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This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old May 6, 2014, 5:11 pm
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probably a stupid question, but if you close your BB account can you still access your historical bill payments? I'm assuming not but just wanted to double check, it's probably not worth it for me otherwise. thank you!
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Old May 6, 2014, 5:12 pm
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Originally Posted by 1stTimeFlyer
probably a stupid question, but if you close your BB account can you still access your historical bill payments? I'm assuming not but just wanted to double check, it's probably not worth it for me otherwise. thank you!
No, you may not access your account.
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Old May 6, 2014, 5:17 pm
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Originally Posted by 1stTimeFlyer
probably a stupid question, but if you close your BB account can you still access your historical bill payments? I'm assuming not but just wanted to double check, it's probably not worth it for me otherwise. thank you!
With Serve you can access your account statements even after you close it. However, if you sign up for Serve again using the same email address then you won't be able to access the old statements. It might be the same for BB.
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Old May 6, 2014, 5:22 pm
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Originally Posted by aceofcards
With Serve you can access your account statements even after you close it. However, if you sign up for Serve again using the same email address then you won't be able to access the old statements. It might be the same for BB.
Not for BB. Once I closed my account, I was locked out and it wanted me to call a number for help.
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Old May 6, 2014, 5:52 pm
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Originally Posted by 1stTimeFlyer
probably a stupid question, but if you close your BB account can you still access your historical bill payments? I'm assuming not but just wanted to double check, it's probably not worth it for me otherwise. thank you!
Do what I did and download all your current statements NOW before you close your BB account. I don't get why this is so difficult.
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Old May 6, 2014, 6:04 pm
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Originally Posted by anagoree
Wiki suggest that BB to Serve has to wait for 30 days.
Does this apply only to online application to Serve?
What will happen if one end up loading balance on Serve Temp card? Money on Serve Temp card will also be locked for 30 days?

Appreciate your advice
When you buy a temp Serve card and initially fund it at WM/CVS,etc you are not signing up for the permanent Serve card on the spot at WM/CVS, etc. You can only apply for the permanent Serve card online. The goal of the temp Serve card is that you can start using the funds in the temp Serve card for in-store purchases with the intent of you signing up for the permanent Serve card. Therefore your funds on your temp Serve card are not locked out for 30 days since you are not associating it with a Serve application in the first place.

Right now if you close BB you have to wait 30 days before applying for Serve. My advice is if you plan to switch from BB to Serve, I would do the following.

1. Call BB to close BB account. Ensure your BB balance is zero before closing.
2. Wait 30 days and then on day 30, buy a temp Serve card and load it with funds (no point in buying the temp Serve card any time before 30 days since you can't sign up for permanent Serve card anyways online)
3. Day 31, go sign up for Serve online using your temp Serve card info.
4. Profit and wait for permanent Serve card to come in the mail.

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Old May 6, 2014, 9:37 pm
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A Heads up (FYI) for all you Serve guys out there! Do not attempt to load 1K with two swipes at WM - BAD IDEA!!!! The email from serve said it right - 500 at a time - so use Kate or ask the cashier to load 500 at a time and you will be happy!!! At least that is what I have found, and if this is already posted elsewhere - sorry for the duplicate post!
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Old May 6, 2014, 9:42 pm
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Originally Posted by raccah
A Heads up (FYI) for all you Serve guys out there! Do not attempt to load 1K with two swipes at WM - BAD IDEA!!!! The email from serve said it right - 500 at a time - so use Kate or ask the cashier to load 500 at a time and you will be happy!!! At least that is what I have found, and if this is already posted elsewhere - sorry for the duplicate post!
I thought it was pretty well known that you should only do $500 at a time in a transaction. I believe anything >$500 in 1 transaction requires ID check and possibly debit card verification which is a NO NO
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Old May 6, 2014, 9:44 pm
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
I thought it was pretty well known that you should only do $500 at a time in a transaction. I believe anything >$500 in 1 transaction requires ID check and possibly debit card verification which is a NO NO
WHAT!!!!! I do BB 1K loads with 2 swipes all the time dude - this is NOT CVS! This is walmart man!!! If you try to load Serve like you load BB - you will be hit with "you exceeded your load limit" error. So keep to 500 at a swipe to LOAD your Server card at WalMart - I hope that clears things up!!!!!!!!!
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Old May 7, 2014, 4:39 am
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
I thought it was pretty well known that you should only do $500 at a time in a transaction. I believe anything >$500 in 1 transaction requires ID check and possibly debit card verification which is a NO NO
You are usually able to split tender for a $1k load at the register, which is why it's much faster than Kate (not to mention the lack of questions). I've never had my DL checked for loads.
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Old May 7, 2014, 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
I thought it was pretty well known that you should only do $500 at a time in a transaction. I believe anything >$500 in 1 transaction requires ID check and possibly debit card verification which is a NO NO
It's not pretty well known as Serve loading at Walmart is new. You can load $1k at a time with BB. Definitely no ID check needed. I do $1k+ all the time for money orders, billpay, and when I had BB.
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Old May 7, 2014, 7:23 am
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
When you buy a temp Serve card and initially fund it at WM/CVS,etc you are not signing up for the permanent Serve card on the spot at WM/CVS, etc. You can only apply for the permanent Serve card online. The goal of the temp Serve card is that you can start using the funds in the temp Serve card for in-store purchases with the intent of you signing up for the permanent Serve card. Therefore your funds on your temp Serve card are not locked out for 30 days since you are not associating it with a Serve application in the first place.

Right now if you close BB you have to wait 30 days before applying for Serve. My advice is if you plan to switch from BB to Serve, I would do the following.

1. Call BB to close BB account. Ensure your BB balance is zero before closing.
2. Wait 30 days and then on day 30, buy a temp Serve card and load it with funds (no point in buying the temp Serve card any time before 30 days since you can't sign up for permanent Serve card anyways online)
3. Day 31, go sign up for Serve online using your temp Serve card info.
4. Profit and wait for permanent Serve card to come in the mail.
This method, however, will not allow you to get the Isis bonus if your phone/carrier is supported. Also, what's the point of a temp card anymore if you can't buy it and initially fund with credit card. Not sure if there are currently still fees to purchase the temp card, but if there are, you are losing money when you can just order it online for free.
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Old May 7, 2014, 7:44 am
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Originally Posted by healthnut
You are usually able to split tender for a $1k load at the register, which is why it's much faster than Kate (not to mention the lack of questions). I've never had my DL checked for loads.
Has this been verified for Serve, though? I used VRs until recently but now am forced to go to WM. I've had no problems loading $500 at a time at the registers. Yesterday, I asked for $1000, split tender. I had a hard time understanding the clerk, but she seemed worried by this amount. She entered the full sum, then the register beeped a few times, and she had to call the manager to void the transaction. Proceeded with $500 at a time, and everything was back to normal. It could have been user error on her part, but I'll stick to $500 for the time being.
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Old May 7, 2014, 7:48 am
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
This method, however, will not allow you to get the Isis bonus if your phone/carrier is supported. Also, what's the point of a temp card anymore if you can't buy it and initially fund with credit card. Not sure if there are currently still fees to purchase the temp card, but if there are, you are losing money when you can just order it online for free.
Well obviously if you qualify for Serve with Isis you should sign up for that. Again those are just general steps on what you would do if you wanted to switch to Serve assuming you can't get Isis. The OP was implying regular Serve since his previous post talked about the temp Serve card. If you want Isis then don't do the 2nd part of step 2 of buying a temp card and switch step 3 with "Download carrier Isis app and sign up with Serve with the app".

The purchase price of the temp card is $1.95 and I don't qualify for Isis since I have Sprint cell service. Oh there is a point to buying the temp card and funding it close to $500 initially. I didn't use credit card to buy the temp card so I guess that makes me an idiot then..... Oh gosh darn.

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Old May 7, 2014, 7:49 am
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Originally Posted by fletch512
Has this been verified for Serve, though? I used VRs until recently but now am forced to go to WM. I've had no problems loading $500 at a time at the registers. Yesterday, I asked for $1000, split tender. I had a hard time understanding the clerk, but she seemed worried by this amount. She entered the full sum, then the register beeped a few times, and she had to call the manager to void the transaction. Proceeded with $500 at a time, and everything was back to normal. It could have been user error on her part, but I'll stick to $500 for the time being.
I'm curious about this too. I know that when I first tried to do split payments at WM register for BB (months ago), the cashier was directly asked if I was doing split payments. When I answered yes, it said I had to proceed to the Money Center. So I don't know what the rule is. It wouldn't be a big deal to do $500 and $500 at a normal register for me, but yesterday I had $200 GCs. I didn't want to do 5 different swipes (x2) at a register.
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