Plans for new Lufthansa longhaul flights from smaller airports
Jun 10, 2007, 12:55 pm
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Plans for new Lufthansa longhaul flights from smaller airports
One of Germany's larger newspapers (Handelsblatt) reports about plans for new longhaul routes from STR, HAM, DUS and TXL. It's not clear yet what the destinations will be, but I would suggest IAD or ORD in the US and maybe BKK or HKG in Asia.
only in German:
http://www.handelsblatt.com/news/Unt...gstrecken.html
google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools
only in German:
http://www.handelsblatt.com/news/Unt...gstrecken.html
google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools
Jun 10, 2007, 1:00 pm
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"Mit Modellen wie [...] der A340-600 können Nebenstrecken mit geringerem Verkehrsaufkommen gut bedient werden." 
346 for small routes with little traffic??
SmilingBoy.
346 for small routes with little traffic??
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Jun 10, 2007, 1:54 pm
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Perhaps this is a reaction to BA announcing that they want to start ex-Europe non-stop flights to the US with their 757/767 fleet?
Added: BA is talking about starting ALL Business Class flights ex-EU !
Added: BA is talking about starting ALL Business Class flights ex-EU !
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Jun 10, 2007, 2:56 pm
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Good news as far as I am concerned. I wonder, though, if this would mean further cuts in feeder flights like STR-FRA? There are already too many connections on which LH cheats by pointing pax to Stuttgart train station instead of the airport, all with the cutesy footnote that "This city has more than one airport"
. No better way to get me to book other airlines instead.
. No better way to get me to book other airlines instead.
Jun 10, 2007, 3:35 pm
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A346??? Not going to happen. More like A333s (the only size LH has to compete against 757/767s) out of STR, HAM and I guess BBI.
But BKK? They don't even fly to BKK out of MUC, their second biggest HUB. Or is that just because TG is serving BKK-MUC-BKK.
Having flights like announced would be a real advantage because you can go nonstop instead through a HUB like DXB.
On the other hand, I would prefer a second flight out of MUC as a convenient HUB with plenty of connections to airports like HAM, etc. instead of having 10 flights to NYC a day but they leave and arrive all at the same time, meaning their are no real choices but the local airport in Germany.
But BKK? They don't even fly to BKK out of MUC, their second biggest HUB. Or is that just because TG is serving BKK-MUC-BKK.
Having flights like announced would be a real advantage because you can go nonstop instead through a HUB like DXB.
On the other hand, I would prefer a second flight out of MUC as a convenient HUB with plenty of connections to airports like HAM, etc. instead of having 10 flights to NYC a day but they leave and arrive all at the same time, meaning their are no real choices but the local airport in Germany.
Jun 10, 2007, 4:47 pm
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IIRC, didn't LH get some new slots at NRT last year? DUS-NRT might be possible due to the high concentration of Japanese business there...or maybe that's just wishful thinking...
Seriously though, what city pairs are viable options? HAM-NYC is already overserved, but LH might make it work as HAM has got a rather good European network going on.
Seriously though, what city pairs are viable options? HAM-NYC is already overserved, but LH might make it work as HAM has got a rather good European network going on.
Jun 11, 2007, 6:17 am
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Yes, that´s crazy. No direct LH connection to BKK. There is also the OS flight from VIE, with a lot of german connectiong people, coming from MUC.
Jun 11, 2007, 7:21 am
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I think that TG and LH have profit sharing on BKK - Germany routes, just like with UA on the USA routes. LH can fly their planes to higher yielding destinations in India or China. A bit ot:TG is currently adding 4 new employees to the office in Munich which is the forerunner of the 2nd daily flight (initially 3x weekly) they plan to add (same timings as the night flight ex BKK to FRA).
Jun 11, 2007, 10:37 am
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As freight there is plenty of Lh longhoul, daily 
CGN at least has EWR, that's better than nothing and I talked to CO two weeks ago, they'll keep that flight allthough it's one of the two flights from EWR to Europe which don't make a whole lot of money.
Interesting to hear was also, that the WOLF doesn't care about market shares, more about profibility, meaning that we don"t have to fly on LH, he just wants our money = keeping prices up
bad for us, good for the share holders 
Jun 11, 2007, 11:48 am
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Container Class? Sorry, I just had the compulsion...
Anyways, my parents liked the nonstop from CGN and enjoyed CO BF on their very first longhaul
. According to them, the loads were not very high in BF.
Jun 13, 2007, 5:16 pm
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And I would love to get a HAJ-JFK route. Wouldn't that be nice? Or even better: HAJ-SYD.
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Jun 13, 2007, 5:21 pm
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