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Old Sep 14, 2017, 4:25 am
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The components were present in all iPhones but the Felica hardware was only activated in Japanese phones based on the Japanese phone / watches part number.

They could probably turn it on for everyone with a firmware update but probably won't for iPhone 7 series.
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Old Sep 14, 2017, 12:22 pm
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Can you help me with this a bit.

So, for example, does this mean that I can download the Suica app, load the card via Apple pay, and then use it, for example, to buy a ticket on the Narita Express without having to go to a ticket window?

Apologies if the compound question had off-topic elements.

Many thanks.
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Old Sep 14, 2017, 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerwma
Can you help me with this a bit.

So, for example, does this mean that I can download the Suica app, load the card via Apple pay, and then use it, for example, to buy a ticket on the Narita Express without having to go to a ticket window?

Apologies if the compound question had off-topic elements.

Many thanks.
Narita Express is an all-reserved train service. Suica doesn't help, you need a seat reservation.
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Old Sep 14, 2017, 7:48 pm
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But to continue that answer it means you would be able to use it on any other train which did take a suica. My understanding is that this means you would need an older iphone which supports wallet (a 6S for example), an Apple Watch 3 purchased anywhere in the world and an existing suica (to load) and then this will work in Japan.
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Old Sep 15, 2017, 12:30 am
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The Suica app does not require an existing Suica Card.

You can get either a unregistered or registered one through the app by itself.

Also the Suica app does have the ability to load special tickets - you have to use the app for it. Not sure about the NEX.

There is talk of Suica enabled Shinkansen tickets coming this fall.
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Old Sep 15, 2017, 12:31 am
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Originally Posted by mrploddy
The Suica app does not require an existing Suica Card.

You can get either a unregistered or registered one through the app by itself.

Also the Suica app does have the ability to load special tickets - you have to use the app for it. Not sure about the NEX.

There is talk of Suica enabled Shinkansen tickets coming this fall.
I should point out that the app is in Japanese so you need someone who speaks / reads Japanese to do complicated stuff.

Most people on this forum seem to be able to issue bog standard unregistered cards without any knowledge of Japanese.
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Old Sep 15, 2017, 12:47 am
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You can use the Suica to pay for the physical Nex ticket at the automated booth but it won't be a digital ticket.
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Old Sep 15, 2017, 12:49 am
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Originally Posted by mrploddy
There is talk of Suica enabled Shinkansen tickets coming this fall.
I think you can already use the Mobile SUICA app to ride Shinkansen, as these YouTube video demonstrate:

NEX requires the extra fare class (特急券 / グリーン券) just like Shinkansen, and the app clearly shows the ability to purchase them from the videos, so in theory it should be possible, but I guess unless someone tries we won't know for sure.

I wonder if they will eventually allow people using JR Pass to convert paper tickets to mobile ones or have a mobile JR Pass, as that would be great!
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 1:04 am
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Originally Posted by mrploddy
The Suica app does not require an existing Suica Card.

You can get either a unregistered or registered one through the app by itself.

Also the Suica app does have the ability to load special tickets - you have to use the app for it. Not sure about the NEX.

There is talk of Suica enabled Shinkansen tickets coming this fall.
Thats great to know, thanks
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 1:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Aventine
You can use the Suica to pay for the physical Nex ticket at the automated booth but it won't be a digital ticket.
For those thinking about picking up an Apple Watch Series 3 to pair with an older iPhone- the LTE model only has LTE in the country of purchase. You'd probably want to avoid purchasing a Japan iWatch Series 3 LTE if using it mostly outside Japan (also, I'm guessing you'd probably need a Japan residence card for a device cellular contract) https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/15...e-limitations/
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Old Sep 19, 2017, 3:25 am
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Originally Posted by freecia
For those thinking about picking up an Apple Watch Series 3 to pair with an older iPhone- the LTE model only has LTE in the country of purchase. You'd probably want to avoid purchasing a Japan iWatch Series 3 LTE if using it mostly outside Japan (also, I'm guessing you'd probably need a Japan residence card for a device cellular contract) https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/15...e-limitations/
OK interesting data point. Reading the thread it appears to be because Apple is using a Voice over LTE standard which is not yet internationally standardized hence the roaming issues.

And yes absolutely no chance of getting a cellular contract in Japan unless you've got a visa / residence card and a fixed address in Japan.

Docomo for example is doing 6 months free then charging 500 yen to add it to your existing iPhone contract from next year.
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 11:20 am
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Does anyone tech-savvy know if the Suica app for IOS is 64bit or 32bit? This will become important for anyone planning to upgrade to ios11.
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 12:34 pm
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Does anyone tech-savvy know if the Suica app for IOS is 64bit or 32bit? This will become important for anyone planning to upgrade to ios11.
64bit. If you go to Settings>General>About>Applications, it will list all incompatible installed apps. Suica is not one of those listed on mine.
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by rustykettel
64bit. If you go to Settings>General>About>Applications, it will list all incompatible installed apps. Suica is not one of those listed on mine.
I can't even get a anything to show up at all under >Applications on my Japanese iPhone - there is no option to click it and see more detail
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 1:04 pm
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I can't even get a anything to show up at all under >Applications on my Japanese iPhone - there is no option to click it and see more detail
It just displays a list of incompatible apps. If there's nothing listed, then none of your apps are incompatible 32 bit versions. ^
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