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This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Aug 19, 2014, 5:01 pm
  #6181  
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
No you should not lose the bonus.
Tried to open again, denied due to
We're sorry but because you have an existing Serve Account, we cannot approve you for another American Express ServeŽ Account.
Called up Account Protection Services again at 800-555-4318 and spoke to nice lady and explained my hypothesis that their original issue was due to my ChexSystems report being under security freeze. She put me on a long hold while she tracked down a supervisor for help. I got the non-helpful response that legal says the account is under lockdown due to some kind of fraud and they don't think I'll ever be allowed to have an account. The CSR also stated the issue was with how the account was maintained. Being that I just opened it, never had any transactions and only had responded to their request for SS Card and Passport copies, I don't feel I did anything untoward in my account maintenance.

I'll try again for my wife, but this time unfreeze her ChexSystems report before opening hers.

Kind of bummed that they are treating me like I've done something wrong.

I wonder if something else is going on here since my Amex GC purchases have been declined now for about two months now, despite working previously. Could I be red flagged in their system as a non-profitable customer?
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Old Aug 19, 2014, 5:04 pm
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Good to know SMGCs (Simon mall) are good to go! What abt staples $200 VGCs? I know it's a hassle but thought 5x UR points make it bearable to milk it out at WM, or FD (hopefully someone can confirm).
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Old Aug 19, 2014, 5:37 pm
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Originally Posted by WilliamKF
I got the non-helpful response that legal says the account is under lockdown due to some kind of fraud and they don't think I'll ever be allowed to have an account. The CSR also stated the issue was with how the account was maintained. Being that I just opened it, never had any transactions and only had responded to their request for SS Card and Passport copies, I don't feel I did anything untoward in my account maintenance.

I'll try again for my wife, but this time unfreeze her ChexSystems report before opening hers.

Kind of bummed that they are treating me like I've done something wrong.

I wonder if something else is going on here since my Amex GC purchases have been declined now for about two months now, despite working previously. Could I be red flagged in their system as a non-profitable customer?
How did you use your BB account? The legal reference could be to that account and not the "Serve" account. You might see if you talk to the CSR and withdraw your request for a Serve account and /or close the account. Then wait 60 days or so and try to apply again. Your declined Amex GC purchases may have the same issue as the Serve application.

My suggestion is to lay low with Amex for a couple of months and then try Serve again.
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Old Aug 19, 2014, 9:20 pm
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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Originally Posted by miadeals
I dare you to delete your card and try to link it again...

Things may have changed...has anyone had success within the last week linking a Barclays card?
Linked my Arrival+ last night, it errored out on the load attempt. Then got the card locked email today. Sent the pictures requested and just loaded money from the Arrival+ now after the review was completed. Money is in the account now.

However despite being an ISIS serve account the online account shows CC limited to $200/day-$1000/month, is this normal?

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Old Aug 19, 2014, 11:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Boondr
Linked my Arrival+ last night, it errored out on the load attempt. Then got the card locked email today. Sent the pictures requested and just loaded money from the Arrival+ now after the review was completed. Money is in the account now.

However despite being an ISIS serve account the online account shows CC limited to $200/day-$1000/month, is this normal?
The display is incorrect. Put in $500 and it will go through.
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Old Aug 20, 2014, 6:25 am
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Originally Posted by geclub1
The display is incorrect. Put in $500 and it will go through.
Thank you
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Old Aug 20, 2014, 6:29 am
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Originally Posted by geclub1
The display is incorrect. Put in $500 and it will go through.
Yep. It's odd it's like that. Must have something to do with "one serve website for all."
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Old Aug 20, 2014, 12:12 pm
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I had a serve account, closed it in 2012 and opened a BB. Now I'm thinking of switching back to serve. Would it be allowed? Has anyone done this?
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Old Aug 20, 2014, 12:16 pm
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What are you suppose to do with your OV when you have issues during Serve loading where you get interrupted and the cashier cancels the transaction halfway through but the funds still went into your Serve account?

I was at FD this morning and the cashier was giving me some trouble right off the bat asking to see my debit card and ID. After the transaction has started and it was time to swipe my card on the reader, I swapped DCs during the transaction (probably noticed the red color of my bank DC) and stopped the transaction after I slid my OV since it is gray color since the cashier was watching me like a hawk. However as she was continuing my transaction she must have clicked no for cash back and typed in any PIN and it must have gone through somehow since I haven't set a PIN yet. I checked my Serve account and it got credited for the $500. However when I call the OV number to check my card it says my balance is currently $0 but it has a pending transaction for $500 which is preauthorized (which I don't think is suppose to happen if a Serve load goes through) at FD.

I am not sure what happens in this situation as I have heard about things like this has happened before at WM and FD. I am trying to figure out if the $500 on my Serve account is going to be clawed back and my $500 will be credited back to my OV. Obviously I am not going to touch this OV any further until this all settles but does anyone have any experience in this situation and any advice? Should I just assume the $500 will be clawed back and how do I follow up on this?

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Old Aug 20, 2014, 12:27 pm
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I'm confused by your story. You say that your Serve card got loaded AND your OV was charged. What's the problem?
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Old Aug 20, 2014, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
I'm confused by your story. You say that your Serve card got loaded AND your OV was charged. What's the problem?
The problem is that the Serve card was not suppose to be loaded in the first place since I didn't technically finish the transaction. It was already suspicious when she asked me to see my DC and ID. I didn't want to draw any attention to the OV so I let the cashier see my bank DC. At the time the cashier (asst Mgr) must have seen me switch my DC from my bank DC (red color) to the OV (gray color....fairly obvious if they are watching you like a hawk and its one of those color card readers where you have to slide horizontally with the DC front face side up) when I was swiping my card.

After I swiped my card at FD, that is when the cashier stopped me and I didn't even enter a PIN or anything since it was still asking me if I wanted Cash back and then it prompts you for a PIN. What must have happened is the cashier was trying to cancel the transaction, I saw the cashier come over to the card machine and press zero cash back on the card reader and I guess tried to zero out the transaction by pressing any PIN which might have accidentally processed the $500 transaction without me knowing. However with OVs, since you don't set a PIN ahead of time, any 4 digits on first time use will work and I think that must have completed the transaction. I didnt stay long enough to see if all of this occurred nor did I stick around to see if she realized that the transaction went through and did a follow up transaction to try to void the last transaction. I probably should have stuck around but I wanted to get out of dodge.

I left FD and about 10 mins later when I got to work I checked my Serve account and I saw the $500 transaction went through. The last step was to confirm if my OV card was set to $0 balance which it was but it had a caveat from the roboCSR since normally it tells you "$0 balance with no pending transactions". However this time the roboCSR said "0 balance with a $500 pending transaction). This is what is troubling me. I am wondering if that does not clear up, will they void the Serve transaction? Hopefully this makes it more clear.

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Old Aug 20, 2014, 1:56 pm
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Can anyone confirm if you can load funds at walmart onto a sub account? I did a search of this thread but didn't find any answers or on the wiki.

Our walmart went ID required to do a load, so I can no longer load friends and family cards any longer. So creating sub accounts might allow me to get around this.
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Old Aug 20, 2014, 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by psone
Can anyone confirm if you can load funds at walmart onto a sub account? I did a search of this thread but didn't find any answers or on the wiki.

Our walmart went ID required to do a load, so I can no longer load friends and family cards any longer. So creating sub accounts might allow me to get around this.
No.
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Old Aug 20, 2014, 3:29 pm
  #6194  
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Originally Posted by deant
How did you use your BB account? The legal reference could be to that account and not the "Serve" account. You might see if you talk to the CSR and withdraw your request for a Serve account and /or close the account. Then wait 60 days or so and try to apply again. Your declined Amex GC purchases may have the same issue as the Serve application.

My suggestion is to lay low with Amex for a couple of months and then try Serve again.
I've never had a BlackBird (BB) account. Only other thing could be that my phone is rooted and somehow they got wind of that. I've gotten no where with Amex GC department as to why my purchases are continually declined. I had the same Amex GC denial issue about a year ago. I gave up and let the account sit for a while, before trying again about six months later and it started working again till recently.
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Old Aug 20, 2014, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
The last step was to confirm if my OV card was set to $0 balance which it was but it had a caveat from the roboCSR since normally it tells you "$0 balance with no pending transactions". However this time the roboCSR said "0 balance with a $500 pending transaction). This is what is troubling me.
If you're thinking the "$500 pending transaction" on the OV is the Asst Mgr trying to reverse the transaction, they might be able to put $500 back on your OV, but not sure how they would get $500 back from Serve. By whose authorization ?
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