Flyertalk/Vielfliegertreff and Lufthansa Dialog 2013 event
Nov 9, 2013, 1:44 pm
#211
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2) You might actually given him an idea: the introduction of the JPLUS fare with a rebooking guarantee.
Nov 11, 2013, 1:29 am
#212
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Nov 11, 2013, 1:29 am
#213
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I heard, that it will introduced during the ITB 2014.
Last edited by peter42; Nov 11, 2013 at 8:10 am
Nov 11, 2013, 7:52 am
#214
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Given what was said at the Dialogue, I couldn't help but search for 'HON Circle' on eBay.de. What a bargain I found, a Rimowa Cabin Trolley (broken) that belong(ed) to a HON Circle, complete with HON luggage tag and HON Priority Tags!!!
This is one cheeky guy or a stupid thief
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This is one cheeky guy or a stupid thief
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Nov 11, 2013, 9:32 am
#215
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Nov 11, 2013, 3:34 pm
#216
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You know, you're going to have to have a trawl through the Air France forum to really know what has been going on. But they have reduced mileage earning to a pitiful level on, I would say, all economy fares. And redemption levels are absurdly high in the premium cabins, hundreds of thousands of miles needed compared to just a handful of years ago. And we're not exactly talking about a great product here, not to mention CDG airport and all its shenanigans. Members claim that having status yields no benefits or perks whatsoever, compared to other programmes.
Nov 11, 2013, 3:38 pm
#217
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With the consequence that I entirely stopped using roaming and switched to prepaid only and mostly use the phone when I get a WiFi hotspot.
I am unwilling to read through all the tricks and traps offered. And as I won't get the flexibility anyway, I rather just not use it that much.
Very much alike airlines. They now provide us with hard incentives not to travel unless unavoidable ...
I am unwilling to read through all the tricks and traps offered. And as I won't get the flexibility anyway, I rather just not use it that much.
Very much alike airlines. They now provide us with hard incentives not to travel unless unavoidable ...
Shame that the airlines have become what they have become. They are responsible for their own demise, in my opinion.
Nov 11, 2013, 10:47 pm
#218
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They unfortunately have the same leverage as the phone companies - like wireless networks, LCCs do not have the complete coverage. If I could fly LCC to Europe and the States, I would not waste time and money on legacies anymore...
Nov 11, 2013, 11:25 pm
#219
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That would be a shame, but not an impossible scenario.
Nov 12, 2013, 3:23 am
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Nov 12, 2013, 3:42 am
#221
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Yep, Mr Huber confirmed that the new seat and service concept will be introduced at the ITB next year. He also told us that it will be completely newly developed seat and not just a plain Y seat with more pitch as already mentioned in this forum some time ago.
Nov 12, 2013, 6:01 am
#222
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The Irony of all this
Lieber Nswat
Sie zählen zu unseren besten Kunden und stehen deshalb für uns an erster Stelle. Exklusiv für Sie haben wir nun First Class Angebote zu Top-Konditionen. Steigen Sie ein und genießen Sie perfekten Komfort – ausgezeichnet mit fünf Sternen in der renommierten Skytrax Rangliste.
Translation
Dear Nswat, you count as one of our best clients and because of that you are in first place for us.....
Gee with 78% travel in cheapo Y fares (ELTS) i Find that email from them hilarious considering how they have told me with their latest enhancements, dear Nswat you are a cheapskate and we don't want you!
Sie zählen zu unseren besten Kunden und stehen deshalb für uns an erster Stelle. Exklusiv für Sie haben wir nun First Class Angebote zu Top-Konditionen. Steigen Sie ein und genießen Sie perfekten Komfort – ausgezeichnet mit fünf Sternen in der renommierten Skytrax Rangliste.
Translation
Dear Nswat, you count as one of our best clients and because of that you are in first place for us.....
Gee with 78% travel in cheapo Y fares (ELTS) i Find that email from them hilarious considering how they have told me with their latest enhancements, dear Nswat you are a cheapskate and we don't want you!
Nov 12, 2013, 6:27 am
#223
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Lieber Nswat
Sie zählen zu unseren besten Kunden und stehen deshalb für uns an erster Stelle. Exklusiv für Sie haben wir nun First Class Angebote zu Top-Konditionen. Steigen Sie ein und genießen Sie perfekten Komfort – ausgezeichnet mit fünf Sternen in der renommierten Skytrax Rangliste.
Translation
Dear Nswat, you count as one of our best clients and because of that you are in first place for us.....
Gee with 78% travel in cheapo Y fares (ELTS) i Find that email from them hilarious considering how they have told me with their latest enhancements, dear Nswat you are a cheapskate and we don't want you!
Sie zählen zu unseren besten Kunden und stehen deshalb für uns an erster Stelle. Exklusiv für Sie haben wir nun First Class Angebote zu Top-Konditionen. Steigen Sie ein und genießen Sie perfekten Komfort – ausgezeichnet mit fünf Sternen in der renommierten Skytrax Rangliste.
Translation
Dear Nswat, you count as one of our best clients and because of that you are in first place for us.....
Gee with 78% travel in cheapo Y fares (ELTS) i Find that email from them hilarious considering how they have told me with their latest enhancements, dear Nswat you are a cheapskate and we don't want you!
I don't have the exact quote, but what was it that Mr. Spohr said? Something like:
'...we want the maximum possible revenue from each passenger, today...'
Nov 12, 2013, 12:46 pm
#224
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If we follow this analogy to it's logical end, then all ground and flight services will eventually be outsourced to a "network operator", and the airlines will become a logo and band name on the front-end of the booking software...with the underlying service virtually undifferentiable...@:-)
That would be a shame, but not an impossible scenario.
That would be a shame, but not an impossible scenario.
QF did this shamelessly with their CI codeshares. All those pax who endured QF's food because they are the safest airline, found themselves on the polar opposite ... and quite a few walked.
LH's push to get the AI nightmare into the *A wasn't all that dissimilar. Imagine if you paid a premium to ride on "clean and safe planes" and ended up on AI metal.
I cannot think of this as very sustainable strategies regarding the brand integrity
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Nov 14, 2013, 1:36 am
#225
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Hmm... back from my trip and disappointed not to read anymore details of the event. Are you guys done with your notes yet? 