The ultimate thread on buy-ups at OLCI
#2012
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: GOT
Programs: KL Plat
Posts: 484
"You can redeem max. 2 vouchers per passenger and max. 3 vouchers per booking."
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KL1318 BOD-AMS 8/8 avail. 494 SEK
KL1163 AMS-GOT 8/8 avail. 494 SEK
#2013
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,352
I suspect that they only reason that KL still offers J class on shorthaul routes is that they can't stuff their connecting longhaul J pax in coach. If it weren't for that, shorthaul J would have been gone long ago.
Johan
Johan
#2014
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: GOT
Programs: KL Plat
Posts: 484
I agree, but why not move the curtain forward a little to create a few more rows EC on these? Looking again now the E75 KL1318 does have the typical 2 rows min EBC (still all empty). Made a mistake with KL1163. That's actually 16/16 free. They moved the curtain forward just one row on that on Wednesday, currently 7/12 free in EC.
#2015
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: DUS, BRU, POA
Programs: Skyteam E+ (FB PfL), Latam Black, LH MM, Iberia plus, HH: Diamond, Marriott Bonvoy: Plat
Posts: 1,124
#2016
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,352
The curtain is not always moved forward if loads in J are light. If there's no shortage of seats in coach, they might as well save themselves the effort and let the pax in J spread out. I've seen four or five rows of J with only one or two pax.
Johan
#2017
Join Date: Dec 2017
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum
Posts: 223
Got the chance to upgrade to business when I did OLCI this morning from Moscow to Amsterdam tomorrow morning (KLM flight). Now sitting in row one for a cost of approx 6,800 Rouble (approx £85). I took the offer as I have very tight connection onwards to ABZ and there is often extra security checking passports when coming off the flight in AMS.
#2018
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: GOT
Programs: KL Plat
Posts: 484
On 737s the minimum number of J rows is two. The curtain can simply not be moved further forward. Not sure about the Embraers, but it is probably the same there.
The curtain is not always moved forward if loads in J are light. If there's no shortage of seats in coach, they might as well save themselves the effort and let the pax in J spread out. I've seen four or five rows of J with only one or two pax.
Johan
The curtain is not always moved forward if loads in J are light. If there's no shortage of seats in coach, they might as well save themselves the effort and let the pax in J spread out. I've seen four or five rows of J with only one or two pax.
Johan
Tip - if you want to upgrade you and your family to EC for free, bring a painting! Cabin crew were a bit bemused what to do with it, so invited the parents & 2 kids up to the front to look after it themselves in plenty of space
On KL1163 the purser was hunting out Plats in the cabin to offer them rows in the empty 'J' section after departure, a nice gesture.
#2019
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 8,057
On 737s the minimum number of J rows is two. The curtain can simply not be moved further forward. Not sure about the Embraers, but it is probably the same there.
The curtain is not always moved forward if loads in J are light. If there's no shortage of seats in coach, they might as well save themselves the effort and let the pax in J spread out. I've seen four or five rows of J with only one or two pax.
Johan
The curtain is not always moved forward if loads in J are light. If there's no shortage of seats in coach, they might as well save themselves the effort and let the pax in J spread out. I've seen four or five rows of J with only one or two pax.
Johan
In some times I expect there can be a lot more assymetrical demand (i.e. connecting out after a wave of incoming longhauls, while flying back in a rather unpopular middle-of-the-day slot)
#2022
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Netherlands
Programs: Flying Blue Gold
Posts: 288