Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
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DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
May 18, 2011, 2:49 pm
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What do you think ? I will fly from Zurich-Frankfurt LH 1183 leaving at 07:50am and landing at Frankfurt Airport at 08:55am, I dont know where will be the plane or in gate or out ( like you have to take a bus, etc ). Then, I have other flight to LAX that these LH456 leaving at 09:55am, gate closing at 09:20am.
So, I called LH and I say that why LH website sell a tickets with a minimal conecting time like 25min, for LH say that I have 1hour conecting and for them is ok but if the plane landing not a gate I have to take a bus transfer, to schengen and then Pass Contro plus all security checks before arriving at the gate.
So, I called LH and I say that why LH website sell a tickets with a minimal conecting time like 25min, for LH say that I have 1hour conecting and for them is ok but if the plane landing not a gate I have to take a bus transfer, to schengen and then Pass Contro plus all security checks before arriving at the gate.
May 18, 2011, 3:05 pm
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Hi everyone,
we have just been booked onto the following flights by our cruiseline and after reading bits of this thread I am a little nervous about our connecting flight - I'm worried we won't know where we are going, and that the time we have is too limited.
We are flying from Manchester LH949 (operated by BMI) into Frankfurt with an expected arrival time of 09.55.
Our next flight LH232 into Rome leaves at 10.45 which only leaves us with 50 minutes.
Is this enough time or should I see about changing the booking?
What about our checked through luggage - again is this enough time to make it to our next flight. As we are cruising, its not as if we can pick the luggage up the next day if there is a problem.
Thanks in advance
we have just been booked onto the following flights by our cruiseline and after reading bits of this thread I am a little nervous about our connecting flight - I'm worried we won't know where we are going, and that the time we have is too limited.
We are flying from Manchester LH949 (operated by BMI) into Frankfurt with an expected arrival time of 09.55.
Our next flight LH232 into Rome leaves at 10.45 which only leaves us with 50 minutes.
Is this enough time or should I see about changing the booking?
What about our checked through luggage - again is this enough time to make it to our next flight. As we are cruising, its not as if we can pick the luggage up the next day if there is a problem.
Thanks in advance
This is a legal connection and should you miss your connecting flight LH will put you on the next available flight. By what time do you have to be in Rome? Depending on the latest time you must be in Rome, I might try and book an alternative fight. Sometimes FRA sends a bus to take connecting passengers directly to their flight and I have certainly seen this happen to flights from MAN (and the flight wasn't even late), but there's no guarantee this will happen.
May 19, 2011, 5:17 am
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Your flight from MAN will usually park at a remote apron position and you will be bused to international arrivals B. You'll have to go up to passport control, through security and walk to your departure gate almost certainly through the tunnel.
This is a legal connection and should you miss your connecting flight LH will put you on the next available flight. By what time do you have to be in Rome? Depending on the latest time you must be in Rome, I might try and book an alternative fight. Sometimes FRA sends a bus to take connecting passengers directly to their flight and I have certainly seen this happen to flights from MAN (and the flight wasn't even late), but there's no guarantee this will happen.
This is a legal connection and should you miss your connecting flight LH will put you on the next available flight. By what time do you have to be in Rome? Depending on the latest time you must be in Rome, I might try and book an alternative fight. Sometimes FRA sends a bus to take connecting passengers directly to their flight and I have certainly seen this happen to flights from MAN (and the flight wasn't even late), but there's no guarantee this will happen.
May 19, 2011, 5:20 am
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Of course, if Fraport could land UK pax in a suitable area, we wouldn't need to go through security again.
May 19, 2011, 5:25 am
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The only problem with a 1hr transfer at FRA (and I do BHX-FRA-TXL/VIE/PRG/MAD quite often) is the wretched security that's what often takes the time. However, I've not missed and hours connection at FRA yet, although I have cut it fine once or twice.
Of course, if Fraport could land UK pax in a suitable area, we wouldn't need to go through security again.
Of course, if Fraport could land UK pax in a suitable area, we wouldn't need to go through security again.
or is it not the queue thats the problems, its just the time to get through security?
May 19, 2011, 10:13 am
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If they arrange a direct transfer UK to non-Schengen connections enjoy the best of both worlds: no security check and no passport control. ^
Thats good to know although our connection is 50 minutes and not 1 hour. If it is looking tight, and there is a queue at security, is there anyone you can speak to and possibly queue jump or is it not the queue thats the problems, its just the time to get through security?
or is it not the queue thats the problems, its just the time to get through security?
May 20, 2011, 5:17 am
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I don't think UK public opinion would allow us to join Schengen, I get the feeling there's a few Schengen countries wishing they hadn't joined now.
We used to have the direct connection to non-Schengen at FRA haven't done one of those for a while. Next one is probably late September.
May 20, 2011, 5:25 am
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Thats good to know although our connection is 50 minutes and not 1 hour. If it is looking tight, and there is a queue at security, is there anyone you can speak to and possibly queue jump or is it not the queue thats the problems, its just the time to get through security?
or is it not the queue thats the problems, its just the time to get through security?Whilst sometimes going through the main B security can be quicker, there's some rightones there who can take an age to scan your bag. Also the economy queue can be very long at some times of the day. So go through the small transfer security, although be warned, they really do have the WMDT turned up to "fry" there.
With 50 minutes, it will be a hustle, just get yourself to the next gate, don't stop. You can have a rest stop, fag break, hot/cold drink when you get there if you have time.
May 20, 2011, 6:30 am
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May 21, 2011, 6:37 pm
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May 21, 2011, 7:04 pm
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The thing to do is not take a risk and to turn right into the small transfer security. You can always ask people in the queue if you can go ahead of them, some kind souls did this for me on my last very short connect to Prague.
Whilst sometimes going through the main B security can be quicker, there's some rightones there who can take an age to scan your bag. Also the economy queue can be very long at some times of the day. So go through the small transfer security, although be warned, they really do have the WMDT turned up to "fry" there.
Whilst sometimes going through the main B security can be quicker, there's some rightones there who can take an age to scan your bag. Also the economy queue can be very long at some times of the day. So go through the small transfer security, although be warned, they really do have the WMDT turned up to "fry" there.
My flight from MAN left 60 mins late due to the late arrival of the incoming flight and a missed refuelling slot in MAN. (It was the return leg of the daily LH-operated morning rotation between FRA and MAN.) Before arrival there was a long announcement of destinations and new flight numbers for passengers who missed their connection, including JED via CAI on MS, some US destinations but mostly European destinations. Many pax to European destinations wouldn't get there until mid to late evening. As the 737-500 taxied I thought we might park at a lower C gate as delayed flights ex-UK sometimes do. It would then be a relatively painless walk to C14 for my connecting flight. But the plane eventually parked at V95, an apron stand not far from the link between T1 and T2.
A driver at the bottom of the steps with a board with my name ushered me into a Mercedes van. Although he didn't have any other name on the board he was obviously waiting for someone else. Eventually a couple joined me in the van and we drove off. We drove past D-AIME "Johannesburg" unfortunately and ended up at the bowels of FRA, aka international bus arrivals B. Inside there was an escort waiting for the couple who turned out to be travelling to FLR. (According to LH's arrival and departure info our flight arrived 51 mins late at 12:26 and the FLR flight departed at 12:38 from B12, a Schengen bus gate. I wonder if the couple made the flight via some special fast track route.) No escort for me but I didn't mind. I knew my way around so went up the escalator. At the top I could have turned left to walk to C with security check somewhere on the way or turned right to go to B non-Schengen and the FCL B. I turned right which turned out to be a mistake.
There was a lane for Business and First pax on the right but around the corner (not visible at first) both lanes seemed to merge into one. Two check points were open with up to 10 pax waiting for each. A couple in front of me and myself were directed to the right through some doors to another section, probably a fast track? No way!
We seem to have been singled out for a more thorough security check. The couple in front of me had a rollaboard each which they practically unpacked plus enough loose stuff to fill 5 more trays. The trays, the rollaboards plus their contents were put through X-ray at least twice each. I had no choice but to wait. When it was my turn they wanted to check the contents of one of my bags. I don't remember this ever happened to me in FRA and I shouldn't have had to go through additional security in the first place since I arrived from another EU country.
There were at least twice as many (security?) personnel hanging around than passengers (3 of us) and not many signs in the area. One of the few signs read "First Class Lounge" pointing down the stairs. I went down and emerged by the escalator/elevator up to the FCL B. I had just 10 mins in the FCL before being driven to my flight. I told the limo driver my experience and she commented they arranged a direct ramp transfer for a connection under 45 mins. Since I had a little over one hour I had to spend most of it being driven around and going through security which should not have been necessary.
A more useful HON/First Class service than limo rides at FRA would be to facilitate transfer of passengers who do not require additional security to do so. Once you arrive at international bus arrivals B you are doomed as they cannot tell you from pax arriving from more dodgy origins.
May 23, 2011, 12:05 pm
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I am traveling with my family who don't fly a lot so I would appreciate any directions and advice on how to navigate the following tight transfer so that I can keep them calm by doing it right the first time. Arriving on AMS - FRA with a 45 minute connection to FRA - FCO, all flights on LH and booked with LH. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
As a separate question, we will be checking luggage; any history on whether the bags and ourselves will make the connection if our inbound flight is running 10 to 15 minutes late?
As a separate question, we will be checking luggage; any history on whether the bags and ourselves will make the connection if our inbound flight is running 10 to 15 minutes late?
May 23, 2011, 2:44 pm
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I always will walk to the FCT. It is the simple solution to the ever changing mess in FRA and good for your health.
I think LH could easily improve the service for connecting F-Pax and HON.
May 23, 2011, 9:01 pm
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If I am flying CDG-FRA-ACC with a lengthy layover in FRA and my bags are checked all the way through to ACC, can I get over to the FCT, or just use to FCL? Thanks.