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johan rebel Apr 22, 2017 11:11 am

From the latest Privium newsletter:

"In the weeks to come, a number of security filters will be undergoing renovation works to optimise the passenger flows at Schiphol. Find out how that might affect your journey.

The renovation of security filters may affect your journey in the following ways:

1.The transfer filter is to be renovated in the final weeks of April. The filter will stay open and the Privium gate will be relocated from the left to the right-hand side of the filter.


2.In the weeks to come, the arrivals filter under the E-pier will be closed for renovation. The other arrival filters will be opertional in the meantime.
"

Johan

wijnands Apr 22, 2017 1:33 pm

Media says 2 more days of hell on Schiphol. We'll see.

caliform Apr 22, 2017 2:35 pm

It'll be far more than that. It's a long holiday season until the end of summer.

Oh, by the way, Privium did not get to skip the line Friday.

WorldLux Apr 22, 2017 3:22 pm


Originally Posted by caliform (Post 28215956)
It'll be far more than that. It's a long holiday season until the end of summer.

The first wave is over. I expect that next weekend will be similar (maybe slightly less crowded. If they don't fix this by July, 3 hours will probably be very optimistic and I would expect that transit security and immigration will be probably be crowded as well.

johan rebel Apr 23, 2017 12:33 am


Originally Posted by WorldLux (Post 28216131)
The first wave is over.

Schiphol is expecting more pax today and tomorrow than yesterday, Saturday.

KL says that so far an average of 60 pax a day have missed their flight, they expect this to rise to 100. This despite delaying more than 55 flights on Saturday to wait for pax stuck in security.

The airline expects that the whole summer will be just as bad.

Source: Trouw.nl

Johan

SchmeckFlyer Apr 23, 2017 3:10 pm

The central government is going to spend an extra €20 million for additional marecheussee (gendarmerie) at Schiphol, which equates to about 500 extra officers. Not sure if that means more officers manning passport control or more officers protecting the airport as it becomes busier.

Apparently there are also tests ongoing using "3D security scanners" that will eliminate the need to take liquids, laptops, cables and so forth out of hand luggage (theoretically speeding up the whole security process).

btonkid12345 Apr 23, 2017 4:03 pm


Originally Posted by caliform (Post 28209425)
Spoke to several people in line with me at Departures 2 Priority who had flights leaving soon. Personnel wouldn't budge. Total communication meltdown. Found them later in the lounge with missed flights.

Someone's going to have to answer over this. I've never seen it break down this badly and it's not even Summer yet.

A British man in a suit (sans tie) walked past the less than 10 person line at 9:21 a.m. Monday morning, claiming he has a 9:40 a.m. flight.

Me and my friend were a few people in front of him, and we had a 9:50 a.m. flight and weren't saying anything. He physically pushed his way past passengers, did not ask if anyone was OK with it, and when the employee manning the line called his Supervisor over, the Supervisor deescalated and let him cut everyone. Ugh.

He dropped a few F bombs in there at everyone and was just a total d!ck. If it were a US airport I would have relished being seen him taken away (civilly) because he decided to swear at and assault employees manning the line, just because his travel plans are more important than everyone else's.


Originally Posted by caliform (Post 28212507)
I really am not aware of any other security check that sends anything to secondary inspection when it has a single cable in it.

I spoke calmly with the Supervisor about the above incident. He offered to have us cut everyone else, too, but I declined.

The wait to go through the detectors was not the bad part. The bad part was more than half of the PRIORITY bags were being sent for secondary inspection. And the geniuses manning that process were scanning every pulled back an extra 2-3 times.

This is despite me pulling out all of my cables on the first push through. They re-scanned empty sunglasses cases. Guess what the culprit was, after all the security theater? A pack of Kleenex wipes that the agent claimed looked like a liquid. ?!?!

Got to the gate at 9:40 for the 9:50 flight, and luckily 1/3 of the plane was still boarding. But man, the entitled travelers and the nonsensical security process - priority or otherwise - is a major detractor for AMS-originating travel.

Xandrios Apr 24, 2017 12:07 am


Originally Posted by btonkid12345 (Post 28220059)
Guess what the culprit was, after all the security theater? A pack of Kleenex wipes that the agent claimed looked like a liquid. ?!?!

Whenever I am given extra packaged wipes (the scented ones that they give out in business) I put them in my bag as they always come in handy when travelling. With 1-2 of those in my bag I have no issues at Schiphol. With more, they always have to re-scan because it has some kind of red flag. Ridiculous.

Recently I had my iPad and rolled up coat in one tray. Absolutely nothing in the coat pockets. It went to secondary. They ask you to remove iPads from the luggage, but if it then still goes to secondary - why even bother? Maybe next time ill just dump everything in one tray and accept that they are going to do a secondary screening?!

Ditto Apr 24, 2017 12:23 am


Originally Posted by Xandrios (Post 28221301)
Recently I had my iPad and rolled up coat in one tray. Absolutely nothing in the coat pockets. It went to secondary. They ask you to remove iPads from the luggage, but if it then still goes to secondary - why even bother? Maybe next time ill just dump everything in one tray and accept that they are going to do a secondary screening?!

I only take my laptop and e-reader our of the bag, the rest (cables, keyboard etc.) remains inside, in Schiphol something will go to secondary no matter how hard I try which is why I don't bother anymore, in all other airports I never have an issue and my bag sails right through...

johan rebel Apr 24, 2017 1:21 am


Originally Posted by SchmeckFlyer (Post 28219901)
The central government is going to spend an extra €20 million for additional marecheussee (gendarmerie) at Schiphol, which equates to about 500 extra officers.

Maybe, but these officers cannot be bought off the shelf and warmed in a microwave oven.

Recruiting and training will take years.

Johan

johan rebel Apr 24, 2017 1:23 am


Originally Posted by Ditto (Post 28221342)
I only take my laptop and e-reader our of the bag, the rest (cables, keyboard etc.) remains inside, in Schiphol something will go to secondary no matter how hard I try which is why I don't bother anymore, in all other airports I never have an issue and my bag sails right through...

Trust me, you are not the only one!

Schiphol security sucks to the power of ten.

Johan

KLflyerRalph Apr 24, 2017 1:47 am

I am trying to gather more data about the nature and causes of the long waiting time. If you have flown through Schiphol since April 2017, would you please fill in this survey. Feel free to share with fellow travellers.

If you have any remarks about the survey, feel free to send my a PM!

mfkne Apr 24, 2017 6:05 am


Originally Posted by Ditto (Post 28221342)
the rest (cables, keyboard etc.) remains inside

Back in March at the priority lane for non-Schengen I was shouted at to take all cables out. They change their rules on the fly.

Ditto Apr 24, 2017 6:46 am


Originally Posted by mfkne (Post 28222104)
Back in March at the priority lane for non-Schengen I was shouted at to take all cables out. They change their rules on the fly.

I have all my cables in a small skyteam amenities bag, so I used to take that bag outside of my backpack and put it on the same tray with my laptop, there was about 50% chance of that tray going to secondary, so I figured there is no point in taking it out of the backpack to begin with...

caliform Apr 24, 2017 9:13 am

Yup, the 'cables out of the bag' policy changes on the fly. I am at times just throwing the bag on, knowing that even with all my work removing electronics it'll go to secondary. It saves time overall...


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