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Old Jun 22, 2013, 10:42 am
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There is a new thread for 2017: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manufactured-spending/1819569-pin-available-now-visa-mc-prepaid-debit-cards-2017-a.html

Federal Reserve interpretation of Dodd-Frank financial reform regulations has resulted in Visa/MC gift cards getting PINs as of April 1, 2013.


Setting PINS
  • MetaBank VISA or Sunrise VISA -use the last four digits of the card number (or to set personal PIN call 888-524-1283)
  • US Bank VISA and Mastercard - Newer cards come with a PIN printed on cardstock inside the package. To set/reset PIN, call 866-952-5653. One person reports: VISA that has pre-set PIN locks PIN on first use if not previously reset; always call to set PIN before use. If you forget to reset the pin and you can't unload the funds to your BB, call the toll free # and ask rep. to "reset" the card and they will do some magic and you should then be able to unload the funds at WM.
  • Vanilla VISA and OneVanilla(not MyVanilla, etc) - selection of 4 digits on the first transaction becomes the PIN

At Walmat, many MCs default to credit(and fail) and require pressing a button to change the payment type to debit. Here are the workarounds:

Old POS systems (monochrome black on green terminals and replacement color terminals):
1a. Screen shows "Insert or Swipe Card Quickly" with "Espanol" button in lower right (note if your screen blinks)
1b. Swipe card
1c. Screen shows "Waiting for cashier..." with with working animation in lower center and "Cancel" button in lower right
2. Press "Cancel" on the screen or red button on pad (if your screen blinks, do not hit button until after blink)
3. Press "ATM/DEBIT" from upper left
4. Press "No Cash Back"
5a. Enter PIN
5b. Screen shows "Waiting for cashier..."
6. Cashier hits blue (not green) Debit button on their side.

New POS systems (color terminal):
1. Swipe GC
2. Press "Change Payment" on screen (Yellow button on pad should also work, but screen works better for some. Timing is critical.)
3. Press "DEBIT"
4. Press "No Cash Back"
5. Enter PIN - Screen showing another 'Waiting for cashier...'.
6. Ask Cashier to hit blue color Debit button on the screen

When splitting transactions among multiple cards at a Walmart register, make sure to have the cashier hit the debit button on their physical keypad. If they hit the debit button on the touchscreen, it will not work. If your transaction got declined, try having the cashier hit 'Debit' using the physical keypad on the right of the screen.

As of 6/19/2014, Walmart rejects Debit attempts above $49.99 on all cards issued by InComm/ITC Financial Services, namely all Vanilla VISA and OneVanilla. There is no workaround.


Error Messages
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Not enough funds available to cover whatever amount was typed in, or most likely NOT typed in.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again.
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Old Apr 5, 2013, 8:14 pm
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My favorite play right now is the $1000 visa card from gift card mall. Be careful with declines though---their website will lock you out for 30 days. Customer service says to make sure everything on the order matches the credit card billing address exactly.
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Old Apr 5, 2013, 8:25 pm
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This could be a good news. Will try the USPS thing and get a money order to my bank soon. If only it worked with Amex gc!
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Old Apr 5, 2013, 8:40 pm
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Edit the first post and remove the picture. Be vague. Just my 2 cents...
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Old Apr 5, 2013, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Bender464
That isn't the card[s] we're referring to in this thread.
No kidding. Thanks for helping us push the envelope!

Dodd-Frank didn't refer to Bancorp or MetaBank specifically - there are lots of other Visa/MC gift cards out there.
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Old Apr 5, 2013, 9:14 pm
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Originally Posted by iqbalt80
Edit the first post and remove the picture. Be vague. Just my 2 cents...
agree
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Old Apr 5, 2013, 9:14 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
I think we need to take the thread underground as I'm sure this will end up on blogging sites pretty soon and next thing we know, Walmart and USPS will stop accepting debit cards for money orders.
For my sake, I'm grateful for the OP's post. And for my continued sake, I too wouldn't mind seeing it now go underground. But that's not the nature of this place and I'm grateful for that too since I haven't always been first in on a scheme. Nevertheless, I think your concern is valid and inevitable.
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Old Apr 5, 2013, 9:42 pm
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OP should've exercised some discretion here -- hint to the deal rather than spelling it out in the open. It's already one step away from circles and arrows and it hasn't even hit the first blog yet...
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Old Apr 5, 2013, 10:20 pm
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Originally Posted by gloreglabert
OP should've exercised some discretion here -- hint to the deal rather than spelling it out in the open. It's already one step away from circles and arrows and it hasn't even hit the first blog yet...
wait till tomorrow!
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Old Apr 5, 2013, 10:26 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
I plan on just depositing them to my bank - nothing wrong or illegal about what I'm doing. If my bank wants to know, I'll just tell them exactly what's going on and if they don't like it, I'll take my business elsewhere.

Each USPS money order is max 1k in denomination, but you can buy up to 10K per day - anything over 3k requires a form, but if you stay under 3k, that is not a problem.
Be prepared to do a lot of "taking" of your business elsewhere. Just saying.
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Old Apr 5, 2013, 10:57 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
I plan on just depositing them to my bank - nothing wrong or illegal about what I'm doing. If my bank wants to know, I'll just tell them exactly what's going on and if they don't like it, I'll take my business elsewhere.

Each USPS money order is max 1k in denomination, but you can buy up to 10K per day - anything over 3k requires a form, but if you stay under 3k, that is not a problem.
Why not just write out the m/o's to your credit card, and pay your bill? That way you aren't depositing anything. Chase has never had an issue accepting my m/o's for payment in the branch. Are you guys worried that Chase or Citi will figure out that you are somehow buying m/o's with their cc via gc's?
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Old Apr 6, 2013, 2:27 am
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This is good news but doesn't really help those of us without a WM nearby. Never been a fan of doing the whole MO thing with USPS. In a way, this news is like hearing that VRs are a plentiful in another part of the country.
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Old Apr 6, 2013, 3:56 am
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there are a few other places besides USPS and WM.
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Old Apr 6, 2013, 4:04 am
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Originally Posted by skibum7732
there are a few other places besides USPS and WM.
Sure, there are many places, but are they as cheap as WM?
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Old Apr 6, 2013, 4:39 am
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Well look at that...a massive circles and arrows fest already (I'll leave you to guess the blog...). Complete with absolutely ridiculous levels of detail on how to do everything from buy MO's to clicking on links online.

This place really needs to start exercising some discretion.
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Old Apr 6, 2013, 5:32 am
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Originally Posted by gloreglabert
Well look at that...a massive circles and arrows fest already (I'll leave you to guess the blog...). Complete with absolutely ridiculous levels of detail on how to do everything from buy MO's to clicking on links online.

This place really needs to start exercising some discretion.
I genuinely would not worry about it. Same blog posted similar article on the ST debit card, which is the same play, maybe 12 months ago. That one is still going strong. The MO deal is just too much time and effort for the average reader of a blog aimed at newbies
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