Meilensammler

please note that this is just a rumour at the moment and not confirmed in any way:

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/...85211038169491

now confirmed, here some details - sorry in german only:

Für den Senator braucht man nur noch 100.000 Statusmeilen.
- Senatoren die dieses Jahr mehr als 300.000 Statusmeilen gesammelt haben bekommen im Rahmen einer Promotion zwei zusätzliche Upgrade Voucher.
- Zum Erreichen des HON-Status gelten nur noch First und Business Class Tickets.
... - Upgrade in die First aus P nicht mehr mit Vouchern oder Meilen möglich, ab 01.09. auch nicht mehr aus der Z-Klasse.
- P-Klasse (Business) gibt nur 500 Meilen innerdeutsch, 750 innerhalb Europas und 100% Entfernungsmeilen interkontinental.
- Z Klasse gibt nur 1.000 Milen innerdeutsch, 1.250 innerhalb Europas und 150% Entfernungsmeilen interkontinental

DUB-FRA

here is the link from M&M: http://www.miles-and-more.com/online...mc_id=MRSSF000

elsie

Senator status only requires 100,000 Status miles.

Earning 300,000 HON Circle miles within two calendar years will in future be rewarded with two eVouchers for upgrades to the next highest service class.

Only First and Business class tickets will be counted towards HON Status.

Upgrade to F from P no longer possible with vouchers or miles.
Starting 01 SEP no upgrade to F from Z.

P=500 Miles German domestic, 750 within Europe, 100%intercontinental

Z=1000 Miles German domestic, 1250 Within Europe, 150% Intercontinental

supermasterphil

Of course the LH website states only the positive stuff....

If I'd be HON and if I'd be doing that in coach (600K status miles), I'd be very pissed to not receive that black card since these guys are really loyal...

Meilensammler

LH will send out the new conditions to all customers starting today. The lower mileage in Business also applies to Swiss (including the Business Saver) and Austrian.

San Gottardo

I went to the news on the M&M portal and couldn't find any such info. In fact there are no news since February 29.

Could it be that at this stage the info is only posted on the German site?

sunseeker

at least it has been published in english:

From this September, Miles & More will be making it easier for frequent flyers from Germany to enjoy exclusive Senator privileges: the number of miles necessary for achieving or maintaining Senator status is to be reduced from the current 130,000 status miles earned within a calendar year to 100,000. This will therefore bring the mileage threshold for Miles & More members living in Germany into line with the worldwide qualification requirement for a golden Miles & More card.
Loyalty promotion for Senators

At the same time Miles & More is thanking frequent-flying Senators this year with a loyalty promotion: earning 300,000 HON Circle miles within two calendar years will in future be rewarded with two eVouchers for upgrades to the next highest service class. The HON Circle miles flown in 2011 are also taken into account in this total.

sunseeker

wrong, it's HON miles only...

InfiniteCycle

And there was me thinking they were going to offer *Gold (not SEN status) at a more reasonable level (say 70,000 with SEN adding in at 100,00) Oh well.

Having been loyal to LH / Star Alliance for 5 years while flying Y, now I have more freedom and premium cabins, so One World is now my choice. LH, you're an average airline, with below average space in European flights, and a below average product on longhaul C (Eco Plus for Bus prices). Oh, and you mess with the programme too much.

TRAVELSIG

Are the other points also correct:
1) No upgrades from Z?
2) HON circle miles only on business/first class fares?

totti

Bummer. As I often make use of Swiss Business Saver, this is quite a pain and a real downgrade

Marcin83

Well, the question is if the changes are retroactive. I mean, I have some LX flights in P in August and than one LH "Z" long-haul booking for August-September. As I made the bookings before the changes have been announced, I hope to accumulate status miles according to the "old" rules.

AFAIK, the FF changes are not a sufficient excuse to cancel the already paid bookings.

MichielR

Good news for me is that I should receive 2 more evouchers having passed the 300k mark already, but the bad news is that I will need to (try to...) spend them before 1 Sep on a Z fare..


Worse news is I just booked a few Z fares after 1 Sep. Expecting them to come in at 200% when I booked but will this expected decrease be applied retrospectively?

SMK77

Both is correct.

elsie

Well I posted when it was still a rumor. I will try to correct it!