Longhaul EuroWings will start ops in Winter2015-16
Jul 29, 2020, 1:37 am
#256
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Since SXD has been liquidated the announced LH leisure routes that were supposed to be operated by EW/SXD are now being moved to SN. The first example of this switch appeared this week in the form of FRA-WDH:
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DOEW1278/19SEP *1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO* EW1278 52 SA 19SEP20 APT ARR DY DEP DY CLASS/MEAL EQP GRND EFT TTL FRA 2000 SA JDENAIYCRBM/MR 333 10:20 HQWSGKLTX/MR WDH 0620 SU 10:20 COMMENTS- 1.FRA WDH - AIRCRAFT OWNER BRUSSELS AIRLINES 2.FRA WDH - OPERATED BY BRUSSELS AIRLINES 3.FRA WDH - DEPARTS TERMINAL 1 4.FRA WDH - MCT FLIGHT TRACKING I/I 5.FRA WDH - CHECK-IN LH 6.FRA WDH - 9/ NON-SMOKING 7.FRA WDH - ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE 8.FRA WDH - CO2/PAX* 461.84 KG ECO, 923.69 KG PRE (*):SOURCE:ICAO CARBON EMISSIONS CALCULATOR CONFIGURATION- 333 NO CONFIGURATION SET
Jul 29, 2020, 6:42 am
#257
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Hmm... How does SN operating an A330 from FRA work? Does the crew travel as pax from BRU and overnight in FRA or something?
Also- is there any indication of other current LH “leisure” routes which could transfer to SN or another “leisure” platform?...
Also- is there any indication of other current LH “leisure” routes which could transfer to SN or another “leisure” platform?...
Jul 29, 2020, 8:43 am
#258
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The new leisure platform will be whatever comes of the 'Ocean' project. In the interim they are using SN A330 to operate routes that were supposed to be operated by EW aircraft and SXD crew.
SN already operated some of the routes out of DUS for EW longhaul, so in principle it is possible. A few former LH A330 were transferred to SN's AOC for that specific purpose.
SN already operated some of the routes out of DUS for EW longhaul, so in principle it is possible. A few former LH A330 were transferred to SN's AOC for that specific purpose.
Jul 29, 2020, 9:22 am
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Thank you. Do you anticipate that some mainline LH routes seen more as “leisure” will go over to the new / ocean platform?
Jul 29, 2020, 1:41 pm
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The new leisure platform will be whatever comes of the 'Ocean' project. In the interim they are using SN A330 to operate routes that were supposed to be operated by EW aircraft and SXD crew.
SN already operated some of the routes out of DUS for EW longhaul, so in principle it is possible. A few former LH A330 were transferred to SN's AOC for that specific purpose.
SN already operated some of the routes out of DUS for EW longhaul, so in principle it is possible. A few former LH A330 were transferred to SN's AOC for that specific purpose.
Jul 30, 2020, 1:26 am
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Well, the tax payer is not gifting money to LH, it comes with a hefty interest rate and needs to be repaid. The reason to keep the EW/SXD A330 grounded/stored and use SN metal for such things surely makes economic sense. Most of the EW longhaul routes are usually sold to tour operators in block bookings in direct competition to Condor and tui, which have probably insisted that EW continues to operate select routes. 