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This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by bingunginter
I read that can't have both at the same time but I have bluebird account and also serve account. Am I just lucky ?
yep, avoid calling either for any reason if you like it that way.
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by maksimfa
Why don't you pay off the credit card instead?

No reason to dirty up your checking account when you don't have to.
So are you guys loading the serve account with a CC then bill paying the same cc with the serve account? Is that ok? Seems like that would get flagged.

What is everyone doing to withdrawal all the money you're loading onto the serve? If I'm loading the max 6k / 7k with isis. Thats a lot of money to have to figure out how to pay the CC back.
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by kkwong5
So are you guys loading the serve account with a CC then bill paying the same cc with the serve account? Is that ok? Seems like that would get flagged.

What is everyone doing to withdrawal all the money you're loading onto the serve? If I'm loading the max 6k / 7k with isis. Thats a lot of money to have to figure out how to pay the CC back.
Then this game isn't for you.
Log out and never come back.
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 3:41 pm
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I went to 2 CVSs today with my Serve card for the first time with my newish Citi AA Executive card. The first $500 went through, the second got declined. I had to use a different CC for the second $500 load to reach the $1k/day max. At the second CVS, I bought two NetSpend Visa Prepaid cards. Same thing, the first $500 went through and the second failed. I'm probably hitting a fraud alert of some kind. Interestingly, I was able to buy $1k in VR earlier in the week in one transaction. Has anyone else had this issue, or have experience resolving it? Does it go away on its own eventually, or do I have to call customer service?
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 3:59 pm
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Originally Posted by f0xx
Then this game isn't for you.
Log out and never come back.
I must be a bad person, because this made my laugh - a lot.
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by kkwong5
So are you guys loading the serve account with a CC then bill paying the same cc with the serve account? Is that ok? Seems like that would get flagged.

What is everyone doing to withdrawal all the money you're loading onto the serve? If I'm loading the max 6k / 7k with isis. Thats a lot of money to have to figure out how to pay the CC back.
If you feel uncomfortable it, then just pay other bills too. Mortgage, rent, homeowners association, utilities, student loans, other credit cards, etc. That way you aren't just paying straight to the same credit card.
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 4:39 pm
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
If you feel uncomfortable it, then just pay other bills too. Mortgage, rent, homeowners association, utilities, student loans, other credit cards, etc. That way you aren't just paying straight to the same credit card.
No I'm ok with it if that's what everyone else is doing. Just trying to figure what I can do without getting booted.
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 4:59 pm
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The Wiki says that loading money online with Amex CC is treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles. How about loading money with Old Blue Cash at CVS? Can we get 5% cashback for purchases after 6.5k?
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 6:08 pm
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Originally Posted by kkwong5
No I'm ok with it if that's what everyone else is doing. Just trying to figure what I can do without getting booted.
Like I said. If you can't handle the heat, or the consequences that can be had by doing this. Then log out and don't come back. It isn't for you.

Do your research. Do the amount that you feel comfortable with, and can float. If you can't float the money or be without it for a while then you shouldn't be playing.

Originally Posted by adminds
The Wiki says that loading money online with Amex CC is treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles. How about loading money with Old Blue Cash at CVS? Can we get 5% cashback for purchases after 6.5k?

This question has been asked a MILLION times. The no earning points only applies to ONLINE. When you load it at the STORE it's just shown as a regular CVS purchase. So yes.
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 6:46 pm
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Serve - Another Paypal/Amazon Payments.

Just as a practical matter, I find that you should use 2 different credit cards to load $500 twice. There is no rhyme or reason for this, just do it that way and you won't have any problems.
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 7:55 pm
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Originally Posted by taildragger
Just as a practical matter, I find that you should use 2 different credit cards to load $500 twice. There is no rhyme or reason for this, just do it that way and you won't have any problems.
I wonder if there is some program some of the card issuers to use to block the same amount to the same merchant within a period of time, thinking it is a double charge. It would be interesting to see if the problem goes away if one swipe is 499.80 or something.
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 8:01 pm
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Originally Posted by lkar
I wonder if there is some program some of the card issuers to use to block the same amount to the same merchant within a period of time, thinking it is a double charge. It would be interesting to see if the problem goes away if one swipe is 499.80 or something.
Or what happened when I tried milking the BP discount. Used the same card twice and wouldn't allow go through the second time.

Though yes, could be that. Or a fraudulent based restriction.
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 9:41 pm
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I know this has been discussed, but I can't seem to dig up where (either in this thread, or the BB one) because the term "amex" is too common when searching. Basically, is loading Serve with Amex at CVS (w/ a real CC, SPG or BC) and then using bill pay to pay off said Amex CC just asking for trouble? I'm sure it's YMMV based on spending habits, but is it just a dumb idea? I don't think twice about paying Chase, Citi, or Barclay, but I'm worried that because it's all under the Amex umbrella it could lead to an FR and/or closure.
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 9:51 pm
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Originally Posted by lkar
I wonder if there is some program some of the card issuers to use to block the same amount to the same merchant within a period of time, thinking it is a double charge. It would be interesting to see if the problem goes away if one swipe is 499.80 or something.


The answer is yes as it seems to depend on the bank. I've often got blocked when I tried to pay for same sales grocery store item a 2nd time using the same card. But when I added something else and bill was no longer the same the sale went through. But just to note that never worked a third time with the same store on the same day no matter what the amt was.
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Old Mar 21, 2014, 9:54 pm
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Originally Posted by ccohen322
I know this has been discussed, but I can't seem to dig up where (either in this thread, or the BB one) because the term "amex" is too common when searching. Basically, is loading Serve with Amex at CVS (w/ a real CC, SPG or BC) and then using bill pay to pay off said Amex CC just asking for trouble? I'm sure it's YMMV based on spending habits, but is it just a dumb idea? I don't think twice about paying Chase, Citi, or Barclay, but I'm worried that because it's all under the Amex umbrella it could lead to an FR and/or closure.
Your question has been asked a million times in this thread. Not to mention the BlueBird thread.

To some people, they don't care.
To others, they do care.

Depends on who you are and what you think. People have done it quite a bit and have had no issues.
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