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Old Oct 25, 2013, 11:21 am
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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by f0xx
Just loaded $500 from my FIA AMEX. Looks good so far.
But does anyone know what FIA's zip code is? It was asked when adding them as a Payee.
Did you ever figure out that bill pay address?
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 10:48 am
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Recently got my serve card and linked my CC and a debit card to the acct. this would enable me to fund the serve card online.
If I wanted to load at CVS, am I limited to just the cards I have linked to the serve acct or can I use any CC I want to load? Thanks
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by Fuerza
Did you ever figure out that bill pay address?
I typed FIA Card Services and it gave me the option. Doesn't look like it'll be a 2 day payment. Said it should be March 24th. So I'm assuming it's by snail mail.
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by anagoree
Also, can anybody confirm if one can get 5% bonus reward for Serve load at CVS using old AmEx Blue CC?

I know Wiki suggest not getting reward for online load but not clear about CVS in-store load.
Sigh. Once again.....

AMEX sees the load IN STORE as a normal purchase, as if you were buying beans.
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 11:00 am
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Originally Posted by f0xx
Sigh. Once again.....

AMEX sees the load IN STORE as a normal purchase, as if you were buying beans.
Should someone put this in the wiki? LOL. I swear it's being asked on every other page.
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 11:03 am
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
Should someone put this in the wiki? LOL. I swear it's being asked on every other page.
Too complicated on my phone. People just need to go back a freaking page and read.
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 11:03 am
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Originally Posted by birdhands
I'm just about to hit the very few CVSs in my area and I want to iron out one point:
Am I correct in thinking that, if I only have 1 CC, then I can't put more than $500 on each Serve acct per transaction? So I can hand over 2 Serve cards and then load $1k with the 1 CC, right? If I want to then do a second identical transaction with the same card is that ok? I'm just trying to knock out my Citi Exec 10k in 1 month with 2 Serve accts. Put another way, is the only way to load the full $1k to 1 acct in one visit to use either 2 cards and split payment or 2 transactions?
Regardless of how many credit cards you have, you can only do $500 per Serve card per transaction. You can however do 2+ Serve cards at $500 each in one transactions and then rinse and repeat. Whether or not you can do a second identical transaction on the same credit card is up to your credit card company. Some report having issues of fraud alert so YMMV but you won't know your particular card situation until you try.
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 11:53 am
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No problem doing 500 and 499 back to back on a citi card today. YMMV.
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 11:59 am
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Thanks for clarification.

Its a good idea to have it added in Wiki
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by anagoree
Thanks for clarification.

Its a good idea to have it added in Wiki
Why?

Multiple transactions has nothing to do with cvs and everything with your card.

I can charge $5k and not get a peep, someone else may get a fraud alert at $500. I would think people attempting ms would know enough about that, however a large part of ms is learning and figuring things out for self , especially when things go wrong.

I fully believe wikis are great for experienced people entering new programs, however not for someone brand new. For them, they have to figure it out by reading and doing.

Ie, things like reference such as limits, etc, should be in wiki, but common sense stuff like your credit card may throw off alert, is common sense and should not be. It merely encourages unprepared people, gives them enough rope to hang themselves and everyone else.

People need to understand the game itself, not merely the steps on how to reproduce a result. We can hand hold them and give them steps, but they need to figure it out for themselves the why behind things.



It was evident in the last two months after serve announced in store loading. There were a few folks who understood this game changer from experience, then came people who need things spelled out..... They are not ready.

Only by spending enough time reading and thinking for themselves they will figure it out. . Handholding, points and arrows merely gives a newbie instructions to build a bomb.
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 2:19 pm
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Serve - Pay Bill via ACH Pull

I have a $1000 monthy bill that doesn't accept credit card but does support an ACH Pull from a checking account. Since a Serve account has a Amex Centurion Bank Routing and Account Number for direct deposit is "safe" to pay the bill through an ACH pull or it is better to use the Billpay feature which is slower due to using a mailed paper check?
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 2:24 pm
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I wanted to add a debit card to transfer in $100 per say. But it is my spouses. The serve site says the card name must match. Can anyone shed some light on if this is true or if they verify?
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Mitch Bart
I have a $1000 monthy bill that doesn't accept credit card but does support an ACH Pull from a checking account. Since a Serve account has a Amex Centurion Bank Routing and Account Number for direct deposit is "safe" to pay the bill through an ACH pull or it is better to use the Billpay feature which is slower due to using a mailed paper check?
You can not ACH pull, try to use bill pay.
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 2:46 pm
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Originally Posted by psone
I wanted to add a debit card to transfer in $100 per say. But it is my spouses. The serve site says the card name must match. Can anyone shed some light on if this is true or if they verify?
One time may be ok but several times-no.
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Old Mar 22, 2014, 3:17 pm
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Originally Posted by f0xx
What are you not seeing?
With ISIS Serve I get:

$1500/mo online CC load.
$5K/mo in store swipe fee free or VR.

What's wrong with that?
Yes, I see it. Question was why isn't eveyrone else jumping on this ASAP, or so it seems that way..
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