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Originally Posted by Mirk
(Post 28233690)
It would be back in control quickly if they started doing the security screening properly and not send 60% of the bags to secondary
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Originally Posted by johan rebel
(Post 28233622)
No, it is just a pathological case of denial.
In an article in the latest issue of Zakenreis, Schiphol brags about its state-of-the-art flow management: "Soepele passagiersstromen dankzij gebruik van beacons" The airport has installed 2,000 beacons that register pax movements throughout the airport in realtime. "Passagiers moeten in een soepele flow vanuit de vertrekhal hun gate kunnen bereiken. Dat noemt Schiphol een no-queue-policy." Seriously, I'm not making this up, Schiphol prides itself on its sophisticated no queue policy, which is designed to ensure that pax will have sufficient time to go shopping and have a cup of coffee. "Met het voorspellend vermogen van de wachtrijen zijn we heel ver, met een bandbreedte van een paar minuten." OK, that's about as bizarre as it gets! The airport claims it can predict waiting times with an acccuracy of a few minutes. Johan |
Is the current situation only a result of the enormous increase in passenger volumes? I cannot help thinking the old situation where security was done at the gates for non-Schengen flights was better.
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Originally Posted by SchmeckFlyer
(Post 28235261)
I cannot help thinking the old situation where security was done at the gates for non-Schengen flights was better.
The problem has IMO much deeper routes than the structural organization of security checks. I spend a lot of time queuing at immigration and security while transiting into Schengen, because they simply didn't man enough booths and security lines. The solution is to throw money at the problem (more staff; more scanners) and making scanning more efficient. Queues are always going to be long during peak hours, but the point is to keep them moving. |
[QUOTE=WorldLux;28235459]and making scanning more efficient.QUOTE]
I think that would already improve things a lot. As has been pointed out by others in the thread, the weird cable scanning rule and the almost systematic second scan of luggage play a big role in the mayhem. There's always something when I go through Security at AMS, whilst with the very same baggage at other airports things run very smoothly. |
Originally Posted by SchmeckFlyer
(Post 28235261)
I cannot help thinking the old situation where security was done at the gates for non-Schengen flights was better.
As long as priority was properly enforced by the airline, the waiting time was never longer than a minute or two. Johan |
Check in time at AMS.
I will be on the 08.30 flight from AMS to SOU next Monday with luggage to be checked. Seeing all the comments about long lines etc., what time would you advise that I arrive at the airport ? Are there any separate lines for Platinum Lifers ? Can I check in baggage the night before ? Thanks.
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You can check in from 3 hours before your flight. There is of course SkyPriority, but nothing separate for Platinum members.
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Government is getting involved and is planning a meeting with Schiphol and KLM. Source: http://www.nu.nl/reizen/4655211/schi...uchthaven.html
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Originally Posted by Another user name to remember
(Post 28241681)
Government is getting involved and is planning a meeting with Schiphol and KLM. Source: http://www.nu.nl/reizen/4655211/schi...uchthaven.html
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Good, even more people that can send bags to secondary. Never mind an internal review on what causes the delays -- just hire more people. The solution to everything.
Why does Schiphol even deem it necessary to contract three security companies? Can't they develop an in-house security team? Absurd. |
You would also think Schiphol has an inherent interest in making sure passengers get through check-in, security and passport check as quickly as possible. The longer people wait in the queue, the less time they have to empty their wallets in the shops.
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Schiphol is evaluating whether to open all lanes more frequently. Really smart and innovative :rolleyes: . They further blame the queues on the fact that the predictions are not always accurate.
Apparently, per lane 5 security staff are deployed, and increasing this number is not possible. |
Friend flew to a Schengen destination this morning with HV (0715ish departure). With luggage drop off, it took him 2,5 hrs to clear the whole process. Very frustrating experience. I told the travel management company to only book KL flights for me the coming weeks, to make sure I have priority access and somewhat of a chance on a comfortable experience...
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