cents each(Some states limit MO total to 750 or 950 and may have a different fee). Subtract fee from your total or pay in cash. Can buy two 1K MO in one transaction with 4 swipes for 88 cents x 2 in most states. NO variety or design of VISA or MC Gebit's will ever auto-drain at Walmart so always tell them the amount you want to pay per card.

2. Split payment transcations: You cannot successfully swipe more than 4 cards in a single transaction. If the cashier screws up and enters $50.00 instead of $500.00 (thus making it impossible for 4 swipes to complete the transaction), the transaction will need to be canceled. The funds should return to your cards right away but may take 24 hours, so note the time and person helping you. When a transaction is canceled during the trans, the money returns to the cards. If canceled after, the cash reg drawer opens and they pay you back in cash.

3. Split payment: The amount of each swipe needs to be entered by the cashier. Ask to "split the payment by $$$". The Gebit must have current balance of that amount or more otherwise slip with Error 51 will print out. Warning: (YMMV) It appears (my experience on 3 occasions during prepaid card load and buying MO in 2 different WMs) that after the debit card was charged no cash could be credited back to the card. Cashier should issue cash back. Keep the slip and contact manager if in doubt. Remember date, time and register if no slip.

4. Bad Printer: IF, by chance, you've swiped your GCs successfully, a receipt prints but the MO doesn't, make sure to ask to see the receipt and check near the bottom IF it says CHANGE/REFUND with a negative sign before the amount of GCs you swiped, that means the cashier must give you cash refund. Cashier may have to call for the cash dept manager to verify the refund. Some stores may outright give your cash refund immediately while there are others that will ask you to come back. Think twice before you buy MOs while on vacation or when you're in unknown to you territories for issues like this.

5. Kiosk: Very few Kate's can sell money orders anymore.>>>>Sometime 2016, a lot of WM supercenters have done away with Kate (kiosks that allows loading of prepaids/sell $500 MOs). As of today, MOST, if not ALL WMs, have replaced this with the regular slim ATM to check balance/withdraw money.

6. MCGC liquidation- The cashier should
not enter the amount first. Technically they just can't hit enter after entering the amount. Let the CSR know you need to swipe first and switch the payment type to debit, then swipe and hit "Cancel" or "Change Payment" to select "Debit" on the screen, enter the pin and have them enter the amount.

Debit codes PDF
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/attac...0&d=1461170080
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Old Oct 13, 2018, 10:25 pm
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Originally Posted by knopfler


It’s an estimated guess. Might be more/might be less. But what I do know for sure is I see the same whales buying $30k of WM, then citcle around to the back of the line to buy more. I see the same whales liquidating them in multiple consecutive transactions. If anyone gets behind them in line, they will finish that transaction then circle around to the back of the line and get in queue for more.
I'm really surprised there are stores that allow that, especially when they're abused like that
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Old Oct 14, 2018, 12:07 am
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Be surprised, but it’s real, and there are plenty doing way more than 30k. There are people doing millions a month. They won’t be soon.
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Old Oct 14, 2018, 1:14 am
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Any other ideas besides WM for plastic recycling? There is a schnucks near me where I can buy MOs but its a $5 fee per MO with no splits.

I may have to decrease volume or start only MSing for bonuses from now on. I was doing 8K a week. Might have to step down to 2K a week.

Because if this, I forsee in the near future (2020 prehaps) WMs will be hardcoded at the register for gdebits.

after that, theres pretty much no easy way to MS at least in my neck of the woods. Not sure what others are using but would love to hear it.
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Old Oct 14, 2018, 3:50 am
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Originally Posted by in4tar
I guess we'll have to wait until October 16 to see if that's nationwide or store-specific
I have no doubt that it’s nationwide. All my friendly WMs got the memo and told me about it.
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Old Oct 14, 2018, 7:01 am
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DoC posted a scan of the memo:
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/memo-...0-per-30-days/
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Old Oct 14, 2018, 11:59 am
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Originally Posted by DiMAn0684
I'm thinking about getting another EIN, to use only for MO purchases at WM. Only concern would be if this would somehow open me up to being taxed on the gains. It's still a rebate, so I don't think it would be a tax issue. Anyone else care to speculate (wildly or otherwise?)
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Old Oct 14, 2018, 1:26 pm
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Asked my friendly WMNM CSR about it and she said they had not received the memo, so maybe WMNM's will not be affected. At least not on the same date. The memo that was shown to me was at a WM SC. Anyone seen the memo at a WMNM?
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Old Oct 14, 2018, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by briang191


You'll have to complete the emsar each time you complete this transaction.
many stores already require this on any amount of MO using non-personal Gebit. It takes a lot of time
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Old Oct 14, 2018, 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by knopfler
Asked my friendly WMNM CSR about it and she said they had not received the memo, so maybe WMNM's will not be affected. At least not on the same date. The memo that was shown to me was at a WM SC. Anyone seen the memo at a WMNM?
I take [D]Quake of Crud with a mega gain of salt. Most of what is posted is nada at my WM. #ClickBate at best.
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Old Oct 14, 2018, 8:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Renes Points
I take [D]Quake of Crud with a mega gain of salt. Most of what is posted is nada at my WM. #ClickBate at best.
I saw the memo at WMNM earlier today
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Old Oct 14, 2018, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by tuphat
Tried to follow the above convo, but I gave up. Personally, what I'd like to know is if/how supposed new policy affects the following:

Buying 2 MOs for $999.12, paying with 4x $500 GCs.
Reading the posted memo, I think my practice will change to 1 MO for $999.11, still pay with 4x $500 GCs, to avoid reporting.

ETA: Doh! Senior moment, s/b 2x.

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Old Oct 14, 2018, 9:08 pm
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Originally Posted by tuphat
Reading the posted memo, I think my practice will change to 1 MO for $999.11, still pay with 4x $500 GCs, to avoid reporting.
walmart will love selling you a $999 money order for $2000
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Old Oct 14, 2018, 10:31 pm
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Originally Posted by tuphat
Reading the posted memo, I think my practice will change to 1 MO for $999.11, still pay with 4x $500 GCs, to avoid reporting.
I'll give you an even better deal: send me 3 x 500 GCs, and I'll mail you a 1K MO! As many times as you want ...
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Old Oct 15, 2018, 12:17 am
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Originally Posted by wyogold
I'm really surprised there are stores that allow that, especially when they're abused like that
Its common courtesy to offer to get back in line, especially if its growing or long. I've done it plenty of times, it keeps the people in line from complaining and keeps you on the clerks good side.
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Old Oct 15, 2018, 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by mhdena
Its common courtesy to offer to get back in line, especially if its growing or long. I've done it plenty of times, it keeps the people in line from complaining and keeps you on the clerks good side.
This. Have some decency folks.
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