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This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Aug 21, 2014, 7:14 am
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as pp mentioned, there's no BlackBird, but there's BlackHawk
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Old Aug 21, 2014, 8:06 am
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Any data points on Serve loads in Vancouver BC? There are 2 Wally's there....
also places to buy mycash in Vancouver?
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Old Aug 21, 2014, 11:07 am
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I have a complicated question I am hoping someone can help me with.

I already have tmobile service and a phone that uses a regular size sim card.

I wanna do this isis thing and I know you need data service to sign up, I understand that.

The ISIS phone I have obtained it a LG F6 but it uses a micro size sim card.

I really do not wanna mess up anything on my normal tmobile account. I do not want to have to switch to the micro sim card and then switch my account back to my normal sim card when done.

So my question is, can I just activate the new isis micro sim card as new tmobile service? Meaning I just get a new number and do like that $3 for 1 day plan, sign up with ISIS with that and then done ?
Then I never use that sim card again and do not have to mess with my normal account.

My question was also will this plan screw anything up with my serve account ? signing up under a different phone number/sim than my normal real phone number is ????
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Old Aug 21, 2014, 11:14 am
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Originally Posted by darkhunter
I have a complicated question I am hoping someone can help me with.

I already have tmobile service and a phone that uses a regular size sim card.

I wanna do this isis thing and I know you need data service to sign up, I understand that.

The ISIS phone I have obtained it a LG F6 but it uses a micro size sim card.

I really do not wanna mess up anything on my normal tmobile account. I do not want to have to switch to the micro sim card and then switch my account back to my normal sim card when done.

So my question is, can I just activate the new isis micro sim card as new tmobile service? Meaning I just get a new number and do like that $3 for 1 day plan, sign up with ISIS with that and then done ?
Then I never use that sim card again and do not have to mess with my normal account.

My question was also will this plan screw anything up with my serve account ? signing up under a different phone number/sim than my normal real phone number is ????
You are making things too complicated. Get the new sim card and use that from now on in your phone. It will not mess up your phone acct in anyway. It has nothing to do with your phone acct other than using your cell phone & sim for execution.
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Old Aug 21, 2014, 11:16 am
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Originally Posted by darkhunter
I have a complicated question I am hoping someone can help me with.

I already have tmobile service and a phone that uses a regular size sim card.

I wanna do this isis thing and I know you need data service to sign up, I understand that.

The ISIS phone I have obtained it a LG F6 but it uses a micro size sim card.

I really do not wanna mess up anything on my normal tmobile account. I do not want to have to switch to the micro sim card and then switch my account back to my normal sim card when done.

So my question is, can I just activate the new isis micro sim card as new tmobile service? Meaning I just get a new number and do like that $3 for 1 day plan, sign up with ISIS with that and then done ?
Then I never use that sim card again and do not have to mess with my normal account.

My question was also will this plan screw anything up with my serve account ? signing up under a different phone number/sim than my normal real phone number is ????
That's what I did.
I don't have a t-mobile account so I picked up an f6 and an new SIM activation kit ($.01 right now on the website).
Then I activated with the $2/day plan, took the SIM into the store and swapped it out for an SE.
I was switching from BB so I waited for all BB transactions to post and then closed out BB account.
Installed ISIS on new F6, created account, followed link in ISIS app to create serve account. Created Serve account using exact same info from BB account.
Once activated, I did a factory reset on the phone, bought another SIM activation kit and did the same thing to create an account for my wife using the same F6.
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Old Aug 21, 2014, 11:19 am
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
You are making things too complicated. Get the new sim card and use that from now on in your phone. It will not mess up your phone acct in anyway. It has nothing to do with your phone acct other than using your cell phone & sim for execution.
Thats my whole problem, I cant use the isis sim in my normal phone.
My normal phone uses a regular sized sim card. I had to get a microsim for the LG phone I am using to set up isis. I do not want to continue using the LG phone after I set up isis, I want to go back to the phone I am currently using.
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Old Aug 21, 2014, 11:22 am
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Originally Posted by darkhunter
Thats my whole problem, I cant use the isis sim in my normal phone.
My normal phone uses a regular sized sim card. I had to get a microsim for the LG phone I am using to set up isis. I do not want to continue using the LG phone after I set up isis, I want to go back to the phone I am currently using.
Ok then I misunderstood your question. Then just go back to a normal sim after you finish. You can swap phones and sim cards as often as you like. Not sure if there is a price to do this with T-Mobile (i.e. the sim card price.) Maybe someone here knows or you can call T-Mobile directly to ask. OR you can do the option like in the previous post of the $2/day plan.
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Old Aug 21, 2014, 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by wiseonewill
That's what I did.
I don't have a t-mobile account so I picked up an f6 and an new SIM activation kit ($.01 right now on the website).
Then I activated with the $2/day plan, took the SIM into the store and swapped it out for an SE.
I was switching from BB so I waited for all BB transactions to post and then closed out BB account.
Installed ISIS on new F6, created account, followed link in ISIS app to create serve account. Created Serve account using exact same info from BB account.
Once activated, I did a factory reset on the phone, bought another SIM activation kit and did the same thing to create an account for my wife using the same F6.
Killer, that is super helpful , thank you. So it does not cause any problems then having serve be a different phone number than the isis sim card you set it up with ??

That was my concern. Or did you just use the "fake" number to set up your serve account ?

Like for example lets say your real life (with tmobile or whoever) phone number you use is 111-111-1111 but you activate your isis sim card on the $2 plan and get a new tmobile number, lets say 222-222-2222.

Do you set up your new serve account with the 111 number or the 222 number ?

But anyways what you said was super helpful, thank you as I want to do the exact same thing, I wanna get another isis sim and do it for my wife too. So just factory re-set the phone before setting up another isis account ?
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Old Aug 21, 2014, 11:29 am
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
Ok then I misunderstood your question. Then just go back to a normal sim after you finish. You can swap phones and sim cards as often as you like. Not sure if there is a price to do this with T-Mobile (i.e. the sim card price.) Maybe someone here knows or you can call T-Mobile directly to ask. OR you can do the option like in the previous post of the $2/day plan.

Ok, thanks

Yeah I guess if I can switch the sims on my account as often as I like then no biggie really. But I think its probably best if I do the $2 thing under a new number and plan anyways as the cheapest data I can add to my normal tmobile account is $5 for a day. So $2 seems like the better deal.

Also sorry for another question, I just wanna make sure I have it 100% clear.
Once I set up isis, I do not EVER need data again right ? If I wanna do the $1 transactions at McDonalds, etc you can do that without service right ?
you just tap the phone and the transactions go through their machine ?
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Old Aug 21, 2014, 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by wiseonewill
That's what I did.
I don't have a t-mobile account so I picked up an f6 and an new SIM activation kit ($.01 right now on the website).
Then I activated with the $2/day plan, took the SIM into the store and swapped it out for an SE.
I was switching from BB so I waited for all BB transactions to post and then closed out BB account.
Installed ISIS on new F6, created account, followed link in ISIS app to create serve account. Created Serve account using exact same info from BB account.
Once activated, I did a factory reset on the phone, bought another SIM activation kit and did the same thing to create an account for my wife using the same F6.
thanks for sharing your process. I did the exact same thing with Galaxy light for myself and wife. Got $50 in both accounts. I bought it from HSN for $100 (4x miles from barclays portal as well).

Now I'm waiting for physical card to get full load limits and doing more sync promotions.


Originally Posted by darkhunter
Thats my whole problem, I cant use the isis sim in my normal phone.
My normal phone uses a regular sized sim card. I had to get a microsim for the LG phone I am using to set up isis. I do not want to continue using the LG phone after I set up isis, I want to go back to the phone I am currently using.
you can buy one of the adapter kits from amazon for a few dollars.
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Old Aug 21, 2014, 1:55 pm
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I can now confirm that doing several $1.xx transactions with Serve-I at WAG will give credit for each transaction. Last Tuesday, I bought the 2/$1 Nestle GS candy bars, paid $1.xx with Serve-I with a few seconds in between each transaction. There were no other customers in line so I did 10 b2b just to see for myself if it'll be consolidated to one transaction. I saw the 10x $1 credit posted today in my account, I'm short of 4 more swipes to reach $50.

Thanks to whoever made the clarification and corrected my mistaken notion.
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Old Aug 21, 2014, 5:27 pm
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Fairly new to MS and am putting this out there for the more experienced answer.

Does anyone put actual spending on their serve card, or am I safe moving my money in and out through the various ways enough to keep amex happy? I've been loading through VGC and online CC loads and withdrawing though ATM, bill pay, and bank transfer. I would like to know if this activity could get me flagged or am I well in the clear?
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Old Aug 21, 2014, 6:34 pm
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Originally Posted by fishll
Fairly new to MS and am putting this out there for the more experienced answer.

Does anyone put actual spending on their serve card, or am I safe moving my money in and out through the various ways enough to keep amex happy? I've been loading through VGC and online CC loads and withdrawing though ATM, bill pay, and bank transfer. I would like to know if this activity could get me flagged or am I well in the clear?
I've done both without issue for about 6 months now. In addition to loading and unloading, I "spend" on my own Serve by making small purchases to take advantage of the $1 promotion while only loading and unloading on my wife's card.
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Old Aug 21, 2014, 7:41 pm
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How do you withdraw at a PNC ATM? I went to Wawa, which has a PNC ATM, and withdrew $10 by selecting other account. I was charged a $2 fee.

The MoneyPass website has the ATM on the map.
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Old Aug 21, 2014, 9:10 pm
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Originally Posted by fishll
Fairly new to MS and am putting this out there for the more experienced answer.

Does anyone put actual spending on their serve card, or am I safe moving my money in and out through the various ways enough to keep amex happy? I've been loading through VGC and online CC loads and withdrawing though ATM, bill pay, and bank transfer. I would like to know if this activity could get me flagged or am I well in the clear?
I purchased a few things here and there (under $50) but it's mostly bill pay.
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