Determining LH Y/E/C/F loads? [the help me guesstimate loads thread]
May 1, 2018, 2:52 pm
#1696
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 1
Looking for loads on:
May 3: LH491 SEA-FRA
may 14: LH490 FRA-SEA
Haven’t flown LH in over a decade since they aren’t an AS partner. Didn’t know they had a bidding upgrade program. Too late for 5/3 just curious how packed I will be in economy.
May 3: LH491 SEA-FRA
may 14: LH490 FRA-SEA
Haven’t flown LH in over a decade since they aren’t an AS partner. Didn’t know they had a bidding upgrade program. Too late for 5/3 just curious how packed I will be in economy.
May 2, 2018, 6:00 am
#1697
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,185
Code:
AN03MAYSEAFRA/ALH491
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** FRA FRANKFURT.DE 1 TH 03MAY 0000
1 LH 491 J7 C4 DL ZL G3 EL NL /SEA FRA 1 1350 0835+1E0/744 IR 9:45
Y9 B9 ML UL HL Q9 V9 WL SL
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sm/1/j/v
SM LH 0491/J/03MAYSEAFRA/V
SM LH 0491 J 03MAY SEAFRA 744
A C D E G H K
C 1 + + + + 1 C
2 + + + + 2
3 + + + . 3
4 + . + + + 4
10 C + / . + + C 10
11 + . + + + U U 11
12 . + H . + + . 12
14 + . + . + . . 14
A C D E G H K
A C H K
C 81 UP + . . + UP 81 C
82 + + + + 82
A C H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
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m
SM LH 0491/J/03MAYSEAFRA/V
83 + + + + 83
84 + + . + 84
85 . + + + 85
86 UP + . UP 86
A C H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>
sm/1/e/v
SM LH 0491/E/03MAYSEAFRA/V
SM LH 0491 E 03MAY SEAFRA 744
A C D E F G H K
E 24 < + + + + + + + + > 24 E
25 < + + + + + + + + > 25
26 < + + + + + + + + > 26
27 < + + + + + + + + > 27
A C D E F G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
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sm/1/y/v
SITZPLAN FUER ANGEF. ZONE N. VERF., SITZ KANN ANGEFORDERT WERDEN
Code:
AN14MAYFRASEA/ALH490
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** SEA SEATTLE.USWA 12 MO 14MAY 0000
1 LH 490 J9 C9 D9 Z5 G8 E3 NL /FRA 1 SEA 1045 1155 E0/744 10:10
Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
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sm/1/j/v
SM LH 0490/J/14MAYFRASEA/V
SM LH 0490 J 14MAY FRASEA 744
A C D E G H K
C 1 + + + + 1 C
2 + + + + 2
3 + + + + 3
4 + + + + + 4
10 C I . . . I C 10
11 + + . . . + U 11
12 + + H . . + + 12
14 . . . . . . . 14
A C D E G H K
A C H K
C 81 UP + + + + UP 81 C
82 + + + + 82
A C H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
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>
m
SM LH 0490/J/14MAYFRASEA/V
83 + + + . 83
84 + + . + 84
85 + + + + 85
86 UP . + UP 86
A C H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
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sm/1/e/v
SM LH 0490/E/14MAYFRASEA/V
SM LH 0490 E 14MAY FRASEA 744
A C D E F G H K
E 24 < C + + . . + I C > 24 E
25 < + + + . + + + + > 25
26 < + + + . . H + + > 26
27 < + + + + . + + + > 27
A C D E F G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
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sm/1/y/v
SM LH 0490/Y/14MAYFRASEA/V
SM LH 0490 Y 14MAY FRASEA 744
A B C D E F G H J K
M 29 < L L + + + + + + L + > 29 M
30 < V V V + + V V V + + > 30
31 < + V + V V V > 31
32 <E / / / / E> 32
33 < + V V V V V V V V / > 33
34 < V V V + + V V V + + > 34
35 < V V V + V V V V + + > 35
36 < + Y + Y Y Y H + Y + > 36
37 Y + + + Y Y H + + + 37
38 + Y Y Y Y Y H + Y + 38
39 + Y + + Y + + + + + 39
40 + Y Y + + + + + Y + 40
41 Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y 41
A B C D E F G H J K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
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m
SM LH 0490/Y/14MAYFRASEA/V
42 Y + + U U U U U U + 42
43 C / / + / / + / / + 43
44 / / / / / / / / / / 44
45 / / / / / / / / / / 45
46 / / / / / / / / / / 46
47 / / / / / / / / / / 47
48 + Y + + Y + + Y Y + 48
49 Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y 49
50 Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y 50
51 + + + Y Y Y + + + + 51
52 Y + + Y Y Y Y Y Y Y 52
53 Y + + Y Y Y + Y Y Y 53
54 + + + + + + + + 54
55 Y Y + Y Y + Y Y 55
56 Y Y + Y Y + + + 56
A B C D E F G H J K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
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May 3, 2018, 3:47 am
#1698
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 150
Thanks Oliver for your detailed insights.
I am wondering what your opinion is for LH 462 FRA-MIA on May 19th. EF is showing F1 A0 J9 C9 D1 Z1 P0 G6 E0 N0 Y9 B9 M8 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0.
With Pentecost coming up I assume this flight being really packed with holiday travellers and I am wondering with how many PAX LH will oversell the A380 in such occasions.
I am wondering what your opinion is for LH 462 FRA-MIA on May 19th. EF is showing F1 A0 J9 C9 D1 Z1 P0 G6 E0 N0 Y9 B9 M8 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0.
With Pentecost coming up I assume this flight being really packed with holiday travellers and I am wondering with how many PAX LH will oversell the A380 in such occasions.
May 3, 2018, 5:39 am
#1699
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LH's revenue system knows that before during holidays the no show rate in all classes is rather low and doesn't oversell much as a result.
May 6, 2018, 10:19 pm
#1700
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: DEN
Programs: MP, MM, HH Diamond
Posts: 32
LH Z Space?
Hello,
What's the typical likelihood of additional Z space opening up on a flight within 13 days? Z space was open previously at >T14, however looks like I missed my opportunity and now Z/P are showing as 0 (all other fares show as 9!). There's roughly 27-34 business seats available still per EF/LH websites depending on which you view, excluding blocked seats.
Thanks!
What's the typical likelihood of additional Z space opening up on a flight within 13 days? Z space was open previously at >T14, however looks like I missed my opportunity and now Z/P are showing as 0 (all other fares show as 9!). There's roughly 27-34 business seats available still per EF/LH websites depending on which you view, excluding blocked seats.
J9 C9 D9 Z0 P0 G9 E9 N9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
May 7, 2018, 10:07 am
#1702
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: DEN
Programs: MP, MM, HH Diamond
Posts: 32
Looking back on old posts/old info I can find it looked like there was typically more Z space leading well up to T-3, and with much less J/C/D space, even.
Did some testing.. looks like Z is only available ~15+ days out. Now I shot myself in the foot as I can't do an offered upgrade since I did a paid upgrade for a different leg. Ouch.
Does LH offer upgrades at on-line checkin? Or is the counter the only option at this point?
Last edited by behtyas; May 7, 2018 at 12:26 pm
Jun 5, 2018, 7:15 am
#1705
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SRQ
Programs: UA Plat-Million Miler (1.6MM), IHG-Plat Amb; Amex Plat-P, Marriott-Gold;Hertz Gold; Hilton-Gold
Posts: 762
LH First Class Standby: What now ?
THANKS OLIVER !! I followed the instructions and went to the UA website, LH GPU Upgrade section and entered all my info the site and kept getting error messages directing me to UA Reservations. I am afraid to call them as they will quote the old rules on the UA website and not the new rules implemented by LH. FWIW, I bought an LH Flight, On LH Metal with UA (016) Ticket Stock
Jun 14, 2018, 3:59 pm
#1708
Senior Moderator, Moderator: Community Buzz and Ambassador: Miles & More (Lufthansa, Austrian, Swiss, and other partners)
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Location: 150km from MAN
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J9 C9 D9 Z0 P0 G8 E7 N0 Y9 B8 M1 U0 H0 Q6 V4 W1 S0 T0 L0 K0
LH 435 ORD 06/21/18 9:20 PM MUC 06/22/18 12:55 PM 359 Su,T,W,Th,F,Sa
J5 C4 D2 Z0 P0 G2 E0 N0 Y9 B9 M1 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
Jun 14, 2018, 4:04 pm
#1709
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J9 C0 D0 Z0 P0 G4 E0 N0 Y9 B9 M0 U0 H0 Q9 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
LH 415 IAD 06/20/18 10:30 PM MUC 06/21/18 12:45 PM 333 Daily
J3 C3 D1 Z0 P0 G3 E2 N0 Y9 B8 M2 U2 H4 Q2 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0