Should We Consider a Rewrite of the Luxury Forum Description?
Nov 11, 2011, 3:36 pm
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Rough idea
"A forum to discuss and debate the very top rung of luxury hotels around the world - be they small inns, converted palaces, plush large city hotels or modern beach resorts - if they're the VERY best and a genuine contender for the top 100 in the world then discuss them here"
This seems to get around the complications re names discussed -virtually every chain has it's duff outposts.
I also think whatever is decided upon the arguments will go on whether certain hotels should or should not be discussed
Nov 13, 2011, 3:08 pm
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Certainly expanding the list of chains and mentioning boutiques would be good. Shorter is better; "four seasons" is clear enough and doesn't need "hotels and resorts" at the end.
Some Ritz Carltons probably shouldn't qualify, either...
Some Ritz Carltons probably shouldn't qualify, either...
Nov 13, 2011, 3:10 pm
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You'll be saddened to learn that it is now Forbes Five Star, not Mobil...
Nov 14, 2011, 5:40 am
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Of course there are stinkers in each hotel group....FS and Aman each have them. But I wouldn't not list the whole group because of one or two bad properties. The list is just meant to give people an idea of what we are talking about so they don't wander in here talking about their recent Marriott stay.
Luxury is subjective.
Luxury is subjective.
Nov 14, 2011, 9:57 am
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And that, at the end of the day, is why it will be so difficult to universally describe what a 'Luxury Hotel' forum should and should not include... Everybody has their opinion.
Fairmont?
Luxury definition: "Hotels that are reviewed or that advertise in Virtuoso and / or Departures Magazine."
Fairmont?
Luxury definition: "Hotels that are reviewed or that advertise in Virtuoso and / or Departures Magazine."
Nov 14, 2011, 1:53 pm
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Re the Fairmont point, I think the Savoy in London illustrates that well - whilst some may feel that the majority of Fairmont hotels are not luxurious by this forums standards, the Savoy perhaps does.
Nov 14, 2011, 2:12 pm
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Fairmont San Jose was very nice. Nice suite. Great service at every employee interaction. Wonderful room service (breakfast).
Was it Luxury of world class standards (The 'Ericka rule'
)? Probably not.I'll let you know soon about Fairmont Wash DC and Seattle locations...
Nov 14, 2011, 2:48 pm
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We stayed at The Fairmont Abu Dhabi recently and it was superb,definitely a luxury hotel.
Ericka, the above description is good in my opinion.
Ericka, the above description is good in my opinion.
Nov 14, 2011, 6:36 pm
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You are absolutely correct! I (think) we are just trying to come up with a set of example properties because without them, there is the fear outside users will not understand the level of luxury we're talking about.
Is this what you were thinking, speedbird001?
Discussion regarding the very best luxury hotels in locations around the world.
Do all feel free to write some new ideas or edit ones that are already suggested. ^
Is this what you were thinking, speedbird001?
Discussion regarding the very best luxury hotels in locations around the world.
Do all feel free to write some new ideas or edit ones that are already suggested. ^
Nov 14, 2011, 6:47 pm
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Of course there are stinkers in each hotel group....FS and Aman each have them. But I wouldn't not list the whole group because of one or two bad properties. The list is just meant to give people an idea of what we are talking about so they don't wander in here talking about their recent Marriott stay.
Luxury is subjective.
Luxury is subjective.
Nov 14, 2011, 8:04 pm
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I would only add that Dorchester should possibly read Dorchester Collection, as it refers to the entire hotel group.
Nov 14, 2011, 8:15 pm
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I think the description definitely should include Amanresorts.
Along with Four Seasons, I would like to see Peninsula and/or Mandarin Oriental in the description, as these hotel groups are true paradigms for luxury hospitality.
I would possibly suggest the removal of Ritz-Carlton. While there are some very good properties, quite a few others are decidedly not high end.
I agree that the word chains is too limiting.
Along with Four Seasons, I would like to see Peninsula and/or Mandarin Oriental in the description, as these hotel groups are true paradigms for luxury hospitality.
I would possibly suggest the removal of Ritz-Carlton. While there are some very good properties, quite a few others are decidedly not high end.
I agree that the word chains is too limiting.
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Nov 14, 2011, 8:19 pm
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So, an alternative might be:
Discussion of the best hotels throughout the world, including Four Seasons, Aman, Peninsula, Mandarin Oriental, Ritz Carlton, and other exceptional hotels.