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Old Mar 7, 2012, 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by speedbird001
Note to Ericka
Ericka? its not her job to come up with description after description.

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absolultly top...Isn't that what everyone wants to know.
as discussed, not exactly.

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If you don't allow that
uh, who doesnt allow? allow = moderators.

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you will be missing key information.
how will discussion that is not missing now become missing?

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Then it is the moderators job to determine if it doesn't belong.
this is why i havent been posting. while telling moderators what to do may not be considered 'discussing moderation' (FT TOS violation) i personally dont want to go there.

Originally Posted by Ericka
Discussion regarding the very best hotels in a given location.
i applaud your continued effort.

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Old Mar 7, 2012, 10:50 am
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Originally Posted by Ericka
Discussion regarding the very best hotels in a given location. These may include, but are not limited to, Four Seasons, Amanresorts, Peninsula, Mandarin Oriental, and Dorchester, as well as independently-owned hotels.

?????? This is getting very long.
Unfortunately it has to be longer.

Regarding chains that have existing forums such as Starwood, IHG, Marriott, etc., those hotels can be noted here if they are a top luxury hotel in a given market. However further discussion should be referred to the master thread for that hotel in the proper forum.
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Old Mar 7, 2012, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by stimpy
Unfortunately it has to be longer.
= ?

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Old Mar 7, 2012, 10:57 am
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"first" question ??

A include examples
B do not include examples
C >
Originally Posted by Kettering Northants QC
Rough idea
A forum to discuss and debate the very top rung of luxury hotels around the world - be they small inns, converted palaces, plush large city hotels or modern beach resorts - if they're the VERY best and a genuine contender for the top 100 in the world then discuss them here

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Old Mar 11, 2012, 10:13 am
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I am vehemently opposed to including examples in the form of names of hotels or chains. The problem with doing so automatically prejudices someone in terms of what the forum is "supposed to" be.

That is why I like the brand-agnostic approach.

I also like the approach by Kettering Northants QC ^, which could serve this forum quite well with a bit of editing.
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Old Mar 11, 2012, 10:17 am
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removed (after "trying" approximately 5 completely different statements)

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Old Mar 11, 2012, 10:21 am
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Removed to mirror Kagehitokiri's removal

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Old Mar 13, 2012, 7:15 am
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Originally Posted by jspira
I am vehemently opposed to including examples in the form of names of hotels or chains. The problem with doing so automatically prejudices someone in terms of what the forum is "supposed to" be.

That is why I like the brand-agnostic approach.

I also like the approach by Kettering Northants QC ^, which could serve this forum quite well with a bit of editing.
I like the current description, the wording "such as" is sufficient as it does not exclude any other hotel or resort.

In the other example, the wording "VERY best" and "genuine contender for the top 100 in the world" is a bit exaggerated.
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Old Mar 13, 2012, 9:02 am
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Kettering Northants QC said "rough idea"
bottom line it includes description, while the others dont really
description (his has no examples) could be combined with examples

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Old Mar 13, 2012, 12:27 pm
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I'm with the small group that would prefer not to see specific brands 'promoted'. Even some of the brands that are currently listed have less than luxiourious outposts - the Excelsior, Hong Kong?

I have no vested interest in promoting one brand over another.
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Old Mar 13, 2012, 12:41 pm
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excelsior - unbranded owned/managed
grand lapa - unbranded managed
interesting MO macau residences are owned by a "sibling" company

quail lodge - unbranded owned/managed by pen's parent, hotel not operating

bvlgari - managed by RC

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RC montreal is branded but managed by owner

"the ritz carlton chicago a four seasons hotel" = dual branded, managed by FS
like setai new york, which is managed by capella

trump also varies re management and ownership, not sure which is which

FS site lists regent singapore
RC site lists "partner hotels" RC montreal, ritz LON, ritz MAD, cosmopolitan LAS

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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post18147327
- examples - yes / no ??

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Originally Posted by Ericka
Discussion regarding the very best hotels in a given location. These may include, but are not limited to, Four Seasons, Amanresorts, Peninsula, Mandarin Oriental, and Dorchester, as well as independently-owned hotels
Originally Posted by luxury
Discussion regarding the very best luxury properties around the world
x actual description - Kettering Northants QC has proposed one, but at least one more proposal might be needed to vote between the two

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Old Mar 13, 2012, 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
excelsior is owned and not branded
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RC manages bvlgari
It features prominently on their website and in the introduction to the hotel (I haven't scoured every page) it makes no mention of it being a 4 star hotel.

http://www.mandarinoriental.com/excelsior/

Names can be confusing Isn't the Ritz Carlton Chicago a Four Seasons Hotel?
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Old Mar 15, 2012, 11:23 pm
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I don't post here often but I find the information provided here invaluable. It seems to me that the regular contributors to this forum already do an excellent job determining what defines a luxury hotel. One issue of concern to me is the geographical approach. I am not sure it is wise to look for the "best" properties in a given market and automatically categorize them as luxury because some places don't have any hotels that would qualify.
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Old Mar 18, 2012, 5:01 pm
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Greetings from the Mandarin Oriental Barcelona!! Sorry for the delay in setting up the poll. I will try to get this done in time for the end of the month.
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Old Mar 19, 2012, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by luxury
Greetings from the Mandarin Oriental Barcelona!! Sorry for the delay in setting up the poll. I will try to get this done in time for the end of the month.
On that basis i'll try and reword my original rough idea..

Interested in the very best luxury hotels around the world? Small inns, converted palaces, plush large city hotels or modern beach resorts - if they're genuine contenders for the top 100 in the world then discuss them here
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