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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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People with an apartment address can find helpful information quoted in post #8530
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Serve - Another Paypal/Amazon Payments.

Old Oct 21, 14, 9:29 pm
  #7501  
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Need help with new phone and Softcard. Current Softcard initially registered using her phone my information, have only used online. Purchased new Verizon phone (Verizon is wonky w/regard to SIM card and Softcard so I want to do it right first time).

I'd like to take opportunity with new phone to get registered a new Serve via Softcard and for friend and return the favor. However, I'm afraid that if I do it on my phone and just have her complete online, I'll never be able to add my *own* Serve card on *my* phone. (I know I'd probably be able to load my current Serve card online but I don't want to screw it and I'd really like to be able to use CCs including Serve on my new phone). Advice?
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Old Oct 22, 14, 1:34 am
  #7502  
 
Join Date: May 2014
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Has anyone used Serve to pay one of the new Diners Club Mastercards?

They have DC listed as a payee but worried the payment may not go through correctly since you can't even yet pay the cards online.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 9:01 am
  #7503  
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Originally Posted by IWOL
Has anyone used Serve to pay one of the new Diners Club Mastercards?

They have DC listed as a payee but worried the payment may not go through correctly since you can't even yet pay the cards online.
Just pay 5$ and find out.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 10:19 am
  #7504  
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Smile

Originally Posted by frudd38
Pending transactions tend to disappear for a day or two then reappear with Chase Business cards. This has nothing to do with the Serve transaction..
thanks you. they did show up today!
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Old Oct 22, 14, 10:28 am
  #7505  
 
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Anyone got one of these before:

During a recent review, we noticed irregular activity on your American Express Serve Account. For your security and protection, some features on your Account have been suspended while we conduct further investigation.

In order to restore these account features, please help us verify your identity by sending a readable copy of the following documents within ten days of the date on this email:

Valid Picture ID
A valid driver's license card OR
A valid state issued ID OR
A valid Government ID Card (e.g. Green Card)OR
A valid United States Passport

A copy of your Bank Statement from US Bank Account Ending in N/A, which is dated within the last 3 months, and shows your name, address and account number.
A copy of the front of your card OR the Credit Card Statement of the Credit Card Ending in 6439. If sending a Statement, it must be dated within the last 3 months, and show your name, address and last four digits of your account number
A copy of the front of the Debit Card or Payroll Card Ending in N/A.

I was trying to remove/add a different card a few days ago (using my old Android phone, since I switched to the iPhone 6) and it wouldn't let me. I figure that triggered it...
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Old Oct 22, 14, 10:35 am
  #7506  
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Originally Posted by callmedtop
Anyone got one of these before:

During a recent review, we noticed irregular activity on your American Express Serve Account. For your security and protection, some features on your Account have been suspended while we conduct further investigation.

In order to restore these account features, please help us verify your identity by sending a readable copy of the following documents within ten days of the date on this email:

Valid Picture ID
A valid driver's license card OR
A valid state issued ID OR
A valid Government ID Card (e.g. Green Card)OR
A valid United States Passport

A copy of your Bank Statement from US Bank Account Ending in N/A, which is dated within the last 3 months, and shows your name, address and account number.
A copy of the front of your card OR the Credit Card Statement of the Credit Card Ending in 6439. If sending a Statement, it must be dated within the last 3 months, and show your name, address and last four digits of your account number
A copy of the front of the Debit Card or Payroll Card Ending in N/A.

I was trying to remove/add a different card a few days ago (using my old Android phone, since I switched to the iPhone 6) and it wouldn't let me. I figure that triggered it...
Standard procedure when adding new / switching CC or bank account linked to the prepaid card, since day 1.

Just reply to the email link to upload your docs (one at a time) and then call Serve to speed up the unblocking. Or you could have all your docs ready, then call, once you get the rep, tell him/her you will upload the docs while on the phone - rep should be able to see the docs and unblock the card / restore the features on the spot.

Docs are easily gathered because most bank / card would have online statement which you just make a pdf file. Passport should always has a pdf file stored somewhere if you travel a lot. These 2 are sufficient.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 12:18 pm
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I called Barclay's on my Arrival card to shut off the cash advance function (or reduce it to $1) and, after checking with a superior, I was told it couldn't be done.

If it ever does post as a cash advance, how much damage am I looking at? I wouldn't have to pay interest on my regular purchases, right?
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Old Oct 22, 14, 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by iahphx
I called Barclay's on my Arrival card to shut off the cash advance function (or reduce it to $1) and, after checking with a superior, I was told it couldn't be done.
Unless they've changed policy, you definitely can have it lowered to $1. Sounds like a HUCA situation.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 2:32 pm
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Will AMEX SPG card count toward minimum spend

I just got an AMEX SPG card, and want to load the Serve card using this SPG card.
1. Will it count as a purchase and NOT a cash advance
2. Will it count toward the minimum spend requirements?

I read in the Wiki that it says to go to post 4394, but post 4394 says nothing, it just says "Might want to edit your other post in case someone ONLY reads that."

Please let me know. Thanks.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 5:42 pm
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Does serve/softcard have an actual plastic debit card or is it all virtual? The wiki doesn't say how to go from BB to serve/softcard, do I just close BB by calling in and getting a serve at walmart the next day?
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Old Oct 22, 14, 7:18 pm
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Originally Posted by iahphx
I called Barclay's on my Arrival card to shut off the cash advance function (or reduce it to $1) and, after checking with a superior, I was told it couldn't be done.

If it ever does post as a cash advance, how much damage am I looking at? I wouldn't have to pay interest on my regular purchases, right?
wrong.

All purchases accrue interest from the time you make the purchase. However, as long as you pay the statement balance in full before / by the due date, such accrued interest is waived. Have you heard about the term called "grace period"? It is referred to the time you have to pay the balance and still enjoy the benefit to have the accrued interest waived. Hence if you pay in full every month you would never see any interest, i.e. finance charge.

However, a cash advance would immediately void the "grace period" - meaning ALL your charges on the card would have finance charges, starting from the date you make said purchase.

If the load is treated as a CA, your best option to control the damage is to IMMEDIATELY pay off the full balance posted, plus the pending transactions. This way, the interest incurred would be very small. Of course you would still have the $20 or so Cash Advance fee which is a separate charge from interest.

Or, pay off all your outstanding balance first before test the water of loading Serve.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 8:09 pm
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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Secure Element NFC for Incipio Cashwrap case

I thought I would share my Cashwrap case experience. I previously bought a 'new' Cashwrap case off of eBay with full knowledge that it might not be able to be activated with a new Softcard account. I opened it and sure enough, the app went directly to the ISIS login instead of prompting me to set up a new ISIS account (such an unfortunate name they chose ). I immediately emailed the seller saying that it should not have been listed as new, and he refunded me for the full amount a day later .

From what I've read, it seems AT&T stores used to stock these secure element NFC SD cards, so I thought I'd give it a try with my (now free) case. I brought my case to the AT&T store today only to find out that they don't seem to stock either the cases or the secure element NFC SD cards anymore.

Any other recent Cashwrap case stories? An extra $500 spend per month would be nice, but not quite worth the $80 I'd spend on a new case.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 8:28 pm
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Originally Posted by hayburner21

Any other recent Cashwrap case stories? An extra $500 spend per month would be nice, but not quite worth the $80 I'd spend on a new case.
The day the iPhone 6 became available, AT&T stores stopped selling the Cashwrap cases for iPhones and I don't think you can buy a new one from an official source anymore.

Some sellers on ebay managed to scoop up a the remaining stock of cases while they were still available. I bought one a couple weeks ago from the seller performance-oriented. It was new-in-sealed-box and I had no problem activating it - just in time for the current $20 bonuses for adding and using new credit cards

He only has pink ones left now

GL
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Old Oct 22, 14, 8:35 pm
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Just used my Arrival card and loaded 200 dollars to my Serve account. Where do I check to see if was counted as a CA? Thanks for your help.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 9:02 pm
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I think that we have this figured out, and I've generalized the information in the wiki.

If anyone has counter-examples, please pipe up. Otherwise, keep your data points to yourself.
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