Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > Air France, KLM, and Other Partners | Flying Blue > KLM Flying Dutchman
Reload this Page >

Connecting in Amsterdam [AMS] - Consolidated thread of transfer Q&A

Connecting in Amsterdam [AMS] - Consolidated thread of transfer Q&A

    Hide Wikipost
Old Aug 7, 22, 2:28 am   -   Wikipost
Please read: This is a community-maintained wiki post containing the most important information from this thread. You may edit the Wiki once you have been on FT for 90 days and have made 90 posts.
 
Last edit by: irishguy28
Wiki Link
Minimum Connection Times

Standard MCT is 40 minutes for Schengen and 50 minutes for Non-Schengen flights.
Individual airlines/destinations might have raised MCTs though, for example connections from Delta to Schengen KLM raise MCT of 1 hour.
Under no circumstances should self-connecting passengers use these times as a guide for their own travel.


Amsterdam terminals/lounges

Amsterdam Schiphol airport operates on a single terminal concept.

Airside, there are 4 "lounges", Lounge 1 in the Schengen area, lounges 2-3 in Non-Schengen, lounge 4 is Schengen. These Lounges are not airline lounges, they refer to common terminal areas outside the piers. Do not confuse them with VIP lounges, those are signposted as "airline lounges".
Lounge 1 is between piers C and D, lounge 2 between D and E, lounge 3 by pier F, and lastly lounge 4 is connected to Schengen gates M (low-cost pier). Additionally, area between piers E and F is called Holland Boulevard. Keep this in mind as you mind find location references based on these.

All lounges are interconnected and you can pass between them without leaving secure area (the only exception being Schengen low-cost pier, more in Piers section)

Piers and gate numbering

There are 7 piers. Going counterclockwise from south:
  • B pier, Schengen: Used by some KLM Cityhopper flights (bus gates as well as non-jetway positions reachable from the terminal by stairs), Lufthansa Group airlines, LOT and some lowcost airlines.
  • C pier, Schengen:
  • D pier, combined: This pier is capable of handling both Schengen and Non-Schengen flights. Non-Schengen gates are on the main level (plus bus gates on ground level), Schengen gates on top.
  • E pier, non-Schengen:
  • F pier, non-Schengen:
  • G pier, non-Schengen:
  • H/M pier: H/M pier is a low-cost pier used mainly by easyJet. The setup here is a bit unusual: Pier is separated in half lenghtwise. The part closer to the aprons is non-Schengen and is connected to the non-Schengen areas of the airport at the junction of pier G. The part further from the apron is Schengen part (M gates) and is not connected to other parts of the airport, with own security control and a small shopping/F&B area. The gates are on the ground level, with the stairs to them in the middle between Schengen and non-Schengen walkways, accessible from either side as needed. Aircraft are reached by walking from the gate to the airplane directly in front.

Transfer security

Transfer security is not needed when connecting from Schengen to either Schengen or non-Schengen destinations (except in case of self connect with baggage pickup, or self-connect to Schengen low-cost pier).
In case of connecting from non-Schengen to either Schengen or non-Schengen, transfer security is required, unless coming from following secure arrival countries:
Non-Schengen EU
(Croatia, Romania, Ireland etc.), United Kingdom, United States, Canada, Singapore (important: does not apply to flights via Denpasar, only direct non-stop flights!)
All other must pass through transfer security

Passport control

There is central transfer passport control location just off the level of pier D.
e-Gates are available, but not always turned on.

Holders of select non-EU biometric passports can also use these e-Gates, in particular when leaving Schengen.


Airline/VIP lounges

Following lounges are available in AMS:

Schengen:
Privium Club Lounge (landside) - between Departures 1 and 2 on check-in level. To the left of entrance of Departures 1 security. Only accessible to Privium holders.
Privium Express Lounge (airside) - one level above departures, next to entrance to D pier (by former entrance to terrace). Only open until 1pm. Only accessible to Privium holders.
KLM Crown Lounge 25 - one level above departures, on level of D pier (above passport control) away from apron. Caters to SkyTeam and select partners.
Aspire A26 Lounge - two levels above departures (level of Panorama terrace), accessible via area by D pier above passport control. Accessible with Priority Pass and other buy-in providers.
StarAlliance Lounge (A27) - two levels above departures (level of Panorama terrace) - next to A26, accessible via area by D pier above passport control. Caters to StarAlliance. Reportedly re-opened as of 1 August; if incorrect, eligible pax can use A26 immediately next door instead

Non-Schengen:
Privium Club Lounge West (airside) - main departure level, Holland Boulevard (between E and F), side away from apron. Behind restaurant Dutch Kitchen. Only accessible to Privium holders and passengers of Singapore airlines.
KLM Crown Lounge 52 - main departure level, Holland Boulevard, closer to pier F. Escalators or elevators will take you to reception one level up. Caters to SkyTeam and select partners.
Aspire A41 Lounge - two levels above Lounge 2 (close to D pier). Access next to Frames restaurant. Accessible with Priority Pass and other buy-in providers.
British Airways Lounge - two levels above Lounge 2 (close to D pier). Access next to Frames restaurant. Permanently closed; pax can use A41 instead.

Baggage

If you are connecting through Schiphol on one Skyteam itinerary, your bags will be checked through to your final destination, regardless of how long the layover is.

If you are connecting through Schiphol on separate itineraries (a.k.a "self-connecting") and the two airlines do not have an interline agreement, then you will need to recheck your bags. You will need to pick up your bags, go landside, check them again, and re-enter through security.
Print Wikipost

Old Jul 12, 22, 10:35 am
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: ST E+, *G, some hotel gold...
Posts: 4,524
Connecting in Amsterdam [AMS] - Consolidated thread of transfer Q&A

I am creating this thread to provide a single space to gather information about connecting in Amsterdam Schiphol Airport.

Hopefully, we can create a repository of general knowledge and best practices in form of a wiki post and create space to ask individual questions within a single thread.


Please feel free to add to the wiki. What I am collecting here is just the first draft so far.
Fabo.sk is online now  
Old Jul 12, 22, 10:39 am
  #2  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: ST E+, *G, some hotel gold...
Posts: 4,524
Frequently Asked Questions - and Answers to them
  1. Can I go to Amsterdam during my long transfer?
    • In principle, yes. Amsterdam city is close to the airport and well connected. Keep in mind that Schiphol is currently understaffed and you need to get back to the airport a lot sooner then normal. (see Mess in Amsterdam thread for refrence)
    • The easiest way to reach central Amsterdam is by train. There are trains leaving Schiphol to Amsterdam and vice versa every 10 minutes or even less, the trip to Centraal takes about 15 minutes.
    • Return ticket to Amsterdam Centraal costs 9,20. You can buy it online and use QR code on your phone, print it or you can buy a ticket in the blue and yellow machines in the baggage hall or in the train station area. Note that buying a paper ticket in the machine carries a surcharge of 1 EUR per ticket. You can also get a 10% discount for off-peak ticket if you book 4 days in advance
    • Towards Amsterdam, look for departures to Amsterdam Centraal only. There are trains in other directions that pass through Amsterdam Zuid, but all trains to Centraal terminate there.
    • From Amsterdam back to the airport, look for Sprinters to Hoofddorp or Den Haag Centraal, or Intercity Direct to Rotterdam, Breda or Brussels. Imporant: Do not take regular Intercity to Rotterdam! These trains go through Haarlem and Hemstede-Aardenhout to Leiden, not via the airport. (A good rule of thumb, at least until new generation trains start running - does it have locomotives at end and regular carriages? Then it's an ICD and it goes through the airport. Is it a unit, either double decker, or with those funny cabs on top at the end? Then it's a regular IC, these do not run to the airport from Centraal.)
  2. I have a self-connecting transfer. Will I have to leave airside and go landside? What if I don't have any checked luggage?
    • If you have checked luggage, you will have to go landside. It is not possible to re-check baggage in the baggage claim area, and it is not possible to enter airside from baggage claim either.
    • If you don't have checked luggage, you can carry on to your departure gate. In case of Schengen and Secure Non-Schengen arrivals (see Wiki), there is no security check either. There are also transfer desks in the airside, where you can usually obtain a BP for your connecting flight.
    • The exception is self-connection to M gates, used by easyJet and Ryanair. To reach M pier, you do have to leave the secure area.




Reserved for FAQ summary (1)

Last edited by Fabo.sk; Jul 17, 22 at 8:31 am
Fabo.sk is online now  
Old Jul 12, 22, 10:39 am
  #3  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: ST E+, *G, some hotel gold...
Posts: 4,524
Reserved for FAQ summary (2)
Fabo.sk is online now  
Old Jul 12, 22, 10:45 am
  #4  
 
Join Date: May 2021
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum, Ex-skywards Platnium
Posts: 449
Great work with this! Hopefully this will stop new threads regarding transfers at AMS from spawning on a daily basis.
physicsdude is online now  
Old Jul 12, 22, 2:38 pm
  #5  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,335
Data point

CPH-AMS-LIS yesterday, Monday.

Intra-Schengen, so no AMS issues or obstacles whatsoever, as was to be expected. Even KLM put its best foot forward, both flights on schedule.

So to state the obvious, for intra-Schengen transfer pax the Schiphol crisis might as well not exist. As long as the airlines do their bit (far from a given these days), it should be business as usual.

Johan
johan rebel is offline  
Old Jul 12, 22, 3:09 pm
  #6  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: ST E+, *G, some hotel gold...
Posts: 4,524
Suggest FAQs please.

1. Can I go to Amsterdam during my long transfer?
I definitely will be including this one. I do want to check if the ticket machines in the baggage hall can give out paper tickets first though.
Fabo.sk is online now  
Old Jul 13, 22, 8:08 am
  #7  
 
Join Date: May 2021
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum, Ex-skywards Platnium
Posts: 449
A FAQ to add.

2. I have a self-connecting transfer. Will I have to leave airside and go landside? What if I don't have any checked luggage?
physicsdude is online now  
Old Jul 13, 22, 11:19 am
  #8  
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 634
nvm, read the wiki
Fabo.sk and b12e like this.
hhdl is online now  
Old Jul 16, 22, 2:08 pm
  #9  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: ST E+, *G, some hotel gold...
Posts: 4,524
I added a summary on how to travel by train to Centraal.

Please let me know if I have made any mistake or you would like me to add anything.
Fabo.sk is online now  
Old Jul 17, 22, 8:23 am
  #10  
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: EU
Programs: FB Plat, All Accor Silver
Posts: 359
Originally Posted by Fabo.sk View Post
I added a summary on how to travel by train to Centraal.

Please let me know if I have made any mistake or you would like me to add anything.
it you buy the ticket in advance via the app; it's 4.23 single, so 8.46 return.
b12e is offline  
Old Jul 17, 22, 8:33 am
  #11  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: ST E+, *G, some hotel gold...
Posts: 4,524
Thanks, I did not know that.

I have added now to the FAQ section.
b12e likes this.
Fabo.sk is online now  
Old Jul 19, 22, 8:03 am
  #12  
 
Join Date: May 2021
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum, Ex-skywards Platnium
Posts: 449
Updated the wiki with questions regarding baggage when transferring at Schiphol
Fabo.sk, hhdl and b12e like this.
physicsdude is online now  
Old Aug 7, 22, 10:35 am
  #13  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX/SFO
Programs: AA EXP; AS 75K; WN A List; UA 1K 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott AMB; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 51,620
Question for a family member flying this week. For a non-Schengen to non-Schengen transfer (SFO-AMS-INV), is there any security or passport check? Thanks!
Kacee is offline  
Old Aug 7, 22, 10:50 am
  #14  
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: EU
Programs: FB Plat, All Accor Silver
Posts: 359
Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
Question for a family member flying this week. For a non-Schengen to non-Schengen transfer (SFO-AMS-INV), is there any security or passport check? Thanks!
a third of this FAQ is dedicated to this question. I'd recommend to read it, it's very good!
jerry_greece and irishguy28 like this.
b12e is offline  
Old Aug 7, 22, 12:03 pm
  #15  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX/SFO
Programs: AA EXP; AS 75K; WN A List; UA 1K 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott AMB; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 51,620
Originally Posted by b12e View Post
a third of this FAQ is dedicated to this question. I'd recommend to read it, it's very good!
I read the entire thread before posting. The question of passport check non-Schengen to non-Schengen is not addressed. There is a generic statement about no security for US arrivals, but it would be helpful to have that confirmed as well.
Kacee is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread