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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 12:44 pm
  #7471  
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 299
Originally Posted by jeremybe
Read the WIKI as well as the last 15 - 20 pages - Am I correct in reading that AMEX is currently coding as Purchase? I can use Serve to meet minimum spend of 5K on Amex Platinum but I will not receive the extra 5K in Membership Rewards Points for the purchases?

Thanks
You are correct. It will count towards min. spend, but you will not earn points.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 3:00 pm
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Orange County CA
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Originally Posted by frudd38
Bold doesn't work anymore since it's a charge card.
Thanks, frudd38, I guess that makes sense, or at least it's a rule I can remember.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 6:04 pm
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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Originally Posted by deyainrdy4ds
seeing some conflicting info...Citi AA on the list of getting charged cash advance fees, multiple reports?

Chase UA Explorer Visa - some say yes some say no?

also, anyone try using a card to send money to another user and report back on cash advance fee or not?

anyone hear about Chase SW Business or Personal Visa in re: cash advance fee?



oh..and those of you who got charged the cash advance fee, did you try calling chase to get the fee waived this once bc it was a mistake yada yada?
Regarding the Citi AA card, I believe the deal is this: there seem to be 3 different versions of the card: Visa, MasterCard, and AmEx? Maybe some business variations as well, but I'm not sure about that. Regardless, it appears that the AmEx (I think; don't quote me on this) and DEFINITELY the Visa (as multiple people have confirmed, and no conflicting reports have arisen) are posting as cash advances. The MasterCard, however, is running as a purchase.

Hope this clears it up, as the devil's in the details, but I don't believe there has been any conflicting info.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 6:44 pm
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Join Date: May 2012
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Originally Posted by Mirnada
Regarding the Citi AA card, I believe the deal is this: there seem to be 3 different versions of the card: Visa, MasterCard, and AmEx? Maybe some business variations as well, but I'm not sure about that. Regardless, it appears that the AmEx (I think; don't quote me on this) and DEFINITELY the Visa (as multiple people have confirmed, and no conflicting reports have arisen) are posting as cash advances. The MasterCard, however, is running as a purchase.

Hope this clears it up, as the devil's in the details, but I don't believe there has been any conflicting info.
It seems that there is no report of a MasterCard from any bank (including Citi, BOA, etc.) posting as cash advance.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 6:53 pm
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Join Date: Jul 2014
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I tested using CapOne QS Visa with a small amount on Oct 15 and it posted as purchase, no CA.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Mamibear
I tested using CapOne QS Visa with a small amount on Oct 15 and it posted as purchase, no CA.
I have the QS master, just 1.5% I don't know if it worth the risk. Been charged once with BOA already.

Could I set the CL to zero and can it still load?
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 8:22 pm
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Join Date: Mar 2014
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Originally Posted by milemission
I have the QS master, just 1.5% I don't know if it worth the risk. Been charged once with BOA already.

Could I set the CL to zero and can it still load?
It will not load with CL $0. The transaction will not go through at all. This happened to my CSP. Debating now if I should reverse my CA limit to at least $500.... Or may be to go with Discover, my only credit card with cash advance not at $0.
AP and Serve credit card loads were my only MS...
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 8:56 pm
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Originally Posted by SRFL
It will not load with CL $0. The transaction will not go through at all. This happened to my CSP. Debating now if I should reverse my CA limit to at least $500.... Or may be to go with Discover, my only credit card with cash advance not at $0.
AP and Serve credit card loads were my only MS...
Thanks for the information!

Anyone know if Barclay arrival set to zero can it still be loaded? Thanks!
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 9:43 pm
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I have a chase ink plus card and this is how it is going for me. if s/o can make sense of it pls do.!!!!!
10/18- $200 serve load
10/19- $200 serve load both went through no problem.
log on 2day and 1) see c/a limit $800 out of $1000
2)no pending or posted transactions for both serve tranactions (no mention of a/t on chase bout it???) (there are other multiple charges pending though that i used through out these couple days) ?????
3)my $5000k limit did decrease by the $400 of serve loads plus other transactions!?
not sure whats going on if s/o can help thatl be gr8 thanx
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 9:54 pm
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Join Date: Jan 2014
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Originally Posted by Kingofhertz
I have a chase ink plus card and this is how it is going for me. if s/o can make sense of it pls do.!!!!!
10/18- $200 serve load
10/19- $200 serve load both went through no problem.
log on 2day and 1) see c/a limit $800 out of $1000
2)no pending or posted transactions for both serve tranactions (no mention of a/t on chase bout it???) (there are other multiple charges pending though that i used through out these couple days) ?????
3)my $5000k limit did decrease by the $400 of serve loads plus other transactions!?
not sure whats going on if s/o can help thatl be gr8 thanx
Texts killing the language....
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 10:56 pm
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Join Date: Nov 2013
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So I was just in the middle of helping my mother load her new Serve card online with and United Chase Card. Transaction was blocked by Chase. Had to call Chase to allow it through. Rep had me run it through again and it went through ok. However, sometime after that, he mentioned that it was blocked initially because this type of CC spend was outside her normal usage and it was a cash advance. I will wait and have my mom check how it posts officially, but did not sound promising. Anyone else with United Chase CC experience?

As a note before people get on me for it, I know that so far everyone's Chase cards (including my personal CSP) have officially posted as purchase, but I have not had a Chase rep tell me before that it was a cash advance.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 11:11 pm
  #7482  
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Originally Posted by cleanes
So I was just in the middle of helping my mother load her new Serve card online with and United Chase Card. Transaction was blocked by Chase. Had to call Chase to allow it through. Rep had me run it through again and it went through ok. However, sometime after that, he mentioned that it was blocked initially because this type of CC spend was outside her normal usage and it was a cash advance. I will wait and have my mom check how it posts officially, but did not sound promising. Anyone else with United Chase CC experience?

As a note before people get on me for it, I know that so far everyone's Chase cards (including my personal CSP) have officially posted as purchase, but I have not had a Chase rep tell me before that it was a cash advance.

Yes, $70 loaded in 2 separate transactions after October 15, no CA fees on statement.

There are no confirmed reports of Chase actually processing these as Cash advance, with Fees charged. There are plenty of reports that the Auth comes through as CA, and the CA limit takes a temporary hit.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 11:14 pm
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Join Date: Jan 2013
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Originally Posted by Kingofhertz
I have a chase ink plus card and this is how it is going for me. if s/o can make sense of it pls do.!!!!!
10/18- $200 serve load
10/19- $200 serve load both went through no problem.
log on 2day and 1) see c/a limit $800 out of $1000
2)no pending or posted transactions for both serve tranactions (no mention of a/t on chase bout it???) (there are other multiple charges pending though that i used through out these couple days) ?????
3)my $5000k limit did decrease by the $400 of serve loads plus other transactions!?
not sure whats going on if s/o can help thatl be gr8 thanx
You are fine, answer is in the Wiki.
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Old Oct 21, 2014, 2:37 am
  #7484  
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 119
I have been loading money to serve with Citi AA Visa for a while. This month I got charged a $10 cash advance for the first time.

On another note, I have 1K left to reach the minimum spending for AMEX SPG. Will I get charged a cash advance to load serve with it? And will it count towards minimum spending? Thanks!
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Old Oct 21, 2014, 3:08 am
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 25
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Originally Posted by SRFL
It will not load with CL $0. The transaction will not go through at all. This happened to my CSP. Debating now if I should reverse my CA limit to at least $500.... Or may be to go with Discover, my only credit card with cash advance not at $0.
AP and Serve credit card loads were my only MS...
as anyone tried an AMEX serve charge this month on discover card?, if so, any confirmation of 5% CashBack on discover IT cards from AMEX serve?
if not, Did u even get 1% CashBack (assuming it was an IT Discover card)?
any cash advance fees from serve on discover IT cards?
I tried a $200 charge from serve onto my discover IT, which has a 0 cash advance limit, but statement does not close til 25 th so I cannot post results til then. Any update would be appreciated.
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