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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old May 8, 2014, 10:43 pm
  #3736  
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Originally Posted by heyeaglefn
Why wouldn't you just put in your CC number? You can pay other people's bills.
so are we allowed to pay CC bills with serve?
can i use it to pay my barclay arrival bill?
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Old May 8, 2014, 11:10 pm
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Originally Posted by f0xx
I'm joking!
Call the Account Protection and tell them you entered the SSN wrong.
They'll send you an email for docs. Send docs. Call back saying docs were sent and boom you're good to go.

You might have to wait on hold for a bit though.
whats the time frame for something like this? could I cancel around the 20th and expect to have my serve account ready to use by the 25th (or 26th since 31 days in may) to load up the extra $5k for Serve as well?
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Old May 8, 2014, 11:13 pm
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Originally Posted by FTRox87
whats the time frame for something like this? could I cancel around the 20th and expect to have my serve account ready to use by the 25th (or 26th since 31 days in may) to load up the extra $5k for Serve as well?
it says it takes 7-10 business days for your card to ship after you get approved.
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Old May 8, 2014, 11:16 pm
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Join Date: May 2014
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
Don't tell them that you entered the SSN wrong. Makes it seem like you intentionally entered it incorrectly (which is actually the true story..but still). Just pretend you didn't know you entered it incorrectly and let them bring it up.
is there a serve specific number?

sorry, serve noob
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Old May 8, 2014, 11:19 pm
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Join Date: Dec 2013
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Originally Posted by austintastic
is there a serve specific number?

sorry, serve noob
check the wiki...*cough cough* bottom of wiki *cough cough*
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Old May 8, 2014, 11:33 pm
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Join Date: May 2014
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
check the wiki...*cough cough* bottom of wiki *cough cough*
I saw that about an hour ago and completely forgot. You are a saint and a scholar

edit: just called and got the email w/ document link. I will probably upload tomorrow. Thanks for the help everyone

Edit 2: couldn't wait. Sent in docs and my account was approved. Thanks again everyone!

Last edited by austintastic; May 9, 2014 at 12:19 am
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Old May 9, 2014, 6:37 am
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Do we have to go through this process for switching serve to serve Isis as well?
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Old May 9, 2014, 7:44 am
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Adding new credit cards to Serve

Follow up to my previous post:

I just added a new credit card to Serve. This is the second one. I originally added a Hilton card to meet the minimum spend and now switching to my Barclayscard.

I learned that you can only have one card connected to your account at a time. This stinks because it makes it more time consuming to switch cards.

Also, it seems every time you change your card, you will have to call and have it verified. It takes 10 minutes or so which is pretty inconvenient.

However, it is free manufactured spending so I guess I shouldn't complain.
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Old May 9, 2014, 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by wetz
Follow up to my previous post:

I just added a new credit card to Serve. This is the second one. I originally added a Hilton card to meet the minimum spend and now switching to my Barclayscard.

I learned that you can only have one card connected to your account at a time. This stinks because it makes it more time consuming to switch cards.

Also, it seems every time you change your card, you will have to call and have it verified. It takes 10 minutes or so which is pretty inconvenient.

However, it is free manufactured spending so I guess I shouldn't complain.
Until we can open free checking accounts for $100k with any credit card we should keep complaining
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Old May 9, 2014, 10:38 am
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Join Date: Dec 2013
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Originally Posted by wetz
Follow up to my previous post:

I just added a new credit card to Serve. This is the second one. I originally added a Hilton card to meet the minimum spend and now switching to my Barclayscard.

I learned that you can only have one card connected to your account at a time. This stinks because it makes it more time consuming to switch cards.

Also, it seems every time you change your card, you will have to call and have it verified. It takes 10 minutes or so which is pretty inconvenient.

However, it is free manufactured spending so I guess I shouldn't complain.
Umm....are you serious? Did you just find that out right now that you have to verify every single DC or CC that you add to your account? Serve has to protect themselves at their end so that you don't have folks constantly switching CC or DCs every 10 seconds.
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Old May 9, 2014, 1:56 pm
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I just did the switch from Serve to Serve with Isis today. Here are some details.

Preparations:
  • Bought an Optimus F6, activated a $3 pay-by-day prepaid plan on t-mobile.com and got a secure SIM from a T-mobile store.
  • Downloaded ISIS app from play store.
  • Zeroed old account and saved all statements.

Today:
  • Logged in to serve.com and closed old account.
  • Opened the ISIS app and signed up an account*.
    Note: I was stupid enough not to use a referral link that would give $10 each to the referrer and the referee (if you need an ISIS referral, PM me).
  • Applied for a Serve card via the ISIS app. Used old information, except (i) phone number set as "home" and not "mobile"; and (ii) swapped digits in SSN by mistake. Got the "pending for review, you'll get an email" message. Same message when logging in to serve.com.
  • Called Serve (number in wiki) and asked how can I help them verify my account. After verifying me**, I was told to upload verifying documents to https://secure.serve.com/user/SecureFileUpload and call back. Possibly can avoid this phone call by uploading the documents beforehand.
  • Uploaded SSN card and DL photos and called again. CSR examined these and approved my account immediately.
  • Logged in to serve.com, there's already $25 credit. Linked debit and credit card; it seems that I can load online, but I didn't try. Limits are still $200/$1000. Hope this change soon.
  • Linked Serve card to ISIS via the app*.
  • Special offer from Coca Cola: 90 MCR points. You get an email with a loyalty card number (636...) that you can link to your MCR account. These are worth 3 free drinks, but it's better to get free drinks via the Serve $1 back promotion

To Do (in 7-10 business days, after physical card arrives):
  • Need activated card to view account number for DD, bill pay, or withdraw to bank.
  • Need card number to load GDMP or to connect twitter for Amex Sync offers.
  • Swipe it at WM

Going to try paying at CVS and at a Coke vending machine now.


* This step requires you to have a working T-mobile data connection. No WiFi.
** When asked, I used the real last 4 digits of SSN.
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Old May 9, 2014, 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by jsmithj88
so are we allowed to pay CC bills with serve?
can i use it to pay my barclay arrival bill?
Yes you can, just hit add payee and follow the instructions...super simple
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Old May 9, 2014, 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by raenye
I just did the switch from Serve to Serve with Isis today. Here are some details.

Preparations:
  • Bought an Optimus F6, activated a $3 pay-by-day prepaid plan on t-mobile.com and got a secure SIM from a T-mobile store.
  • Downloaded ISIS app from play store.
  • Zeroed old account and saved all statements.

Today:
  • Logged in to serve.com and closed old account.
  • Opened the ISIS app and signed up an account*.
    Note: I was stupid enough not to use a referral link that would give $10 each to the referrer and the referee (if you need an ISIS referral, PM me).
  • Applied for a Serve card via the ISIS app. Used old information, except (i) phone number set as "home" and not "mobile"; and (ii) swapped digits in SSN by mistake. Got the "pending for review, you'll get an email" message. Same message when logging in to serve.com.
  • Called Serve (number in wiki) and asked how can I help them verify my account. After verifying me**, I was told to upload verifying documents to https://secure.serve.com/user/SecureFileUpload and call back. Possibly can avoid this phone call by uploading the documents beforehand.
  • Uploaded SSN card and DL photos and called again. CSR examined these and approved my account immediately.
  • Logged in to serve.com, there's already $25 credit. Linked debit and credit card; it seems that I can load online, but I didn't try. Limits are still $200/$1000. Hope this change soon.
  • Linked Serve card to ISIS via the app*.
  • Special offer from Coca Cola: 90 MCR points. You get an email with a loyalty card number (636...) that you can link to your MCR account. These are worth 3 free drinks, but it's better to get free drinks via the Serve $1 back promotion

To Do (in 7-10 business days, after physical card arrives):
  • Need activated card to view account number for DD, bill pay, or withdraw to bank.
  • Need card number to load GDMP or to connect twitter for Amex Sync offers.
  • Swipe it at WM

Going to try paying at CVS and at a Coke vending machine now.


* This step requires you to have a working T-mobile data connection. No WiFi.
** When asked, I used the real last 4 digits of SSN.
excellent, thank you very much for these instructions ^ ... cpl Qs

1) for those on pay as you go plan, do they need to goto a tmo store and specifically ask for a secure sim? then turn on data for one day at a cost of $3 while signing up for ISIS? any particular reasoning why wifi wont/doesnt work?

2) when you say you're going to try payin at cvs, did you mean use your old serve card?

3) how/where did you get the free 90 MCR points? email from amex that your serve is linked to?

for those that dont have an MCR account and would like to give that code away, please feel free to PM me. appreciate it!
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Old May 9, 2014, 5:32 pm
  #3749  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Originally Posted by FTRox87
excellent, thank you very much for these instructions ^ ... cpl Qs

1) for those on pay as you go plan, do they need to goto a tmo store and specifically ask for a secure sim? then turn on data for one day at a cost of $3 while signing up for ISIS? any particular reasoning why wifi wont/doesnt work?
First you can open the ISIS app and see if it complains about the sim. After it did complain, I did just that --- told them ISIS says I need a secured sim and got one on the spot.
Data is needed as ISIS won't validate the account or link a card (including Serve) on WiFi. I first tried the $2 plan, but it didn't work (nor did it charge me $2).
I think that you only need T-mobile data for these two actions, so I'm going to shut off data tomorrow for good.

Originally Posted by FTRox87
2) when you say you're going to try payin at cvs, did you mean use your old serve card?
No. Existing card is dead. The whole point of ISIS is to pay with your phone in stores that have an NFC-equipped register. And they're offering an incentive till the end of June ($1 instant rebate on purchases over $1, up to 50 times a month).
There are also other offers, but this one I liked

Originally Posted by FTRox87
3) how/where did you get the free 90 MCR points? email from amex that your serve is linked to?

for those that dont have an MCR account and would like to give that code away, please feel free to PM me. appreciate it!
In ISIS app: tap the plus icon, browse offers, coca cola free 3 drinks, check box, tap 'use selected offers now'. Then you get an email from ISIS.
You can also use this without an MCR account, just add the number to ISIS as a loyalty card and buy a coke at a vending machine. So don't give away your code so quickly...
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Old May 9, 2014, 5:56 pm
  #3750  
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Originally Posted by raenye
First you can open the ISIS app and see if it complains about the sim. After it did complain, I did just that --- told them ISIS says I need a secured sim and got one on the spot.
Data is needed as ISIS won't validate the account or link a card (including Serve) on WiFi. I first tried the $2 plan, but it didn't work (nor did it charge me $2).
I think that you only need T-mobile data for these two actions, so I'm going to shut off data tomorrow for good.


No. Existing card is dead. The whole point of ISIS is to pay with your phone in stores that have an NFC-equipped register.
gotcha. did you get your device from tmo? wondering how it works for people with factory unlocked iphones but that were ogiinally bought from AT&T with a contract.

lastly, to use nfc based transactions does data need to be on? I guess not since you're gonna turn it off tmrw.
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