Jan 23, 2024, 9:45 am
LAX Terminal Construction and Landside Access Modernization Program
Jul 20, 2024 | 5:45 pm
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APM Train Car Fact Sheet
A total of 44 train cars will be delivered to the APM's Maintenance & Storage Facility, which is the operational hub for the train system. During peak operations(9 a.m. to 11 p.m.), 36 trains will run in four-car sets and arrive every two minutes, with the capacity to move 85 million passengers per year.
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Each train car holds 50 passengers with luggage; 200 per four-car set.
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Each train car holds 50 passengers with luggage; 200 per four-car set.
Jul 22, 2024 | 11:41 am
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LAX APM platforms are designed for 4 car operation.
This train is very commonly used in airports in the US. SFO and DFW both run 2 car per train while SEA and LAS runs 3 cars per train as default configuration (they can add extra cars during peak time). I believe LAX will be the first to run 4 cars as standard configuration in North America.
The only 4 car default operation for Innovia APM that I'm aware of is Taipei Metro Brown line.
This train is very commonly used in airports in the US. SFO and DFW both run 2 car per train while SEA and LAS runs 3 cars per train as default configuration (they can add extra cars during peak time). I believe LAX will be the first to run 4 cars as standard configuration in North America.
The only 4 car default operation for Innovia APM that I'm aware of is Taipei Metro Brown line.
Aug 16, 2024 | 4:04 pm
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City is formally moving forward with throwing more money at the dumpster fire 
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L.A. City approves $400M more for LAX Automated People Mover (audacy.com)
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The Los Angeles City Council voted Friday to increase the total cost of LAX's significant delayed Automated People Mover from $2.9 billion to $3.34 billion to settle legal claims and set a date of operation for January 2026.
Council members voted 12-0 to allocate an additional $400 million for the project -- a recommendation forwarded by the council's Trade, Travel and Tourism Committee and the Los Angeles Board of Airport Commission."
_Council members voted 12-0 to allocate an additional $400 million for the project -- a recommendation forwarded by the council's Trade, Travel and Tourism Committee and the Los Angeles Board of Airport Commission."
L.A. City approves $400M more for LAX Automated People Mover (audacy.com)
Aug 16, 2024 | 9:27 pm
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Aug 19, 2024 | 11:07 am
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I think they have purchased enough train cars to run 4-cars at peak but we will see. This APM line will have extremely high ridership from day 1.
Aug 19, 2024 | 11:50 am
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LAX is probably the airport with the longest passenger operating hours in the US. It's almost silly to separate "peak" vs "non-peak" given the APM needs to serve arriving and departing passengers (it will connect to metro, consolidated rental car, passenger dropoff/pickup, etc.) The only quiet hours at LAX are like 130am to 430am. Their current "peak" cutoff I think starts too late and ends too early.
Aug 19, 2024 | 2:55 pm
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Is there some "explain it like I'm 5" overview of why this tram is almost complete but due to some labor action, we can't use it for another 16 months?
In 16 months, a lot of traffic, noise, and air pollution will be generated. And if this labor dispute is projected to be dealt with by Jan of 2026, why can't we bring that date forward?
I'm sure there are valid reasons, but the bit I know just doesn't add up.
In 16 months, a lot of traffic, noise, and air pollution will be generated. And if this labor dispute is projected to be dealt with by Jan of 2026, why can't we bring that date forward?
I'm sure there are valid reasons, but the bit I know just doesn't add up.
Aug 19, 2024 | 3:16 pm
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Is there some "explain it like I'm 5" overview of why this tram is almost complete but due to some labor action, we can't use it for another 16 months?
In 16 months, a lot of traffic, noise, and air pollution will be generated. And if this labor dispute is projected to be dealt with by Jan of 2026, why can't we bring that date forward?
I'm sure there are valid reasons, but the bit I know just doesn't add up.
In 16 months, a lot of traffic, noise, and air pollution will be generated. And if this labor dispute is projected to be dealt with by Jan of 2026, why can't we bring that date forward?
I'm sure there are valid reasons, but the bit I know just doesn't add up.
Aug 20, 2024 | 2:07 pm
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Is there some "explain it like I'm 5" overview of why this tram is almost complete but due to some labor action, we can't use it for another 16 months?
In 16 months, a lot of traffic, noise, and air pollution will be generated. And if this labor dispute is projected to be dealt with by Jan of 2026, why can't we bring that date forward?
I'm sure there are valid reasons, but the bit I know just doesn't add up.
In 16 months, a lot of traffic, noise, and air pollution will be generated. And if this labor dispute is projected to be dealt with by Jan of 2026, why can't we bring that date forward?
I'm sure there are valid reasons, but the bit I know just doesn't add up.
Work has slowed on the project since 2021, but that's because the APM developer has run out of money, not because of any major disputes between them (or LAWA) and labor.
While labor union demands had some bearing along with lawsuits/liens from contractors, ultimately the project was way overbudget, and the City of Los Angeles had to go through the process of voting to allocate a lot of extra money. The City of Los Angeles Government structure is very bloated and bureaucratic, requiring committee hearings and interim vote approval (Trade, Travel and Tourism Committee plus the Los Angeles Board of Airport Commissions), before it can be formalized by the 15-member City Council. The City back in April expected a $475 million overall budget deficit for the fiscal year starting July 1, 2024. Me thinks the $400 million to finish the tram, probably was not fully baked into the negative $475 million.
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Aug 20, 2024 | 2:31 pm
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Maybe the train will be ready for the next time LA hosts the Olympics.
Aug 20, 2024 | 4:58 pm
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That too -- if you look at the construction webcam on the LAWA website, there are a few spots where the people mover guideway was clearly built out of alignment with the columns. How you mess that up with as many checks and reviews as would happen on a project of this scale is beyond me.
Aug 20, 2024 | 6:34 pm
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That too -- if you look at the construction webcam on the LAWA website, there are a few spots where the people mover guideway was clearly built out of alignment with the columns. How you mess that up with as many checks and reviews as would happen on a project of this scale is beyond me.