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f0xx Jun 10, 2014 8:22 pm


Originally Posted by Blackhawk8 (Post 23013566)
What address do you use when liquidating AGC through AP? I entered the same information that I have on my Amex account (I was logged in when I bought the gift card) and my transaction has been pending for a few hours.

It'll fail and introduce increased scrutiny to your Amazon Payments account. Congrats. ^
Read before you attempt things. It's been mentioned in the AMEX thread over and over again what you have to do. :o

CALL AMEX and set an address on the card.

thoughts1053 Jun 10, 2014 9:51 pm


Originally Posted by sharka (Post 23012151)
Did you both use the same bank acct?

Nope. Separate bank accounts.

sechs Jun 10, 2014 11:16 pm


Originally Posted by f0xx (Post 23013604)
It'll fail and introduce increased scrutiny to your Amazon Payments account. Congrats. ^
Read before you attempt things. It's been mentioned in the AMEX thread over and over again what you have to do. :o

CALL AMEX and set an address on the card.

I've never set an address on AmEx gift cards. Have I been doing this wrong?

DaveInLA Jun 10, 2014 11:38 pm


Originally Posted by sechs (Post 23014362)

I've never set an address on AmEx gift cards. Have I been doing this wrong?

Neither have I.

FlyingBoat Jun 11, 2014 4:34 am


Originally Posted by FlyingBoat (Post 22911860)
I have 3 of my 10 family accounts shut down this morning. Had most accounts open for years. For this year, I have been always logging in from different IP address for each.

Possible triggers?

1. Did an AP to one of the closed accounts yesterday. (from one of the accounts which hasn't been shut down yet.)
2. The closed account receiving the payment yesterday pays each month to one of the other ones which have been shut down.
3. Each of the three accounts had a balance in them of between $890 to $995. (Which I have 10 days to withdraw. One just accumulated the balance yesterday when receiving the payment.)
4. Two of the accounts were my own, with the same SSN set up earlier back when we could do that. Neither of these were the one which received the payment yesterday.
5. The other account was registered under different last name than the individuals current name. (Changed name at marriage.)
6. Starting this year I have been doing AGC, prior to that it was always CC. (Though the closed acct receiving payment yesterday was from a CC.)
7. I switched my normal pattern across the 10 accounts last month but I don't think I did any A-B where there was a previous B-A.


So, not sure what did it.

Thinking if they are smart, I will probably get them all closed if they follow the trail A-B, B-C etc.

Deciding whether I should do AP on the live accounts this month (if they stay open), or if I should let them lay for a while. Not sure if the change in pattern would cause a flag or not. Thinking at this point to let them lay, since the closure occurred within a day of receiving payment.

FYI, all closure emails came in at the same time, 3:46AM.

Well all 10 accounts in this ring have been suspended. I checked and a couple of months ago when I switched some order, due to a mess up, I did end up on one of the accounts with a B to A, where there was a previous B to A. So that was probably the mistake that caused this.

The only accounts which received a notice were the ones with a balance in them. I didn't receive notice on the ones without a balance, but could only tell when I logged into them and saw they were suspended.

cdancer20 Jun 11, 2014 5:51 am


Originally Posted by f0xx (Post 23013604)
It'll fail and introduce increased scrutiny to your Amazon Payments account. Congrats. ^
Read before you attempt things. It's been mentioned in the AMEX thread over and over again what you have to do. :o

CALL AMEX and set an address on the card.


Originally Posted by sechs (Post 23014362)
I've never set an address on AmEx gift cards. Have I been doing this wrong?


Originally Posted by DaveInLA (Post 23014436)
Neither have I.

Nope. No address required for AP. Been doing it for months w/o registering.

yorkman Jun 11, 2014 6:47 am

Just starting my journey into this MS thing and am starting small. Opened AP and Serve accts for my wife and I and am planning on just doing 1k per month for each of those to meet a few spending requirements.

Opened both AP accts and verified both with different CC and Bank accts. Sent payment from a->b using card. Went through fine on a side, but when I try to claim at B, it is giving me the due to federal regulations message.... like the account is not verified again.

I feel like I have read most of the 280 pages of this post, and haven't noticed this in there.

anyone have this issue?

cdancer20 Jun 11, 2014 7:37 am


Originally Posted by yorkman (Post 23015638)
Just starting my journey into this MS thing and am starting small. Opened AP and Serve accts for my wife and I and am planning on just doing 1k per month for each of those to meet a few spending requirements.

Opened both AP accts and verified both with different CC and Bank accts. Sent payment from a->b using card. Went through fine on a side, but when I try to claim at B, it is giving me the due to federal regulations message.... like the account is not verified again.

I feel like I have read most of the 280 pages of this post, and haven't noticed this in there.

anyone have this issue?

I had this issue once. It was b/c we hadn't added a "real" credit card to the acct. It only had an Amex GC on there. I just added a second credit card (i.e. the Serve card) and it worked fine.

mh1361 Jun 11, 2014 7:42 am


Originally Posted by thoughts1053 (Post 23011839)
Both accounts were verified. After trying to withdraw to the bank account did they lock me out.

So you had a balance in your AP and tried to withdraw it to your Serve account, which was verified (through test deposits?), and that's when they locked you out and said that Serve needs to fax them something? I'm planning on doing this in a couple days, hopefully it won't get hung up like this. It seems like a lot of people have done this successfully so I'm not sure what the hold up would be.

raccah Jun 11, 2014 8:45 am


Originally Posted by cdancer20 (Post 23015410)
Nope. No address required for AP. Been doing it for months w/o registering.

When you mean no address required, you mean you did not call up AGC and ask them to set the address for your gift card - correct? Cool, I have always been doing it never thought to try without it. I KNOW it is required for GCM to buy VGC

cdancer20 Jun 11, 2014 8:51 am


Originally Posted by raccah (Post 23016280)
When you mean no address required, you mean you did not call up AGC and ask them to set the address for your gift card - correct? Cool, I have always been doing it never thought to try without it. I KNOW it is required for GCM to buy VGC

Exactly. No calls for AP. Just opened the card envelope and input the CC info into AP while adding the AP acct owner's name as the CC owner.

thoughts1053 Jun 11, 2014 10:58 am


Originally Posted by mh1361 (Post 23015909)
So you had a balance in your AP and tried to withdraw it to your Serve account, which was verified (through test deposits?), and that's when they locked you out and said that Serve needs to fax them something? I'm planning on doing this in a couple days, hopefully it won't get hung up like this. It seems like a lot of people have done this successfully so I'm not sure what the hold up would be.

Yeah. I went straight to the max limit. However, I have another account C > A where I did 495 (to unload an AGC) and had no problems withdrawing to Serve.

yorkman Jun 11, 2014 11:27 am


Originally Posted by cdancer20 (Post 23015878)
I had this issue once. It was b/c we hadn't added a "real" credit card to the acct. It only had an Amex GC on there. I just added a second credit card (i.e. the Serve card) and it worked fine.

Thanks for the response. It does have a discover card attached to the account though.

whitesol Jun 11, 2014 12:27 pm

Just FYI, did our monthly triangle today and noticed that if you have a balance it will automatically take from there instead of asking you where you would like it from. This is a change from the last time we did it.

So to save people from my headache.
If you have a balance from someone else, withdraw it before sending it to the next person, otherwise it'll automatically pull from there and not give you the option of your credit card.

cdancer20 Jun 11, 2014 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by whitesol (Post 23017749)
Just FYI, did our monthly triangle today and noticed that if you have a balance it will automatically take from there instead of asking you where you would like it from. This is a change from the last time we did it.

So to save people from my headache.
If you have a balance from someone else, withdraw it before sending it to the next person, otherwise it'll automatically pull from there and not give you the option of your credit card.

Yep happened to me. However, this does not affect your monthly $1k limit for sending/receiving for credit cards. It took me until 12:30am EST on the 1st day of the month to realized this...luckily it was only 9:30 pm on the last day of the month, Amazon time.


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