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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Nov 17, 2016, 5:48 am
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Originally Posted by Pat Plus
Does anybody know if it's possible to enter Terminal 2 with a Star Alliance boarding pass (for the purpose of seeing a friend - I have ample layover time.)

I've had zero issues at Frankfurt airport going to A, B, C, or Z without the proper boarding pass - at worst I got a surprised look and a reminder that I would need to time to go back and/or re-clear security. But I've never tried switching terminals altogether.
I've never done it this way around but I did go through security in T1 with an Aer Lingus boarding card for T2 a few years ago without any problems. I just told the lady manning security that I wanted to try out the "airside skyline" and she let me through. I can't answer your question about going straight from Z but going through the "wrong" terminal security is not a problem in my experience.
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Old Nov 17, 2016, 5:57 am
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Originally Posted by Pat Plus
Come to think of it I'll be arriving from the US and should land at Z. Is there any chance I can take the train to D directly and possibly skip security?
AFAIK the Skyline train is 'unclean' or in Schengen/public area. You may be able to remain in non-Schengen but I don't think you can stay behind security. I have no experience of arriving in or departing from T2 but I believe security is at the gate and you cannot avoid re-clearing security when you return to T1.
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Old Nov 20, 2016, 5:45 am
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Hello, a newbie here !
I have an upcoming routing as IST-FRA-IAD and EWR-FRA-IST, all legs on LH. I have read thru some posts on this thread how to connect in FRA, but reading 251 pages is impossible, so apologies if this had been asked before. Plus, I am flying first time on LH and I did not know if I should have posted here on NEWBIE ask your lufthansa questions thread. So here it goes:

All my flights are on a single ticket. Economy on all legs. I have no schengen visa. My questions are:

1) I guess most of IST-FRA or FRA-IST flights are to/from B gates. And US flights are mostly from Z gates. What is the connection procedure?

2) I am planning to get upgrades to J on the legs between FRA and IST (outbound and inbound). To which lounges can I get access to? Can I get a lounge access on my IST-FRA-IAD outbound flight with my IST-FRA J class and FRA-IAD economy?

Thanks in advance.
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Old Nov 20, 2016, 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by IST_777
Hello, a newbie here !
I have an upcoming routing as IST-FRA-IAD and EWR-FRA-IST, all legs on LH. I have read thru some posts on this thread how to connect in FRA, but reading 251 pages is impossible, so apologies if this had been asked before. Plus, I am flying first time on LH and I did not know if I should have posted here on NEWBIE ask your lufthansa questions thread. So here it goes:

All my flights are on a single ticket. Economy on all legs. I have no schengen visa. My questions are:

1) I guess most of IST-FRA or FRA-IST flights are to/from B gates. And US flights are mostly from Z gates. What is the connection procedure?

2) I am planning to get upgrades to J on the legs between FRA and IST (outbound and inbound). To which lounges can I get access to? Can I get a lounge access on my IST-FRA-IAD outbound flight with my IST-FRA J class and FRA-IAD economy?

Thanks in advance.
Welcome to FlyerTalk and the LH forum, IST_777!

You are correct. Flights from IST usually arrive at B gates and most flights to the US depart from Z gates. Following the signs to your departure gate should take you to the Skyline train platform, where you board the train going to A/Z (one stop). After getting off the train you go through transfer security and go one floor down to Z departures. There will be document check at the gate and possibly random (additional) security check.

It's not really worth upgrading IST-FRA and FRA-IST to Business as you will get exactly the same seats as in Economy. The only difference will a better meal and an empty seat next to you. Since LH lounges are departure lounges flying IST-FRA in Business and connecting to IAD in Economy will only give you lounge access in IST but not in FRA. On the way back you will have lounge access in FRA but not in EWR.

If possible you should try and upgrade at least one of the longhaul segments (FRA-IAD or EWR-FRA) into Premium Economy. You will get more space/better seats and will be able to purchase lounge access before departure.
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Old Nov 20, 2016, 3:21 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Since LH lounges are departure lounges flying IST-FRA in Business and connecting to IAD in Economy will only give you lounge access in IST but not in FRA.
Which is nothing to sneeze at - the IST lounge is significantly nicer than the lounges at FRA.
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Old Nov 20, 2016, 3:50 pm
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Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
Which is nothing to sneeze at - the IST lounge is significantly nicer than the lounges at FRA.
I agree with you about the IST lounge but still don't believe it's worth upgrading the IST-FRA segment for lounge access whatever upgrade instrument the OP will be using.
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Old Nov 21, 2016, 10:30 am
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Thank you PVDtoDEL and NewbieRunner !

I guess I will try my chance to get an upgrade to Premium Economy then to buy a lounge access.

I had no idea about how good LH lounges are in FRA but I know very well that TK lounge in IST rocks.
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Old Nov 22, 2016, 3:57 am
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Originally Posted by IST_777
I guess I will try my chance to get an upgrade to Premium Economy then to buy a lounge access.

I had no idea about how good LH lounges are in FRA but I know very well that TK lounge in IST rocks.
You will be disappointed by FRA Business Lounges if you expect something similar to the TK lounge in IST. As I said it's not worth upgrading shorthaul segments to access LH business lounges.
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Old Nov 28, 2016, 9:49 am
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Hello,
First time poster here...I'm sure my issue has been answered many times but after searching through pages for 10 min I figured I'd just throw it out there.

We arrive FRA @ 5:35am on LH flight from BOS. We need to book a flight to HAM (most likely also LH) that same morning. It has to be a new ticket as we originally thought we'd drive and have already booked BOS to FRA. There are flights @ 7am & 8am. Would 7am flight be enough time considering we'll probably have to collect our luggage and recheck (unless we can convince LH folks in BOS to check through to HAM on our 2nd ticket). Should we book the 7am and hope that LH accommodates us on the later flight should we miss the connection? (given that it will be a different ticket will they?) Thanks so much!
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Old Nov 29, 2016, 3:15 am
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Checking bags through should not be too much of a problem. Show both reservations at checkin. (Although I read somewhere that some airlines do not check bags through anymore if on separate tickets, but I can't recall having read about LH in this context.)
If arrival from BOS is on time and with bags checked to HAM, the 7 AM flight to HAM would be OK.
However you have no protection for the flight to HAM as you are on 2 tickets.
If you miss FRA-HAM, you will have to buy a new ticket. (Return HAM-FRA normally lost too.)

Considering all this, personally I would book a later flight to HAM.
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Old Nov 29, 2016, 4:45 am
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Welcome to FlyerTalk and the LH forum, Scooper22151!

I entirely agree with what PetzLUX said in answer to your questions.
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Old Nov 29, 2016, 4:56 am
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LH BOS will only check thru if the FRA-HAM is booked in Eco Classic/flex or if you can demonstrate that you paid for the extra bag in advance (costs 15€/pc, at checkin its costs 30!)
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Old Dec 14, 2016, 9:55 am
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I am connecting at FRA from BCN on LH to UA to IAH. It is a 65 minute connection and I will be with my wife and young daughter. We have been through FRA before and I was not too worried about the connection as long as the flight is on time. I have noticed that a lot of the BCN flights are coming into the ASW bus gates.

How tight is the connection to the Z gates going to be if we come into a bus gate?
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Originally Posted by stampchez
I am connecting at FRA from BCN on LH to UA to IAH. It is a 65 minute connection and I will be with my wife and young daughter. We have been through FRA before and I was not too worried about the connection as long as the flight is on time. I have noticed that a lot of the BCN flights are coming into the ASW bus gates.

How tight is the connection to the Z gates going to be if we come into a bus gate?
All bus gates in A are close to the central area of the concourse. When you enter A concourse follow the signs for Z gates which should take you through exit passport control to Z concourse which is immediately above A concourse. There will be document check by the gate and possible random security check. 65 mins is a little tight but should be ok if the flight from BCN is on time. Just make sure you go to the departure gate area as quickly as possible.
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Old Dec 20, 2016, 3:43 am
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We will be travelling from Hamburg via Frankfurt to Washington. HAM - FRA will be on Lufthansa and will arrive at terminal 1A (often at the far end…Gate 36 or higher), FRA - IAD will be with United at Terminal 1Z. (mostly at Gate Z22/Z23)

We are on one ticket booked through United and have 1:15 hour for the connection on a Saturday morning!

Can someone tell me how the connection in FRA is? Will we have enough time? Do we have to clear security again or just passport control?
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