Pickles

During renovations it seems large chunks of the hotel will be closed or limited access, including the lobby, the pool, and many of the restaurants. I probably wouldn't touch the MO at pretty much any price until the renovations are complete, unless all I was looking for was a place to sleep (and who knows about that, I wonder about construction noise?). And this is coming from somebody who thinks the MO Bangkok is the finest city hotel in the planet.

Aventine

Any welcome or hotel opening amenities?

LondonMiles

I think the Welcome amenity must have been some cheese in the room. We did not try it though as the room was so warm on arrival.

Kacee

I had the same problem with my initial room assignment. Temp in the room was in the high 20s, AC was having no noticeable impact, and it was not tolerable. This simply should not happen at a 5*. SGS and StR always manage to have a reasonably cool room ready for me.

My request to move to a room that was not boiling hot ultimately led them to upgrade me to a Manor Suite.

MikeFromTokyo

Aventine

The black "Mickey Mouse" tables and the rest of the furniture at PH are atrocious. The entire hotel looks like a cheap airport lounge or waiting area.

scented

Had already glimpsed at your posts over in the Hyatt forum, you are quite right about this. Was the service as warm and caring as Michael Golden wants to make us believe?

Aventine

Not particularly. Kind, but somewhat impersonal. GH Erawan staff were much warmer and personal to us. We shall see about Rosewood in a few hours. PH is really about form over function.

Aventine

Currently boiling in the ground lobby. Absolutely no air conditioning. PH seems to be very frugal with aircon usage in hallways, elevators and common spaces.

@bhrubin should stay very far away from here and I will too next BKK trip.

scented

Aventine

I've heard it will be a monster of a resort. A first for the ultra high end.

Kalboz

New luxury properties are scheduled to come online this year in Bangkok:

Orient Express Mahanakhon Bangkok
Capella Bangkok
Rosewood Bangkok
Four Seasons Hotel Bangkok at Chao Phraya River
Hotel Nikko Bangkok

https://newthaihotels.com/2019-new-t...104021704704:0

escape4

Moving the conversation from the PH BKK thread into here because too many of my comments are general in nature rather than PH BKK specific...

Well maybe, but I won't give up Globalist status just to test those waters. I enjoy my 4 guaranteed suite upgrades per year of 6-7 days each. I will instead let you be the friendly guinea pig and inform the rest of us

In fairness in some of your examples you are paying for such suites by using points; it's not complimentary like when we book the basic room at StR or PH and get a suite. But I take your point that non elites can probably achieve good suites by paying with points at Hyatts, and it would be far more onerous for a non-elite at Marriott to pay for a suite with points.

Regardless if the breakfast is free or not, one thing is very clear is that StR has a subpar breakfast relative to PH, WA, and even subpar relative to Athenee and SGS. I would dare to say LM, Ren, and W all have a better breakfast than StR too in some aspects. F&B is not the strength of this StR; someone who cares more about breakfast than you do would be happier with PH not StR.

Understood, I have myself banned some brands completely due to a few bad experiences. However the consequence is that we sometimes throw out the baby with the bath water, in this case you are depriving yourself of WA BKK. But as mentioned I have been guilty of doing the same on occasion so who am I to point fingers

Since you value F&B, I would suggest if you stay at StR you may want to walk from StR to WA next door to try the WA roof top bar which will blow StR out of the water (and PH too), it's not even close.

Agreed, and that's why I end up having more than double the nights at Marriott properties than Hyatt properties. I wish PH BKK was better than it is, but unfortunately it's not a prime choice so it gets less than 5% of my stays in BKK.

I agree less with this statement than the previous statements. SGS does not have a lounge, but lots of guests enjoy happy hour and the great drinking venues. StR makes the business decision to be far more stingy with happy hour for Platinums. Athenee has a lounge which is well liked, but I would argue Athenee has other things to offer as well, as mentioned a superior breakfast and also the Royal Club Suite I had last time was a better hard product than the aging suites at StR. So depending on the room type you choose, do not automatically assume the hard product of StR will be better. For hard product of standard suites, my rankings are WA>PH>Athenee>StR>SGS. For entry level rooms StR is better than Athenee.

Also, specifically because StR is not clearly a step above SGS and Athenee, price is not much higher. I do not find lots of people choosing SGS or Athenee due to price. On average StR is only $50-60 more expensive (25%) than the LCs so it's not a major point in decision making in my opinion. Location, yes perhaps more so.

Correct. StR BKK is far from perfect and lots of people prefer the LCs = = what I wanted to convey is that if StR is better than PH, it's not because StR is great, it's because PH has flaws. In some other cities, PH is a great choice, but I choose StR because it's fantastic... in such situations I can still recommend PH to Hyatt loyalists. But in BKK you get better value at GH or HR for people who do not care about Marriott options.

Probably a decent suite, yes, but it won't blow you away like other upgrades you have received elsewhere, and not on par with top suites in BKK. If you want the wow factor I would recommend you book the Grand Met Suite and you have decent odds of CA suite and then you will get that "very nice suite" you are looking for. I concur with @Kacee that this is what you should be shooting for: CA suite or above. Below that it will be ok but not memorable.

Glad we could help - I get lots of useful from you in other threads so I am happy if I can return the favor once in a while. In any event hotel quality in BKK is higher than other parts of the world so we are just arguing about where to get the cream of the crop. Relative to U.S. hotels you will be better off almost everywhere you pick.

HKTraveler

bhrubin