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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Apr 7, 2010, 5:27 pm
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Originally Posted by alexxelahe
Hi, I might be a little paranoid here but I am flying AMS-FRA-JFK(in LH J) with little less than 1.5 hrs connection time in FRA. I read somewhere there are different areas for Schengen and non-Schengen flights. Assuming AMS-FRA flight lands on time, would there be enought time go through security and make the connecting flight, maybe even some lounge time? Thanks.
You will be fine and have time in the lounge unless you have massing delays.
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That's sufficient. I frequently fly through FRA on non-Schengen to Schengen flights (HKG-FRA-CPH/ARN) and connections are usually around 1.5 hrs.

If you have any luggage, it's likely to make it through (I've never lost it once with LH/FRA). LH puts "HOT" tags on your checked luggage to ensure it's among the first off the plane at FRA to make the connection.
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Old Apr 8, 2010, 2:29 am
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Originally Posted by njfan07
First time connecting through FRA and MUC and would appreciate some advice. In late June, I will be taking LH 401, JFK-FRA, arriving at 5:35AM, then taking FRA-MUC, 7:05 AM - 8AM and continuing onto MUC-LWO at 9:35 AM. All LH flights in C class with the last flight on Cityline.
Just curious to know..
There is a direct connection from JFK to MUC (LH411 ) and then MUC - LWO (LH3172).. Departure times from JFK are within 1 hr differnce.. fares i see are also similiar..Any reason to go via FRA to LWO since u wont b spending any time at all in FRA.. also from my exp and wht I read in FT, transitting in munich is a better experience .. and also u won't hv to go thru immigration even once , forget twice as is the case if u go thru FRA..
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Old Apr 12, 2010, 3:11 am
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Originally Posted by abhilife2001
Just curious to know..
There is a direct connection from JFK to MUC (LH411 ) and then MUC - LWO (LH3172).. Departure times from JFK are within 1 hr differnce.. fares i see are also similiar..Any reason to go via FRA to LWO since u wont b spending any time at all in FRA.. also from my exp and wht I read in FT, transitting in munich is a better experience .. and also u won't hv to go thru immigration even once , forget twice as is the case if u go thru FRA..
Probably the OP want to get the additional 1.5k miles...
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Pre-paid phone calling card to call to Canada

My Lufthansa flight from Canada will arrive at FRA (Terminal 1 / Pier or Concourse B). I have to walk to Pier or Concourse A to catch a flight to Venice. Is there a shop along that route where we can buy a pre-paid phone calling card to call to Canada from a phone booth in the airport?
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 10:10 pm
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Would this itinerary allow me enough connection time in Frankfurt? Also would CO protect you onto another *A carrier in J class.

Depart:
10:40 a.m.
Sun., Sep. 5, 2010
Barcelona, Spain (BCN)
Arrive:12:50 p.m.
Sun., Sep. 5, 2010
Frankfurt, Germany (FRA)

Connect time in Frankfurt, Germany (FRA) is 1 hour .
Depart:
1:50 p.m.
Sun., Sep. 5, 2010
Frankfurt, Germany (FRA)
Arrive:
5:30 p.m.
Sun., Sep. 5, 2010
Houston, TX (IAH - Intercontinental)
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 10:26 pm
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Originally Posted by portland67
Would this itinerary allow me enough connection time in Frankfurt? Also would CO protect you onto another *A carrier in J class.

Barcelona, Spain (BCN)
Arrive:12:50 p.m.
Frankfurt, Germany (FRA)

Connect time in Frankfurt, Germany (FRA) is 1 hour .
Depart:
1:50 p.m.
Frankfurt, Germany (FRA)
Arrive:
Houston, TX (IAH - Intercontinental)
If your incoming flight is on-time, you'll make it. You'll need to go through Schengen exit immigration and then a security check.

If you misconnect due to a late arrival from BCN then it's LH's responsibility to get you to your destination, as they are responsible for you're late arrival. If, at BCN, it looks like you'll have a problem you'll want to discuss it with the staff at BCN to see if they can preemptively re-route you.

Even in the event of weather LH is better than the US airlines about re-routing you, but they do try to keep you on a * Alliance carrier.

That said, if I really had to be in Houston first thing in the morning on September 6th, I'd take an earlier flight out of BCN to have a more comfortable connection.
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Old Apr 21, 2010, 3:47 pm
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Originally Posted by andymell
If your incoming flight is on-time, you'll make it. You'll need to go through Schengen exit immigration and then a security check.

If you misconnect due to a late arrival from BCN then it's LH's responsibility to get you to your destination, as they are responsible for you're late arrival. If, at BCN, it looks like you'll have a problem you'll want to discuss it with the staff at BCN to see if they can preemptively re-route you.

Even in the event of weather LH is better than the US airlines about re-routing you, but they do try to keep you on a * Alliance carrier.

That said, if I really had to be in Houston first thing in the morning on September 6th, I'd take an earlier flight out of BCN to have a more comfortable connection.
I'm actually flying LH and then connecting onto Continental but I'm trying to buy the ticket through CO.
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Old Apr 23, 2010, 6:46 pm
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I'll be flying SFO-FRA-CPH-BGO on May 6-7 (LH metal into FRA, SAS metal onto CPH).

Today's arrival and departure are both in the "B" gates; it would be wonderful if the same were true on May 7th. I'll have plenty of time between flights (2h 40m).

I assume I should first get through any passport control and security checkpoints, then get to the proper gate area for my SAS flight.

Once I'm there, my question is this: is there a LH lounge with showers in all three gate areas? I'll be flying biz and hoping to use a Systemwide to upgrade to F.
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Old Apr 24, 2010, 12:50 am
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Originally Posted by DavidO
I'll be flying SFO-FRA-CPH-BGO on May 6-7 (LH metal into FRA, SAS metal onto CPH).

Today's arrival and departure are both in the "B" gates; it would be wonderful if the same were true on May 7th. I'll have plenty of time between flights (2h 40m).
As you have gathered arrival and departure gates of any flight in FRA cannot be predicted. For example LH455 SFO-FRA arrived at gate A65 on Friday, which probably means pax were bussed to B International Arrivals.

I assume I should first get through any passport control and security checkpoints, then get to the proper gate area for my SAS flight.
Your assumption is correct but please see below. Even if your flight arrives at a B gate you no longer have access to B non-Schengen lounges following a recent rule change because you are departing to a Schengen destination.

Once I'm there, my question is this: is there a LH lounge with showers in all three gate areas? I'll be flying biz and hoping to use a Systemwide to upgrade to F.
Your flight to CPH seems to depart from a lower B gate, but there's no lounge in the B Schengen area. The only Schengen lounges are close to gate A26. The Business Lounge for business pax, Senator Lounge for *G and the First Class Lounge if you arrive in First.

However, if what you want most is a shower the best option would be the Welcome Lounge which offers 28 showers and very nice breakfast.
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dash to train station and back?

another connection question with a twist. I have a 2-hour (well, 110 minutes)connection in FRA(inbound from Canada LH495, on to Venice LH4082). I've read all the way through this excellent guide and understand that I will at some point be outside the secured zone. At that point, I would like to dash over to the Fernbahnhof to buy a BahnCard for my minor daughter (have to appear in person to prove she's under 18). I will need this card when we re-enter Germany a month later by train. I have a general idea from internet research where the station is but have not been there.

We have carry-on only, but boarding passes are issued only onsite, not in advance. No status, coach seats.

What do you think are the chances I could do this, and make it back through security to the gate for Venice in enough time?
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Old May 4, 2010, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by Tyrwhitt
another connection question with a twist. I have a 2-hour (well, 110 minutes)connection in FRA(inbound from Canada LH495, on to Venice LH4082). I've read all the way through this excellent guide and understand that I will at some point be outside the secured zone. At that point, I would like to dash over to the Fernbahnhof to buy a BahnCard for my minor daughter (have to appear in person to prove she's under 18). I will need this card when we re-enter Germany a month later by train. I have a general idea from internet research where the station is but have not been there.

We have carry-on only, but boarding passes are issued only onsite, not in advance. No status, coach seats.

What do you think are the chances I could do this, and make it back through security to the gate for Venice in enough time?
Depends where you land and will you be on time or delayed. Also what day of the week you'll be arriving to FRA. If it is weekday morning (Mon and Fri are usually bad), then it is a zoo for security. To go to train station, get the card and back to security, you'll need between 30 and 40 minutes, depending if you arrive at B or C terminal.
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Fortunately, it'll be a Sunday morning, but high tourist season. I'll play it by ear. If we get a good tailwind and the crowds don't look too bad, we'll try it. Thanks for the advice.

ETA: I did some more digging, and it appears there is a train ticket center inside the terminal, here: DB TravelCenter (Reisezentrum) in Terminal 1, B Concourse, Level 0. This should speed things up for us, and I thought someone else might be interested. Can anyone confirm a recent sighting of this booth?

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After spending hours trying to figure out the answer I need help.

PAX arrives from SEA LH491 at 9:15 AM and connects to FLR LH4060 at 11:30 AM in C (paid Z not award travel - not sure if that even makes a difference on LH). What are the lounge options for them such as the landside arrivals? I think Florence flight takes off out of B but hard for me to tell.
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