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Old Oct 25, 2013, 11:21 am
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It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Aug 25, 2014, 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Lumpylump76
Seriously? You tried to load from a CC directly?
Yes. The FAQ implies this is possible at FD.
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Old Aug 25, 2014, 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by rjs11
Has anyone gotten this error message before- "You have the following errors. We're sorry, something went wrong! Please try again."

I've been getting this message the last 2 days for some reason when I try to do my regular $200 load. When I called CS they said they didn't know the cause and that perhaps it was because I was trying to load again before the 24 hours ended. However, even after waiting more than 24 hours I still get the error message.
I got the same error message despite my previous Add was 2 days ago.

Barclays said it did not see any attempt from AMEX, nor my account was blocked.

Called into Serve, cannot get to representative now because the line kept disconnected when I was holding for the representative, 3 times.

Finally got thru to a rep who said they needed to verify the credit card. I asked him to call Barclays instead for me to submit the docs. He put me on hold to do that, then the line went disconnected AGAIN while I was waiting for him to come back.

The phone system simply is not working now.
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Old Aug 25, 2014, 5:03 pm
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I'm getting the exact same error message since yesterday. I tried again just now and got the same error message.
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Old Aug 25, 2014, 5:14 pm
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I tried adding a different amount and it worked! Instead of adding 200, try 100.
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Old Aug 25, 2014, 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by myb821
Can someone please explain the risks of using GC's at family dollar. I have tried reading through the thread but it is all over the place. In one place it said $500 max per day in other places i saw ppl say you can do a $500 and a $250 as long as not same amount.
My understanding is you can do $500 if you're the first one to load that much on that day. Therefore it's safest to show up when they open if you plan to load $500. For some amount of time afterwards, perhaps the entire day, anyone who attempts a $500 load will have the load rejected. That person will have to immediately re-swipe to be refunded on their debit card, or else call the Treasury department of FD executive office and wait weeks for a refund.

Loads less than $500 (unclear how much less) do not seem cause a similar lockdown for later loads.
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Old Aug 25, 2014, 5:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Happy
I got the same error message despite my previous Add was 2 days ago.

Barclays said it did not see any attempt from AMEX, nor my account was blocked.

Called into Serve, cannot get to representative now because the line kept disconnected when I was holding for the representative, 3 times.

Finally got thru to a rep who said they needed to verify the credit card. I asked him to call Barclays instead for me to submit the docs. He put me on hold to do that, then the line went disconnected AGAIN while I was waiting for him to come back.

The phone system simply is not working now.
On the 5th attempt and 3rd rep who basically came off to tell me to submit docs for verification without any other options. I complained loudly on the frequent disconnections and the 2 previous reps failed to call me back when they both agreed to call Barclays to verify information. Then the calls with Serve were disconnected while I was put on hold.

I said I tried not to do all the craps to get the documents if they could just call Barclays to verify the card. The 3rd rep finally agreed to call Barclays again. I made him promise to call back in case line disconnected for the outcome. Luckily this time the line stayed on. Unluckily he came back said he could not verify with Barclays because both sides could only do Yes / No answers without giving out ANY info. How can you give Yes / No answer WITHOUT knowing what the question is?!

So he said the submission of docs was necessary. I read thru the email he sent and verified the options of docs needed. I am not going to make pictures of my DL and card just for this purpose if I can use readily available docs. Passport pdf file is readily available. I also can download the card statement pdf file from Barclays right away. So I asked him to stay on the phone while I prepared the docs to upload.

It took a few tries to correctly upload the files because the steps are NOT intuitive on Serve website. Also the upload site defaults the file of choice being IMAGE file but in fact it accepts many different formats including PDF. At first I could not understand why my files not showing up when I "browse" - turned out it was defaulted to just look up Image files. On top of that even the rep did not really know how to upload multiple docs. Eventually I got 2 docs uploaded and he could see them right away. After he came back to clear the Serve account, I made him stay on the phone to watch the load which went thru successfully.

Then I asked him did it mean every time I added a new card I had to go thru this? He said not always as it was random but eventually the system would make you to go thru this... but he said you could add as many cards as you prefer (Doubt this is the case) without deleting the existing linked card(s).

Note the Fraud Dept only works M-F and 8 to 8. They are in Phoenix. This seems different than BB.
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Old Aug 25, 2014, 6:10 pm
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Originally Posted by kharlamov
Does anyone know if the Amex for Target card can be used to load Serve at Walmart? Amex for Target has a pin and the card holder's name on the card. If Amex for Target could be loaded on to Serve, it seems like that would be a way to avoid the $3 ATM fee for Amex for Target. Amex for Target doesn't include Bill Pay, but Serve does.
Try it and let us know.
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Old Aug 25, 2014, 6:15 pm
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Originally Posted by civicmon
Yes. The FAQ implies this is possible at FD.
What FAQ?
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Old Aug 25, 2014, 7:06 pm
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Originally Posted by MaineCoon
any problems with this scheme below?

- load my serve w/ my cc
- load wife's serve with her cc
- pay wife's cc from my serve
- pay my cc from wife's serve

thanks.
That will work.

Or you can just pay your wife's cc from her server and your cc from your serve.
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Old Aug 25, 2014, 7:55 pm
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Originally Posted by gw14
That will work.

Or you can just pay your wife's cc from her server and your cc from your serve.
I thought about this.

just don't want to be so obvious

overall, with Serve Isis it is $33.33 from the barclay arrival each card a month.

not bad. not bad at all.
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Old Aug 26, 2014, 11:19 am
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Originally Posted by mrmandel
My understanding is you can do $500 if you're the first one to load that much on that day. Therefore it's safest to show up when they open if you plan to load $500. For some amount of time afterwards, perhaps the entire day, anyone who attempts a $500 load will have the load rejected. That person will have to immediately re-swipe to be refunded on their debit card, or else call the Treasury department of FD executive office and wait weeks for a refund.

Loads less than $500 (unclear how much less) do not seem cause a similar lockdown for later loads.
According to the manager at my local FD there is a Daily Limit set for her store by corporate, athough she doesn't know exactly what that limit is. Once the limit is exeeded, all subsequent Serve loads of any amount for the day will be rejected.
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Old Aug 26, 2014, 11:21 am
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How much do you normally load at WM onto serve? I am looking for total number of GC swipes and total dollar amount. Never tried more than 1 swipe of a $500 GC.
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Old Aug 26, 2014, 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by muswei
How much do you normally load at WM onto serve? I am looking for total number of GC swipes and total dollar amount. Never tried more than 1 swipe of a $500 GC.
I do $500 normally while going to grocery shop, although every once in a while I do $1,000 in separate transactions (GC) using Kate, while running or jogging with a pit stop to visit that girl (Beautiful Kate). Never done more than that in one day.
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Old Aug 26, 2014, 1:31 pm
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Originally Posted by muswei
How much do you normally load at WM onto serve? I am looking for total number of GC swipes and total dollar amount. Never tried more than 1 swipe of a $500 GC.
I've done $500 metas five times, one after the other on 2 cards and Kate took them all with gusto. These are on Serve-Isis cards.
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Old Aug 26, 2014, 1:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Mamibear
I've done $500 metas five times, one after the other on 2 cards and Kate took them all with gusto. These are on Serve-Isis cards.
Sorry I should have mentioned doing it at a cashier. I don't have a Kate close to me in Southern California.
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