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MHUPGRADE SUCCESSFUL UPGRADE OFFER PRICES
(origin - destination, offer price accepted, post #)

ECONOMY to BUSINESS
KUL - ADL SGD250 #203
KUL - AKL USD325 #447
KUL - BKK SGD80 #70
KUL - BKK USD65 #450
KUL - CAN MYR345 #358
KUL - CMB MYR576 #686
KUL - CGK USD60 #153
KUL - CGK MYR220 #230
KUL - DAC MYR551 #112
KUL - DPS SGD80 #70
KUL - DPS AUD75 #114
KUL - HAN AUD90 #209
KUL - HKG MYR480 #393
KUL - HKT USD50
KUL - HYD GBP90 #54
KUL - HYD USD90 #452
KUL - ICN SGD140
KUL - ICN MYR402 #343
KUL - ICN EUR120 #354
KUL - KIX MYR452 #472
KUL - KUA MYR143 #349
KUL - KCH MYR150 #287
KUL - LGK MYR263 #505
KUL - LHR MYR3,350 #67
KUL - MEL MYR1,005 #262
KUL - MEL MYR1300
KUL - PEK MYR345 #338
KUL - PEN MYR170 #268
KUL - PER GBP135 #309
KUL - PER USD150 #335
KUL - PER MYR524 #336
KUL - PNH MYR200 #404
KUL - PVG SGD120 #30, 225
KUL - PVG USD105 #169, 217
KUL - REP MYR150 #123
KUL - RGN MYR305 #333
KUL - SGN MYR210 #141
KUL - SIN MYR30 #52
KUL - SIN SGD50 #267
KUL - SYD SGD300 #267

AMS - KUL GBP450 #152
BKK - KUL GBP80 #54
BKK - KUL USD65 #452
BNE - KUL AUD215 #2
BWN - KUL USD60 #394
CAN - KUL MYR350 #358
DAC - KUL USD120 #479
DPS - KUL AUD70 #121
DPS - KUL USD60 #216
DXB - KUL USD200
HKG - KUL SGD120 #53
HKG - KUL HKD810 #266
HKG - KUL HKD805 #290
HKT - KUL MYR30 #52
HKT - KUL NZD55 #447
HYD - KUL USD90 #450
ICN - KUL SGD140
JHB - KUL MYR100
KIX - KUL MYR452 #445
KCH - BKI MYR200 #344
KCH - KUL MYR150 #287
LGK - KUL GBP20 #44
LGK - KUL MYR263 #505
MAA - KUL SGD125 #163
MEL - KUL AUD230 #1
MEL - KUL AUD305 #140
MEL - KUL AUD480 #16
MEL - KUL AUD400 #312
MEL - KUL MYR1,300 #312
MNL - KUL USD140 #482
MYY - KUL MYR270 #715
PEK - KUL MYR500 #323
PEK - KUL GBP80 #332
PEK - KUL MYR345 #340
PER - KUL USD160 #350
PVG - KUL USD105 #167
REP - KUL USD45 #334
RGN - KUL USD65 #506
SDK - KUL MYR150 #154
SGN - KUL MYR200 #141
SIN - KUL SGD85 #213
SIN - KUL SGD50 #267
SYD - KUL AUD260 #172, 208
SYD - KUL AUD300 #456
SYD - KUL AUD330 #215
SYD - KUL AUD400 #468
SYD - KUL MYR810 #325
TPE - KUL SGD110 #391

BUSINESS to FIRST
KUL - CDG MYR5,000 #67
LHR - KUL USD2,750 #4


MHUpgrade is MH's implementation of Plusgrade's bid on an upgrade platform.
  • You can check if your itinerary is eligible for bidding on an upgrade (most are) on MH's website here, but it typically takes 24-48 hours after the ticket is issued for the itinerary to be in Plusgrade's system
  • You cannot bid for flights departing within 72 hours
  • Minimum bids are dynamically set based on various factors, and don't appear to change as you get closer to flight departure
  • Tip: If you're bidding the minimum, you should consider making the bid in USD unless bidding in your home currency avoids credit card costs that are higher than the difference in pricing (see this post)
  • Bid amounts can be changed or withdrawn up to 72 hours from flight departure. It does not appear that you can update the credit card number
  • Accepted bids will be processed within the 72 hours window, generally prior to 48 hours to departure
  • If your bid is accepted:
    • The credit card will be charged
    • You will be rebooked in "I" class for business class, "P" class for first class
    • You will receive an email notification from Plusgrade
    • You will receive an email with your new eTicket from the airline
  • Within MH Enrich, mileage accrual is based on the fare class on your original ticket. For partner programs, without manual intervention, your mileage accrual is based on the class you've been rebooked into, not the one from your original ticket. Retro claims based on original booking may be required, it is unclear yet if they will be accepted or not.
    • Note that "I" earns nothing, including no segment credits or tier points (it's as if you never took the flight) on AA, BA, CX, and probably other carriers (check your program's information), so from a frequent flyer standpoint you might end up worse off
    • There are multiple reports from multiple users in this thread that mileage on partner programs (BA) will be credited based on the earning rates (if any) from original booking class, following manual intervention/claim.
  • Please read MH's FAQs
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Old Nov 20, 2019, 4:08 am
  #826  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Originally Posted by SHT88T
Can confirm last minute at the counter still works.
It does, but last time I tried a few hours before departure from KUL (home base!), I was told that we would still get J class meal if we paid to upgrade to F (KUL-KIX). Needless to say, that was turned down.
Another brilliant example of MH's brilliant way of driving business
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Old Nov 20, 2019, 8:10 pm
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Originally Posted by SKT-DK
It does, but last time I tried a few hours before departure from KUL (home base!), I was told that we would still get J class meal if we paid to upgrade to F (KUL-KIX). Needless to say, that was turned down.
Another brilliant example of MH's brilliant way of driving business
From my Dom paid upgrade experience. I actually only got my J Class seat like within 1 hour to departure and somewhat they managed to load the Satay and another selection (sandwich if i not mistaken) onboard with me the only one in J class.

Cant think of any reason why they do not want to do the same for international flight, surely they have spares somewhere in the catering dept. I am sure someone can drive a vehicle and pass the extra F meal directly.

On the other hand, I upgrade myself from Prem Eco to Business in JL using points on day of departure and I got full J service. The catch is the booking class/miles collected will be based on original booking class which is fairly understandable (instead paying for F but stuck with J meal in F seat )
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Old Nov 21, 2019, 12:33 am
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
a) Any booking class
b) Same
c) Same

Note that you will not get frequent flyer points because the business class upgrade is booked in "I" class which earns zero miles on other FFP except enrich.
So my question was basically, are all upgraded tickets booked into I class ? It seems yes.
I booked now paid business but just got the offer to place a bid for business suite. What booking class would that be booked in if my offer was accepted?
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Old Nov 21, 2019, 11:34 pm
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Originally Posted by TheAirman
So my question was basically, are all upgraded tickets booked into I class ? It seems yes.
I booked now paid business but just got the offer to place a bid for business suite. What booking class would that be booked in if my offer was accepted?
Suites upgrades book into P class, which is a non-earning booking class just like I on MH.
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Old Nov 22, 2019, 12:18 am
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Originally Posted by SKT-DK
Suites upgrades book into P class, which is a non-earning booking class just like I on MH.
That's not correct, not for all programs. See my post above, AA updated it to count as 150% earning.
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Old Nov 22, 2019, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim
That's not correct, not for all programs. See my post above, AA updated it to count as 150% earning.
I would be looking at BA EC and I think P also earns there.
Yet the minimum bid for PVG-KUL is 750 USD - so far from worth it. Are last minute upgrades usually cheaper ?
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Old Nov 22, 2019, 4:17 pm
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I saw a youtuber do a last minute upgrade at check in for NRT to KUL, he spent 30k yen or about 270 USD. Seems like maybe worth if this price at check in
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Old Nov 23, 2019, 5:28 am
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Originally Posted by dici
I saw a youtuber do a last minute upgrade at check in for NRT to KUL, he spent 30k yen or about 270 USD. Seems like maybe worth if this price at check in
Yeah I'm being offered 33K yen (~$290) for KUL-NRT on the overnight on the 380. Flight is F7 so I suspect I should be able to clear with that price, just trying to figure out whether I care enough to, or not...
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Old Nov 24, 2019, 9:18 pm
  #834  
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
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A data point.

I am looking to fly MNL-KUL-SIN in 2 days time.

I am only interested in the MNL-KUL leg. Previously, the upgrade bid started at $185, then raised to $190. Today it started at $175, with a "buy now" option of $240. Anyway, I opted for the minimum, $175. Then immediately went to "modify" bid to check whether the $240 "buy now" was still available and applied to the whole journey. It wasn't there, but I was able to lower my bid to the new minimum of $150. We wait to see if it is successful.

I wonder if as a general rule there is a lower "minimum bid" in the "modify bid" than in the initial upgrade bid.

UPDATE: Was upgraded after a whole 5 minutes.

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Old Nov 24, 2019, 9:31 pm
  #835  
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The upgd price seems more expensive than if bought in advance..you could actually fly return to most destinations for the oneway upgd offered.
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Old Nov 24, 2019, 10:29 pm
  #836  
 
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Fair comment. My single MNL-KUL-SIN was about 100USD (250usd if you include the upgrade). J fare at the time I booked was 300+ so I know I paid less. SQ who I have used in the past charges about 190USD economy one way (and I am *G and the SQ lounge in Manila is decent for Manila standards).

I need a single as I then have an open Jaw from Singapore which returns to Manila. And I have luggage which negates the LCCs.

I feel 150usd is about the value of the upgrade for myself. I value the MNL lounge at 25USD (as that's the walk in fee with my Credit Card's priority pass) and a flagship lounge in KUL at 50USD. So the better seat is valued at 75USD (I need to nap on that leg).

Granted one might say SQ Y (who serve ice-cream...ICE-CREAM as desert) is better than MH J...and I will soon know (This is my first time on MH). But I live a 6hrs from the MNL airport and I feel a 6am flight may work better than a 2pm flight for me.

I'll let you know what I think
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Old Nov 25, 2019, 8:04 am
  #837  
 
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Originally Posted by TheAirman
I would be looking at BA EC and I think P also earns there.
Yet the minimum bid for PVG-KUL is 750 USD - so far from worth it. Are last minute upgrades usually cheaper ?
Aren't the PVG flights operated by A330s only? How to upgrade to business suite when there are no business suites on the A330s?
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Old Nov 25, 2019, 8:15 am
  #838  
 
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Originally Posted by lowjhg
Aren't the PVG flights operated by A330s only? How to upgrade to business suite when there are no business suites on the A330s?
Yes to my knowledge my flight in question is operated by a A330, yet I got the email with the possibility to put in a bid. Maybe they anticipate to change it to a A350 in March 2020 ? Or the system is flawed ?
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Old Nov 25, 2019, 11:40 am
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KUL to KTM bid the fare price of $135 each for two people. Was confirmed 3 days out.

It now shows I class, but that doesn't list on AA for earning, will I earn anything?
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Old Nov 25, 2019, 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by chitink
KUL to KTM bid the fare price of $135 each for two people. Was confirmed 3 days out.

It now shows I class, but that doesn't list on AA for earning, will I earn anything?
You will earn based on the booking class of your original ticket (presumably in economy class). You may find you need to do a retrospective claim for the points with evidence of your original booking. Your economy ticket needs to be in Y, B, H, K, M, L, S or V class to earn on AA. Booking classes N, O, Q earn nothing.
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