LH abandons me in FRA
Apr 9, 2006, 9:14 am
#136
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Originally Posted by flysurfer
..clear LAX customs and immigration less than 10 minutes (it was 3 minutes before INSPASS ended).
mistake of travelling into LAX from SYD, I wasted nearly 2 hours in immigration.
NZ now also offers Asian routes.
not SYD.
Anyway, who convicted you this time? And what for? 
Maybe for spreading false rumors that I "like FRA"? 
Maybe for spreading false rumors that I "like FRA"?
Down Under than in the Old World.
Second, I use it in the sense of being 'convinced in a false manner'. Which I
think can still be applied even if it's a bit ancient.
And you do like FRA.
In the sense that you defend it against my adamant and relentless attacks.
Apr 9, 2006, 10:04 am
#137
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Originally Posted by weero
And you do like FRA.
Guess, I'll have to ask Flying Lawyer to issue a gag order.
Apr 9, 2006, 10:27 am
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Originally Posted by flysurfer
.. Guess, I'll have to ask Flying Lawyer to issue a gag order.
the way I see the 'liking'.
Still, I hence take it back and revoke my claims that flysurfer does
like FRA. And I offer my apologies for ever suspecting him to like it.
That's already two of us then
..
Apr 9, 2006, 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by weero
Still, I hence take it back and revoke my claims that flysurfer does like FRA. And I offer my apologies for ever suspecting him to like it. That's already two of us then ..
..
And I'm actually quite sure that there more than two of us. Anyway: You know what's really incomprehensible? The fact that you like LHR!
Apr 10, 2006, 3:08 am
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Originally Posted by flysurfer
..You know what's really incomprehensible? The fact that you like LHR!
And it's merely based on my personal prejudice: I never had to wait for too long
for check-in and security so far. And it's one of the few airports my friend has
yet to miss a check-in deadline with - unlike Luton and Stansted where she
just did it again. My warnings that if she ever misses the return on a UA *A
Oz-EU award, she would have to stay in Europe forever, are in vain as she likes
the Old World. You see how traumatised I am!
After having been to LAX twice recently, I hate FRA a lot less. It's all about
comparison..
Apr 10, 2006, 6:34 am
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Originally Posted by totti
Indeed! So maybe you wanna try to fly one of the EU blacklisted airlines and enjoy flying LH or evn you beloved UA 
I have no concept of how unpleasant it is to ride a blaclisted airline. As about 3/4
of all discomfort imposed upon us comes from measures introduced by authorities,
I have a hard time trusting them to sort out the right airlines for us. Maybe
these carriers simply did not implement enough passenger torture to satisfy
the regulators?
Apr 10, 2006, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by weero
I enjoy UA anyway these days totti.
I have no concept of how unpleasant it is to ride a blaclisted airline. As about 3/4
of all discomfort imposed upon us comes from measures introduced by authorities,
I have a hard time trusting them to sort out the right airlines for us. Maybe
these carriers simply did not implement enough passenger torture to satisfy
the regulators?
I have no concept of how unpleasant it is to ride a blaclisted airline. As about 3/4
of all discomfort imposed upon us comes from measures introduced by authorities,
I have a hard time trusting them to sort out the right airlines for us. Maybe
these carriers simply did not implement enough passenger torture to satisfy
the regulators?
I never had the "pleasure" to use one of the blacklisted airlines myself... I just thought it would may help you to enjoy LH again
Cheers
totti
Apr 10, 2006, 5:02 pm
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Originally Posted by totti
..I never had the "pleasure" to use one of the blacklisted airlines myself...
to ... not because their service is inferior.
There must be an inverse relationship between well being aboard and safety.
Look how cozy KLM feels and then travel Qantas for a change
...
Jul 31, 2006, 7:15 pm
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no end to the struggle - LH position
Back to my good old thread on LH refusing to transport me.
After emailing back and forth, I got a letter from LH offering me some monetary
compensation for travel expenses and lost time and some miles. Even
though much less than the denied boarding compensation exclusive-or the miles
I demanded, the combined offer amounts for about half of what I asked for.
Now what's really odd-ish is that LH claims that it was a weather related incident
and hence they would not be liable for anything.
Which leaves the two major questions:
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After emailing back and forth, I got a letter from LH offering me some monetary
compensation for travel expenses and lost time and some miles. Even
though much less than the denied boarding compensation exclusive-or the miles
I demanded, the combined offer amounts for about half of what I asked for.
Now what's really odd-ish is that LH claims that it was a weather related incident
and hence they would not be liable for anything.
Which leaves the two major questions:
- if they don't owe me anything why do they offer me miles and cash?
- why did other carriers fly the route if ATC called a halt due to weather?
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Aug 1, 2006, 12:02 pm
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Originally Posted by weero
Back to my good old thread on LH refusing to transport me.
After emailing back and forth, I got a letter from LH offering me some monetary
compensation for travel expenses and lost time and some miles. Even
though much less than the denied boarding compensation exclusive-or the miles
I demanded, the combined offer amounts for about half of what I asked for.
Now what's really odd-ish is that LH claims that it was a weather related incident
and hence they would not be liable for anything.
Which leaves the two major questions: .
After emailing back and forth, I got a letter from LH offering me some monetary
compensation for travel expenses and lost time and some miles. Even
though much less than the denied boarding compensation exclusive-or the miles
I demanded, the combined offer amounts for about half of what I asked for.
Now what's really odd-ish is that LH claims that it was a weather related incident
and hence they would not be liable for anything.
Which leaves the two major questions:
- if they don't owe me anything why do they offer me miles and cash?
- why did other carriers fly the route if ATC called a halt due to weather?
.Not sure what your idea was on compensation but I assume they will tear you up in the air if oyu don't accept..
On the other hand, if oyu asked for the additioanl cost (reimbursement) plus a couple of hundered euros (compensation of time and trouble) and 50K miles (goodwill) then this would be reasonable.
So not sure how far off they are... if it is 75.96 Euros (half the train ticket in 2nd class) and 5k miles I would balk at them ...
Aug 1, 2006, 6:23 pm
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Originally Posted by roundtheworld
..On the other hand, if oyu asked for the additioanl cost (reimbursement) plus a couple of hundered euros (compensation of time and trouble) and 50K miles (goodwill) then this would be reasonable.
So not sure how far off they are... if it is 75.96 Euros (half the train ticket in 2nd class) and 5k miles I would balk at them ...
So not sure how far off they are... if it is 75.96 Euros (half the train ticket in 2nd class) and 5k miles I would balk at them ...
above: I asked for the standard denied boarding compensation for short
haul more than 4 hours late or 50K RDM en lieu of any monetary compensation.
Aug 2, 2006, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by f4free
Weero, are you still fighting?..Would be interested in the final outcome.
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