Rumour [confirmed]: Major changes to Miles & More
Apr 13, 2012, 3:57 am
#436
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Italy + Switzerland
Programs: BAEC GGL, M&M LT SEN, AZ Plat, WoH LT Glob, HH Diam
Posts: 195
Apr 13, 2012, 4:17 am
#437
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Germany
Programs: Marriott Plat., HHonors gold, IHG Plat., Accor gold, IC Amb, Hertz #1 club, Sixt plat.
Posts: 359
Apr 13, 2012, 4:38 am
#438
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: ZRH / MUC / VIE
Programs: M&M basic / happy Wizzair+ user :-)
Posts: 6,490
These were the reasons why I was looking around for alternatives some months ago, but the letter with the program changes was the official "certificate of divorce" for me.
Without the above-mentioned problems, I assume I would have requalified my status until end of August...
Apr 13, 2012, 5:11 am
#439
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,069
Apr 13, 2012, 5:19 am
#440
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: CH-3823 Wengen Switzerland
Programs: miles&more, MileagePlus
Posts: 27,041
Well, the HON that fly paid first (On longhaule flights) do also profit from HON perks when flying inner European segments - and in add they Profit also when flying and paying (or on awards) themselves (and Family) on holidays and leisure trips.
Apr 13, 2012, 5:36 am
#441
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: VCE
Posts: 14,165
For people that have relatively few departures (not transfers) from Frankfurt the advantage is minimal.
The majority of HON members I know (admittedly a small sample size- not statistically valid) are fed up enough with the numerous changes and the way they have been communicated that they are flying other airlines intentionally.
Apr 13, 2012, 6:51 am
#442
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: JRS
Programs: LH SEN for Life
Posts: 741
Upgrades from Z
Just received the official news of M&L new enhancements.
I understand from 1/9 no upgrades from Z.
Does this include upgrades with e-vouchers???
Are e-vouchers almost worthless now??
It say on Swiss still possible to upgrade from Z with 20,000 miles more - does this include e-vouchers + 20,000?
Maybe I'm glad I don't fly that much anymore and already have Senator for Life - unless they enhance that too.
I understand from 1/9 no upgrades from Z.
Does this include upgrades with e-vouchers???
Are e-vouchers almost worthless now??
It say on Swiss still possible to upgrade from Z with 20,000 miles more - does this include e-vouchers + 20,000?
Maybe I'm glad I don't fly that much anymore and already have Senator for Life - unless they enhance that too.
Apr 13, 2012, 7:06 am
#443
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,069
With the exception of the First Class Terminal when departing from Frankfurt, I don't actually see that many advantages to HON within Europe. The FCT is a major advantage as you can get dropped off 45 minutes prior to flight time without any concerns (which would be impossible in the main terminal).
For people that have relatively few departures (not transfers) from Frankfurt the advantage is minimal.
The majority of HON members I know (admittedly a small sample size- not statistically valid) are fed up enough with the numerous changes and the way they have been communicated that they are flying other airlines intentionally.
For people that have relatively few departures (not transfers) from Frankfurt the advantage is minimal.
The majority of HON members I know (admittedly a small sample size- not statistically valid) are fed up enough with the numerous changes and the way they have been communicated that they are flying other airlines intentionally.
So the main question for LH in regards to your HON friends is wether they are / were F or C paying customers or not.
Apr 13, 2012, 7:08 am
#444
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: VCE
Posts: 14,165
Our colleagues are paying Z/D/C customers for the most part with a few exceptions for A class fares. Full F and J are not good value and thus not possible to justify in 99% of cases.
Apr 13, 2012, 7:52 am
#445
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: SZG
Posts: 3,936
completely agree! i always arrive on an apron position from SZG, the pickup makes it easy to transfer or very quick to get out. on top of that schedule not always works in my favor so i have connection times between 2 and 3 hrs on a regular basis, so its nice to spend this time in a decent place where you can work properly. but the biggest advantage (which thank god still works) is when things go wrong...
Apr 13, 2012, 10:35 am
#447
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: OSL/IAH/ZRH (time, not preference)
Programs: UA1K, LH GM, AA EXP->GM
Posts: 38,265
... while they still get into the FCT/FCL on awards and <F tickets ...
Apr 13, 2012, 11:51 am
#448
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BCN/SIN
Programs: SEN**, Ex TK Elite+, Ex IB Sapphire, Hyatt Gold, Bonvoy, Meliá Platinum
Posts: 650
M&M e-mail reply
I just got an e-mail from M&M stating:
Dear Mr....
#Bla, bla.....all miles for flights are posted on the day of departue....with the valid scheme...no matter when you bought the ticket.#
So confirmed that you will be credited with new miles after 1st September.
Bear in mind if you purchase tickets now!
Dear Mr....
#Bla, bla.....all miles for flights are posted on the day of departue....with the valid scheme...no matter when you bought the ticket.#
So confirmed that you will be credited with new miles after 1st September.
Bear in mind if you purchase tickets now!
Apr 13, 2012, 12:20 pm
#449
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: YYZ
Programs: BA Gold/Marriott Gold/HH Diamond/IC Plat Amba
Posts: 5,992
I just got an e-mail from M&M stating:
Dear Mr....
#Bla, bla.....all miles for flights are posted on the day of departue....with the valid scheme...no matter when you bought the ticket.#
So confirmed that you will be credited with new miles after 1st September.
Bear in mind if you purchase tickets now!
Dear Mr....
#Bla, bla.....all miles for flights are posted on the day of departue....with the valid scheme...no matter when you bought the ticket.#
So confirmed that you will be credited with new miles after 1st September.
Bear in mind if you purchase tickets now!