Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Mar 8, 2011, 2:23 pm
#526
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I wondered if the OP booked this itinerary with AC. There was another query from someone who used AC miles to book Schengen to non-Schengen flights via FRA with 45 mins connecting time because AC was using an outdated list of MCT.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/15953464-post27.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/15953464-post27.html
Mar 9, 2011, 5:02 am
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Beginners' guide to connecting at FRA [FRA connection thread]
whenever I see this title coming up again I have one short answer
AVOID - choose MUC instead...
whenever I see this title coming up again I have one short answer
AVOID - choose MUC instead...
Mar 9, 2011, 7:17 am
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Hi All,
Thanks for your feedback. I did book this ticket thru LH. I wouldn't mind missing the connection, so I could use the FCT again
- I will read about the liquor in the thread. My meetings don't start until the 19th. Also, this is one ticket. Not two separate PNR's
Cheers, D
Thanks for your feedback. I did book this ticket thru LH. I wouldn't mind missing the connection, so I could use the FCT again
- I will read about the liquor in the thread. My meetings don't start until the 19th. Also, this is one ticket. Not two separate PNR'sCheers, D
Mar 9, 2011, 1:33 pm
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Mar 9, 2011, 2:04 pm
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Mar 9, 2011, 2:34 pm
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SEA-FRA-BCN--FCL Strategy?
It's been a lot fun reviewing this thread and checking gate status for LH 491/1128 over the last few weeks. We finally leave this Saturday and have a 4.5 hour layover in lovely FRA. Even after all the reading (and plenty of travel experience), I'm still befuddled.
It appears likely we will arrive at B (bus), though A gate or B gate arrivals are possible.
It appears likely we will depart from A gate, though B gate or even C gate departures are possible.
Based on the probabilities, I went ahead and booked me and the kid a couple spa appointments in FCL B leaving a couple hours between the end of the appointments and our departure from FRA.
Did I give myself headaches if we end up arriving A (non-Schengen) and departing A (Schengen) or arriving B (non-Schengen) and departing A or C (Schengen)?
How simple or difficult is the transit between piers with carry on that doesn't roll?
Is it correct that we are ineligible for fancy transport from FCL B to any possible departure location since our departure is Schengen?
(I have taken an FCT stop out of the equation because our return will give us a couple hours in the FCT, with a BIO-FRA evening flight, overnight at the Sheraton and FRA-SEA the following morning.)
Many thx for your indulgence and illumination.
--mcz
It appears likely we will arrive at B (bus), though A gate or B gate arrivals are possible.
It appears likely we will depart from A gate, though B gate or even C gate departures are possible.
Based on the probabilities, I went ahead and booked me and the kid a couple spa appointments in FCL B leaving a couple hours between the end of the appointments and our departure from FRA.
Did I give myself headaches if we end up arriving A (non-Schengen) and departing A (Schengen) or arriving B (non-Schengen) and departing A or C (Schengen)?
How simple or difficult is the transit between piers with carry on that doesn't roll?
Is it correct that we are ineligible for fancy transport from FCL B to any possible departure location since our departure is Schengen?
(I have taken an FCT stop out of the equation because our return will give us a couple hours in the FCT, with a BIO-FRA evening flight, overnight at the Sheraton and FRA-SEA the following morning.)
Many thx for your indulgence and illumination.
--mcz
Mar 10, 2011, 1:00 am
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I posted a question about this before. I'm flying Nuremberg to Chicago via Frankfurt (2h35m layover) in three days. I've been checking the Lufthansa flight stats since I purchased my ticket, and my flight from Nuremberg always arrives in Frankfurt at: "Terminal 1A, Bus". The flight to Chicago departs from gate C16 (I know it can change).
What I am confused about is where I arrive after I'm bussed to the terminal. Looking at this map
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/p...dia_697070.pdf
it says arrivals are level 1, but that's baggage claim, and I'd have to leave the non-public area. Is there actually a place where all the concourses connect, but not in the public area? Because I also found a photo album on Flickr about connecting in Frankfurt, and it seemed the poster never left the secured area. The connection looked very straightforward, but the map makes it look so confusing. I know how to read signs and I can handle long walks. I just want to know where they'll drop me off, and if it's in the public area. I don't intend to figure out my precise route in the airport from arrival to departure, but I like to have some idea of how to get around certain airports.
Any help?
What I am confused about is where I arrive after I'm bussed to the terminal. Looking at this map
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/p...dia_697070.pdf
it says arrivals are level 1, but that's baggage claim, and I'd have to leave the non-public area. Is there actually a place where all the concourses connect, but not in the public area? Because I also found a photo album on Flickr about connecting in Frankfurt, and it seemed the poster never left the secured area. The connection looked very straightforward, but the map makes it look so confusing. I know how to read signs and I can handle long walks. I just want to know where they'll drop me off, and if it's in the public area. I don't intend to figure out my precise route in the airport from arrival to departure, but I like to have some idea of how to get around certain airports.
Any help?
You'll be dropped in secure area, or rather by a door which leads into secure area of the terminal. Since you are arriving from Schengen there shouldn't be any need for further security screening. It should be possible to connect in FRA without leaving secure area, but if your flight leaves from a C gate you may have to go through security again because of the layout of the terminal. You will go through passport control at some point.
Unfortunately I haven't found a good map of FRA showing where bus gates are and I only have limited experience of connecting from a Schengen bus gate.
As always if you follow the signs you will be fine.
Mar 10, 2011, 1:39 am
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It's been a lot fun reviewing this thread and checking gate status for LH 491/1128 over the last few weeks. We finally leave this Saturday and have a 4.5 hour layover in lovely FRA. Even after all the reading (and plenty of travel experience), I'm still befuddled.
It appears likely we will arrive at B (bus), though A gate or B gate arrivals are possible.
It appears likely we will depart from A gate, though B gate or even C gate departures are possible.
Based on the probabilities, I went ahead and booked me and the kid a couple spa appointments in FCL B leaving a couple hours between the end of the appointments and our departure from FRA.
Did I give myself headaches if we end up arriving A (non-Schengen) and departing A (Schengen) or arriving B (non-Schengen) and departing A or C (Schengen)?
How simple or difficult is the transit between piers with carry on that doesn't roll?
Is it correct that we are ineligible for fancy transport from FCL B to any possible departure location since our departure is Schengen?
(I have taken an FCT stop out of the equation because our return will give us a couple hours in the FCT, with a BIO-FRA evening flight, overnight at the Sheraton and FRA-SEA the following morning.)
Many thx for your indulgence and illumination.
--mcz
It appears likely we will arrive at B (bus), though A gate or B gate arrivals are possible.
It appears likely we will depart from A gate, though B gate or even C gate departures are possible.
Based on the probabilities, I went ahead and booked me and the kid a couple spa appointments in FCL B leaving a couple hours between the end of the appointments and our departure from FRA.
Did I give myself headaches if we end up arriving A (non-Schengen) and departing A (Schengen) or arriving B (non-Schengen) and departing A or C (Schengen)?
How simple or difficult is the transit between piers with carry on that doesn't roll?
Is it correct that we are ineligible for fancy transport from FCL B to any possible departure location since our departure is Schengen?
(I have taken an FCT stop out of the equation because our return will give us a couple hours in the FCT, with a BIO-FRA evening flight, overnight at the Sheraton and FRA-SEA the following morning.)
Many thx for your indulgence and illumination.
--mcz
You are correct. There's no limo transfer from the B FCL to a Schengen flight. From the B FCL you'll have to go through immigration (into Schengen) and possibly another security screening to your departure gate for BCN. Either take the SkyLine train to A1-42 or walk through the tunnel of horror!
The only Schengen C gate AFAIK is C1.
Mar 10, 2011, 4:47 am
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Whether you arrive at a B bus gate, A gate or B gate, follow the signs as if you are connecting from B22 to get to the B FCL. From A this will be via the SkyLine train. From B go through security and down one level. From the B bus gate, up the escalator, go through security and down one level.
You are correct. There's no limo transfer from the B FCL to a Schengen flight. From the B FCL you'll have to go through immigration (into Schengen) and possibly another security screening to your departure gate for BCN. Either take the SkyLine train to A1-42 or walk through the tunnel of horror!
The only Schengen C gate AFAIK is C1.
You are correct. There's no limo transfer from the B FCL to a Schengen flight. From the B FCL you'll have to go through immigration (into Schengen) and possibly another security screening to your departure gate for BCN. Either take the SkyLine train to A1-42 or walk through the tunnel of horror!
The only Schengen C gate AFAIK is C1.
Apr 4, 2011, 7:10 pm
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One hour change in FRA?
Have a flight from Istanbul to Frankfurt, and then on to JFK. Sehcduled for only one hour between arrival in FRA & departure. Same terminal. Is this going to work? Will my luggage arrive with me?
My seats on the FRA - JFK route are at the back of Biz Class, Row 24, of a 747. Am I better off changing to the seats in front of the rear door in the Biz class, Row 14, or Row 4?
My seats on the FRA - JFK route are at the back of Biz Class, Row 24, of a 747. Am I better off changing to the seats in front of the rear door in the Biz class, Row 14, or Row 4?
Apr 4, 2011, 7:23 pm
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I think that you are cutting it too tight for a flight to USA. Depending on flight numbers, it might even be illegal MCT. I hope it is at least on one ticket/pnr. I, personally, would not risk such a connection in FRA.
I prefer front seats, but it depends on personal preferences.
I prefer front seats, but it depends on personal preferences.
Apr 4, 2011, 7:32 pm
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Thanks for the reply. Seems tight to me. I did not book this flight - a cruise line made the booking. It is my flight Home from the cruise. Guess they don't care if I make it or not.
Apr 4, 2011, 7:36 pm
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In that case it is on one ticket and you are protected. There are heaps of flights between FRA and JFK, so LH will take care of you should there be delay. When you arrive in FRA, go as quickly as possible for your JFK flight. 60 mins is doable, but tight.
Apr 4, 2011, 9:39 pm
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Zrh-frankfurt-lax
Hi everyone,
I will fly on paid ticket from Zurich-Frankfurt at 07:50am, landing at Frankfurt at 8:55am, then my coneccting flight Frankfurt-Los Angeles leaving at 09:55, Do you think that I will make it ? becuse I know the boarding time for Frankfurt-Los Angeles is at 09:15.
I will fly on paid ticket from Zurich-Frankfurt at 07:50am, landing at Frankfurt at 8:55am, then my coneccting flight Frankfurt-Los Angeles leaving at 09:55, Do you think that I will make it ? becuse I know the boarding time for Frankfurt-Los Angeles is at 09:15.
Apr 4, 2011, 11:39 pm
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You should be fine. It is FRAport, but that is still very doable. And it is not winter season, so the weather is not as much of a factor to be worried about.